Keim as GM? (my perspective)

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Would be a huge step back after this large step forward today.



Keim was a part of the Graves regime. The inept talent assessment and player management. Huge part.

Id be sick if Keim got the job. Guys Graves 2.0.
 

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Would be a huge step back after this large step forward today.



Keim was a part of the Graves regime. The inept talent assessment and player management. Huge part.

Id be sick if Keim got the job. Guys Graves 2.0.
I don't feel as strongly about it, but I would prefer Jason Licht considering his background.
 
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I don't feel as strongly about it, but I would prefer Jason Licht considering his background.

Promote from within anyone would be a horrible decision.


Besides Horton. Hed be great.
 

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Depends on how the interview goes. If Keim stipulates its his way or the highway , who knows?
 

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How do you guys come to the conclusion that graves me tired keim?


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From the mouth of Mike Jurecki. "Mike wants to hire a guy who he can control". This means that it really doesn't matter who gets the GM job because it's Mike B who will be making the decisions.
 

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Would be a huge step back after this large step forward today.



Keim was a part of the Graves regime. The inept talent assessment and player management. Huge part.

Id be sick if Keim got the job. Guys Graves 2.0.

I'm not sold on Keim. There was an article a few years ago that really blasted Keim; too focused on the SEC, too willing to look past players at smaller schools, etc. I think Green had a bigger role to play than Keim when we went to the SB regarding the assembly of talent.

If Mike B wants control, then Mike B needs to be the GM. Otherwise, hire someone to do it and get out of they way.
 

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I'm not sold on Keim. There was an article a few years ago that really blasted Keim; too focused on the SEC, too willing to look past players at smaller schools, etc. I think Green had a bigger role to play than Keim when we went to the SB regarding the assembly of talent.

If Mike B wants control, then Mike B needs to be the GM. Otherwise, hire someone to do it and get out of they way.
I agree 100%
 

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I'm not sold on Keim. There was an article a few years ago that really blasted Keim; too focused on the SEC, too willing to look past players at smaller schools, etc.

Why shouldn't he focus on the SEC, its the premier conference in college football and players from that conference tend to have success in the NFL.
 

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From the mouth of Mike Jurecki. "Mike wants to hire a guy who he can control". This means that it really doesn't matter who gets the GM job because it's Mike B who will be making the decisions.

I'm not sold on Keim. There was an article a few years ago that really blasted Keim; too focused on the SEC, too willing to look past players at smaller schools, etc. I think Green had a bigger role to play than Keim when we went to the SB regarding the assembly of talent.

If Mike B wants control, then Mike B needs to be the GM. Otherwise, hire someone to do it and get out of they way.

It's Mike B.'s dollars that are going to be spent. Do you really think he will just hand over the reins to a GM and walk away without any say in how those dollars are spent? Only a very stupid businessman would do that.
 

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It's Mike B.'s dollars that are going to be spent. Do you really think he will just hand over the reins to a GM and walk away without any say in how those dollars are spent? Only a very stupid businessman would do that.

There's some truth to what you're saying but there's even more truth in the idea that a smart businessman hires the right people for the job and then gets the heck out of their way so they can do that job.

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It's Mike B.'s dollars that are going to be spent. Do you really think he will just hand over the reins to a GM and walk away without any say in how those dollars are spent? Only a very stupid businessman would do that.

Don't bring logic into the conversation with two of the biggest overreacters on this board. I actually tjink they may be the same poster.
 

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There's some truth to what you're saying but there's even more truth in the idea that a smart businessman hires the right people for the job and then gets the heck out of their way so they can do that job.

Steve

Obviously, you aren't a businessman.
 

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Obviously, you aren't a businessman.
I would say he is right. It's not that he just blindly lets them work, but he should only step in if he doesn't like something they are doing. That being said I am all for him being the decision maker for who his head coach and GM are going to be, but just as long as he mostly stays out of the player decisions.
 

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Yeah, who wants players from the best conference in college football when you can focus on guys from Fordham, Richmond, the Citadel, and San Jose City College? Lol...
 

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Would be a huge step back after this large step forward today.



Keim was a part of the Graves regime. The inept talent assessment and player management. Huge part.

Id be sick if Keim got the job. Guys Graves 2.0.

I kind of feel like this. I'm lukewarm on Keim, but would be ok.

However, I'd REALLY love to see us go outside the org for a strong football mind and just give him control.
 

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From the mouth of Mike Jurecki. "Mike wants to hire a guy who he can control". This means that it really doesn't matter who gets the GM job because it's Mike B who will be making the decisions.

Jurecki is a ******* who doesn't know corn from crap. I give three efs about what Jurecki thinks.

From the mouth of Jurecki = blah blah blather.
 

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Jurecki is a ******* who doesn't know corn from crap. I give three efs about what Jurecki thinks.

From the mouth of Jurecki = blah blah blather.

Exactly.

Jurecki uses the spaghetti method of reporting. Throw it all out there, some of it's bound to be right.
 

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I would say he is right. It's not that he just blindly lets them work, but he should only step in if he doesn't like something they are doing. That being said I am all for him being the decision maker for who his head coach and GM are going to be, but just as long as he mostly stays out of the player decisions.

If it was your dollars at stake, would you be willing to do that? We don't know what input MB has in these decisions, but I'm sure anything that has to do with money runs through him and rightly so. You can't run a business by remote control. As a manager, you need to be involved in all major decisions and hiring multi-million dollar players is a major decision.
 

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Yes, Keim was part of an overall bad front office the past few years. By the same token, though, Fitz was part of one of the most inept offenses we've ever seen.
 

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It's Mike B.'s dollars that are going to be spent. Do you really think he will just hand over the reins to a GM and walk away without any say in how those dollars are spent? Only a very stupid businessman would do that.

Not saying he should. But his comments come off more like micromanaging to me. You and I both know that there's a big difference between the two.
 

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Why shouldn't he focus on the SEC, its the premier conference in college football and players from that conference tend to have success in the NFL.

The criticism wasn't that he just focused on the SEC, it's that he did so almost exclusively.
 

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Look around at teams rosters and where they played their colleges ball. Most of them come from the SEC. Peyton and Eli Mannning come from the SEC.
The majority of talent in the NFL comes from the south.
 

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