Just got done watching the replay of the Dallas Game

[RugbyMuffin]

It is still the best game of the season.

Stupid Cowboys, how many times do you have to hand them breaks, and the game in a whole to have them win ?

What an arse whoopin' we put on Romo.

Fitzgerald's side line catch was the sickest catch of the season IMO. That was ridiculous.

 

[PJ1]

I watched it also and the thing that really impressed me the most was the game that Steve Breaston had.

He really was clutch and tough as nails in this game. He is a great story and his best is ahead of him in my opinion.

 

[PoolBoy]

does anyone know of a website where you can just watch games on-demand for free?

 

[Duckjake]

I think the game is on again at 10AM Central time Tomorrow (monday).

 

[lauraw]

I like troy aikman as an announcer and he had some positive things to say about our defense in this one; I've seen it maybe 4-5 times now and aikman was complimentary especially to Dockett if I remember correc tly.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

I like troy aikman as an announcer and he had some positive things to say about our defense in this one; I've seen it maybe 4-5 times now and aikman was complimentary especially to Dockett if I remember correc tly.

IIRC, there was a whole thread on how biased Aikman was during this game.


From what I remember, he was pretty fair.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

IIRC, there was a whole thread on how biased Aikman was during this game.


From what I remember, he was pretty fair.

Watched it again last night......fair?

LOL. OK, whatever. I guess I was watching a different game then Aikman.

It is a good thing the Cardinals had a "chance" to win that day.

 

[lauraw]

Aikman also said SLO-mo got beat up by the Cards defense worse than any game he could ever remember seeing. He stated at the beginning of the game that the CowTurds would have the Cards in trouble if they could run. they never did. they got the long pass play to Barber, but that's about it. I'm listening to the game right now as i write this and the early fumble by slomo both Aikman and dick stockton is it? said the 'turds got a break by the play being whistled dead. Troy also said the Cards defensive front was whipping the turds offensive front, as slomo fumbled it right back to the Cards.

 

[lauraw]

aikman gave the Cards defense lots of credit for being more physical than the Dallas offense front with 6:30orso left in the first quarter, and said later that this Cardinal defense pounded slomo worse than in any game in Aikman's memory. "He's been knocked to the ground more than all the games combined this year."
I think Aikman is fair, he just knows alot more about the Dallas cowpies than any other team.what would any of us expect? We tried to give that game away, Ill agree with you RugbyMuffin! Maybe I'm biased because I think troy's a cutie.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

aikman gave the Cards defense lots of credit for being more physical than the Dallas offense front with 6:30orso left in the first quarter, and said later that this Cardinal defense pounded slomo worse than in any game in Aikman's memory. "He's been knocked to the ground more than all the games combined this year."
I think Aikman is fair, he just knows alot more about the Dallas cowpies than any other team.what would any of us expect? We tried to give that game away, Ill agree with you RugbyMuffin! Maybe I'm biased because I think troy's a cutie.

Fair enough.

Sometimes I think Jessica Simpson can sing even though I haven't heard a note sang.

 

[Brighteyes]

MY two cents -

Only watched first quarter so far (we'll watch rest in next few days) but it sure showed some bias on the officials. Larry interfered with -- no call. Romo clearly fumbles -- some phantom whistle was sounded. I'll keep counting as the game goes on.

What I wonder is this: Now that we've been to the Super Bowl, will we start to get better calls?

 

[blindseyed]

MY two cents -

Only watched first quarter so far (we'll watch rest in next few days) but it sure showed some bias on the officials. Larry interfered with -- no call. Romo clearly fumbles -- some phantom whistle was sounded. I'll keep counting as the game goes on.

What I wonder is this: Now that we've been to the Super Bowl, will we start to get better calls?

No lol
I watched and loved it again. My favorite, watching TO shut up, pouting on the bench by himself cuz his team sucked and lost and seeing that dancing idiot Wade Philli;s standing there like a fat kid who just had his ice cream stolen. Loved it!

 

[JeffGollin]

Watched it. Was reminded of a really disturbing pattern the Cardinals fell victim to prior to the playoffs:

At least a couple of times a game, we'd do something really dumb that would reverse the "mo" &/or cost us cheap TD's.

Specific to the Dallas game, there was (a) the run down the left sideline by Barber and (b) the blown coverage that left Miles (?) uncovered in the middle of the field against a soft zone.

Although one was on defense and the other on offense - the Barber scamper down the left sideline reminded me of Harrison's interception return in the Super Bowl. (We had trouble with that left sideline all year - and bad habits tend to repeat themselves).

Fortunately, Morey and Beisel saved our bacon in OT vs. Dallas. No such luck in the final seconds vs. Pitts.

It's one thing to get beaten because the other team simply played better. But to lose games due to dumbness drives me nuts.

I'm just hoping that we'll grow out of that habit and play tighter for all 60 minutes of every game next season.

 

[Duckjake]

Watched it. Was reminded of a really disturbing pattern the Cardinals fell victim to prior to the playoffs:

At least a couple of times a game, we'd do something really dumb that would reverse the "mo" &/or cost us cheap TD's.

Specific to the Dallas game, there was (a) the run down the left sideline by Barber and (b) the blown coverage that left Miles (?) uncovered in the middle of the field against a soft zone.

Although one was on defense and the other on offense - the Barber scamper down the left sideline reminded me of Harrison's interception return in the Super Bowl. (We had trouble with that left sideline all year - and bad habits tend to repeat themselves).

Fortunately, Morey and Beisel saved our bacon in OT vs. Dallas. No such luck in the final seconds vs. Pitts.

