Kelly Oubre Jr.

[95pro]

The fact that Oubre sees himself as a defense first player is a good thing. Again, this team's recent success is built on defense. Their future success is likely in that direction also. Oubre seems to be defend the 1-4 positions (at least at times) is a real help. That video has him defending IT to Horford and doing it well. If you are going to have multiple players at one position, it might as well be long-armed defensive oriented wings who can shoot the three. Mikal seems to be able to defend the 1-3 position, and JJ has the potential to defend 1-4. Warren can defend 3-4 (in a very average sort of way). Ayton can defend the 4-5 positions and Holmes can too. Melton seems to be showing signs of being able to defend 1-2 and even some smaller 3's in rare instances. That kind of defensive versatility can make a hyper switching defense very effective.

Those are good points, I'd say though JJ 1-3. I really do like Oubre's length.

 

[Finito]

It’s because Lebron wanted him. Everything begins and ends with Lebron.


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Not really. It has more to do with Houston falling apart this season

 

[gimpy]

I just read on ESPN where Oubre has one of the 9 blocks on L James dunks.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Oubre is one of those defenders that other teams think is a borderline dirty player. As I watch the footage, I don't see it, but he does frustrate opponents.

 

[95pro]

Oubre is one of those defenders that other teams think is a borderline dirty player. As I watch the footage, I don't see it, but he does frustrate opponents.

I like it, the more change to our culture the better.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Oubre is one of those defenders that other teams think is a borderline dirty player. As I watch the footage, I don't see it, but he does frustrate opponents.

I always like when we have a player other teams hate (Ainge, Elie, Raja, Kurt and Tim thomas).

 

[Ronin]

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[JCSunsfan]

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[taz02]

Looks good to me, the team could use a little attitude. Maybe some will rub off on Ayton.

 

[AzStevenCal]

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Did anyone else here love to see Olynyk go down after watching the cheap shot shoulder to the face on that pick?

 

[SirStefan32]

I mean the fact that you can find a 10 minute highlight video of his defense from one season is encouraging. Doesn't mean he plays like this 100% of the time, but if he does he will do quite well with us.

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that is a really interesting video! First thing I noticed is that he defends some quick and good point guards quite well. IT, Dragic, Tague, etc. It doesn't look like it's because he ends up having to switch on them either. It looks like he is guarding them by design. We also see him defending good scoring SGs and SFs well- Booker, Butler, etc. Finally, we see him doing a pretty damn good job defending the post against bigger players such as Horford, Giannis, Lebron.

One interesting thing I noticed... in one highlight, Wizards are up by 5 and the time is running out. Oposing player (I think it was Teague) attempts a three-point shot. Even if he hits it, Wizards win, but oubre defends him as if though the game was tied. Very interesting! I am looking forward to seeing this young man play more. Imagine if they went with a lineup of Melton, Bridges, Jackson, Oubre, and Holmes for a few minutes. You can even substitute one of them for Crawford, Booker, or Warren to add some scoring and it still ends up being an insane defensive lineup.

 

[SirStefan32]

Did anyone else here love to see Olynyk go down after watching the cheap shot shoulder to the face on that pick?

Yes! Initially I din't like what Oubre did, but then I realized it was Olynyk, so I decided I can tolerate it.

 

[JCSunsfan]

And his first game with us is against Boston. Could be an interesting night.

 

[devilalum]

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Awesome
I feel exactly the same way about Celtics fans. So much so that I will openly argue with anybody that Bird is overrated.


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[devilalum]

Why did the Suns not want this guy?

Looks like great value for an overpaid team cancer.


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[Sunburn]

Why did the Suns not want this guy?

Looks like great value for an overpaid team cancer.


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Who said the Suns didn't want him?

 

[devilalum]

Who said the Suns didn't want him?

Really?


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[Sunburn]

Really?


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Maybe we wanted Dillon Brooks more since he has a better contract situation, but if we didn't want Oubre, why would we acquire him?

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Really?


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The Suns wanted Dillon Brooks initially and he is essentially a better shooting version of Oubre with extra time left on his rookie contract. It makes sense that he was the Suns initial target, but Oubre makes a lot of sense as the guy to settle for after Brooks, but just isn't quite as good of a get as Brooks would have been because he will get paid after this season.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Maybe we wanted Dillon Brooks more since he has a better contract situation, but if we didn't want Oubre, why would we acquire him?

Unless it was mis-reported, Washington was going to send a pair of 2nd round picks to Memphis as part of the deal which would mean Dillon had more value than Oubre to them too so it should be no surprise that we wanted him more. And, yeah, that doesn't mean that we didn't want Oubre.

 

[devilalum]

Maybe we wanted Dillon Brooks more since he has a better contract situation, but if we didn't want Oubre, why would we acquire him?

I’ve read all the threads and articles that everybody else did. I meant he was not the first choice. And we don’t know if the Suns made the final deal to try and minimize the PR hit.


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[CardsSunsDbacks]

I’ve read all the threads and articles that everybody else did. I meant he was not the first choice. And we don’t know if the Suns made the final deal to try and minimize the PR hit.


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I mean I would argue that in most trades a team doesn't get their first choice. So they move on to their 2nd choice or 3rd or 4th, etc. Deciding to make the trade for Oubre and then having no hesitation to agree to cut ties with Rivers tells me that they made the trade specifically to get Oubre and that would suggest that they indeed want him.

 

[Raindog]

Why did the Suns not want this guy?
Looks like great value for an overpaid team cancer.

I think the bigger question is why the heck did we want Dillon Brooks? I'm still trying to wrap my head around anyone who initially thought that him + Rivers was a good deal.

Getting Oubre was a MUCH better outcome, IMHO. I think he will be a good bench player here, and certainly brings a better attitude than the outgoing guy.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I think the bigger question is why the heck did we want Dillon Brooks? I'm still trying to wrap my head around anyone who initially thought that him + Rivers was a good deal.

Getting Oubre was a MUCH better outcome, IMHO. I think he will be a good bench player here, and certainly brings a better attitude than the outgoing guy.

He's always been injury prone but I watched him take over games in the closing minutes several times in college - and I don't just mean scoring, he took the game over in whatever way was needed. So, I was fine with getting him for a veteran that clearly didn't want to be here. It's not much value but Ariza shouldn't have all that much value anyway.

I don't know much about Oubre except what I've read and a fair amount of that has not been positive, at least not wholly positive. Everyone raves about his potential but he hasn't progressed as quickly as some would hope especially considering his upcoming free agency. If he were at his current level and at the start of his rookie deal, he'd be a huge almost unattainable asset but approaching his second contract, he's still somewhat of a question mark.

 

[Raindog]

I think Oubre may not be a star or even frontline type talent, but I could see him as an effective role player here. Kind of like Ariza was supposed to be (allegedly)... but without the "I'm too good for this place" ego routine. So far, everything I have heard about him seems to support that he is willing to accept a role on a young/developing team.