It's one thing to get beaten because the other team simply played better. But to lose games due to dumbness drives me nuts.

I'm just hoping that we'll grow out of that habit and play tighter for all 60 minutes of every game next season.

It was more than a couple of times. In fact the game was a perfect example of what plagued the Cards D all season. Right before the half Dallas had a 2nd and 21 but converted in two plays and then scored on a 55 yd TD pass.

Later the Cards gave up a 14yd TD pass on 3rd and 4 and finally allowed Dallas a 30 yard gain on 3rd and 11 after a penalty improved them from 3rd and 16 to allow Dallas to kick the tying FG.

Along with the 70yd TD it is precisely why the Cards had to make a change at Defensive Coordinator. It just happened far too often with Pendy in charge of the D. A classic break but don't bend performance.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Fair enough.

Sometimes I think Jessica Simpson can sing even though I haven't heard a note sang.

She can.

 

[DemsMyBoys]

It was a whole lot easier to watch when I knew the outcome. Wasn't bouncing off the walls like last time.

 

[perivolaki]

Along with the 70yd TD it is precisely why the Cards had to make a change at Defensive Coordinator. It just happened far too often with Pendy in charge of the D. A classic break but don't bend performance.

Why would you say that?

I know some don't like Clancy but several players were in positions to make the play on that 70 yard run and just failed to do so.

I don't know how that can be Pendergasts fault.

I think plays like those are more why we brought in a corner like McFadden who is known for his solid tackling. Whiz has even said that the he hoped to give up less big plays by bringing in McFadden.

Remember that Ralph Brown failed miserably on that play even though he was in perfect position to push Barber out of bounds.

 

[Duckjake]

Why would you say that?

I know some don't like Clancy but several players were in positions to make the play on that 70 yard run and just failed to do so.

I don't know how that can be Pendergasts fault.

I think plays like those are more why we brought in a corner like McFadden who is known for his solid tackling. Whiz has even said that the he hoped to give up less big plays by bringing in McFadden.

Remember that Ralph Brown failed miserably on that play even though he was in perfect position to push Barber out of bounds.

If it were only that one play I could agree but when it happens repeatedly, almost every game for 2-3 years, its the coaching.

 

[JeffGollin]

Let Me Split One or Two Hairs...

If it were only that one play I could agree but when it happens repeatedly, almost every game for 2-3 years, its the coaching.

I agree that all three Cardinal units (D, O and ST) were "sideline-challenged" throughout the year.

I also agree that coaches aren't the guys taking the wrong angles and missing the tackles.

But - in coaching as in most forms of managing - when things go wrong on your watch, you're responsible for (a) being held accountable and (b) seeing to it that the problem is solved.

That said - before we throw Pendergast and other members of his staff under any buses - it would be helpful to know how much time, if any, was spent in the film room or on the practice field working on defending the sideline. (i.e. what aren't our guys doing that they should do? Are there techniques that other teams are good at that we're not doing)?

(Of course, if it turns out the coaches were doing everything possible and certain players continued to screw up, it then becomes a matter of either getting new players or new assistants.

But the important thing is to follow the famous words of SNL's Tracey Morgan - "Fix it!"

 

[RonF]

Why would you say that?

I know some don't like Clancy but several players were in positions to make the play on that 70 yard run and just failed to do so.

I don't know how that can be Pendergasts fault.

I think plays like those are more why we brought in a corner like McFadden who is known for his solid tackling. Whiz has even said that the he hoped to give up less big plays by bringing in McFadden.

Remember that Ralph Brown failed miserably on that play even though he was in perfect position to push Barber out of bounds.

I think the reason that Pendergast was let go was our 2008 defensive standing (28th in the league) for points against. We just didn't improve over the years under his leadership.

We still struggle with open field tackling and the Dallas game was a good example to show how sloppy we play at times. I hope never again to hear of the bend, do not break, defense.

 

[Duckjake]

I think the reason that Pendergast was let go was our 2008 defensive standing (28th in the league) for points against. We just didn't improve over the years under his leadership.

We still struggle with open field tackling and the Dallas game was a good example to show how sloppy we play at times. I hope never again to hear of the bend, do not break, defense.

It was the break but don't bend defense.

If you have the same players making the same mistakes over several years with different players but the same coaches, it is the coaches fault either for not teaching proper techniques, not putting the players in position to succeed or not getting the right players.

 

[JeffGollin]

If you have the same players making the same mistakes over several years with different players but the same coaches, it is the coaches fault....

Duck - You're right in theory, but Wiz and his staff have only been here for two years. (Pendergast goes back a couple of years earlier to the Denny era).

So it isn't as if our coaches have been around for all that long. That said - I'd give these guys a somewhat shorter window of time with which to fix things.

Like the next game.

 

[Duckjake]

Duck - You're right in theory, but Wiz and his staff have only been here for two years. (Pendergast goes back a couple of years earlier to the Denny era).

So it isn't as if our coaches have been around for all that long. That said - I'd give these guys a somewhat shorter window of time with which to fix things.

Like the next game.

I agree but I was only talking about Pendergast who ran a break but don't bend defense every year he was in the AZ. Whisenhunt is trying to fix things. That's why he sent CP packing.

 

[Lorenzo]

that was the game dallas lost felix jones for the season. He only had two or three carries in that game but still gained good yardage. barber was good in the passing game but the cards shut him down on the ground. overall it was a poor game for both offensive clubs I thought and the defensive sides played well. The biggest difference was porous special teams play by the cowboys and great special teams play by the cards....a 14 point swing in that regard.