Kerr coming on XTRA910 shortly.

[JCSunsfan]

I'd have alot more confidence in this organization if they just came out and said, "we blew it. I am a rookie GM and I gotted jobbed in my first draft. All I can do now is learn from it and not make that mistake again."

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Used San Antonio as an example. But that is Bogus.

Weren't Parker and Ginobili late first round picks?

We have a doofus for a GM.

Haven't the Spurs picked about 7 or 8 international players in a row? I think that all of their scouts just focus on international players, as you are much, much more likely to find a diamond overseas.

 

[JCSunsfan]

BTW, they drafted Splitter, who will contribute in San Antonio.

 

[SweetD]

yeah, I really never want to hear my GM say we're hapy where we are when we've won 60 plus games two of the last three years and we haven't even got a WC Title, much less an NBA Chip to talk about.

I am not sure how JJ & Amare getting hurt and Amare & Diaw jumping off the bench has anything to do with our GM not wanting to change. You can't replace that type of production from a draft pick or swapping talent. Lets face it Mike doesn't use his bench so no matter what rookie we brought in unless his name was Durrant they wouldn't have seen any minutes. I for one am happy we didn't rip this team up again. I am still hoping we sign Hill and possible Blake. The only changes I would like to see is us moving Banks I feel he will do very well in the summer league and some teams will have intrest in him

 

[SunsTzu]

I'd have alot more confidence in this organization if they just came out and said, "we blew it. I am a rookie GM and I gotted jobbed in my first draft. All I can do now is learn from it and not make that mistake again."

They can't possibly do that, becasue they are prepared to create more "flexibility" next.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

that's even worse - they're ggoing to trade the 8th pick in a top-loaded draft for late round picks AND take 9 million dollars in salary off our hands? Why would Charlotto want to get bent over like that?

Well they traded a potentially dominating big (Wright) for Richardson when they already had a similar player on their roster (Wallace) that they are trying to resign.

Jordan is worse than Isiah.

Isiah really impressed me with that trade last night.

 

[Covert Rain]

I am still waiting for someone to explain away the fact that the Suns sold their pick for 3 million when clearly it was worth more. They could have also gotten a pick.

So was Kerr just inept at negotiating or was Sarver's only intent was getting the cash and avoiding an extra contract next year?

 

[asudevil83]

my fear is not that we have had Morons for GM these past two years.....

my fear is that there in the Moron is the one with the money, and Kerr has a vision of what he wants to do but cant get the approval to do so.

Kerr is a smart man....but when the man above his says NO to any risk or addition of salary to the team, what can he do. stumbling over questions like a duffus could just be Kerr trying not to say "Sarver killed the deals because of the money"

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I am still waiting for someone to explain away the fact that the Suns sold their pick for 3 million when clearly it was worth more. They could have also gotten a pick.

So was Kerr just inept at negotiating or was Sarver's only intent was getting the cash and avoiding an extra contract next year?

To be fair, they didn't know that's all that they could have gotten. That's all they got last year, and the other deal happened after theirs.

 

[SweetD]

it's sad when we actually know more about basketball than our GM. Although, seeing as he played there, I'm thinking this kind of statement is just REALLY disingenuous spin that takes advantage of the average fans lack of historical knowledge about the Spurs. Basically, the above statement shows me that Steve Kerr thinks we are stupid.

oy. I thought he was gonna be a really solid GM and had great potential when he got here, but I gotta tell you, so far, he ain't impressing me.

oh well.

Your kidding right? Even all the weeks you spent with the draft picks at the practice gym, they didn't listen to your feedback...

COME ON PEOPLE we don't know half of the crap that goes on. I am sorry unless you see a guy play in the gym with equal tallent you can't even think you know more than someone else.

This is a business not just a fantasy team you can do what ever you want.

 

[devilalum]

my fear is not that we have had Morons for GM these past two years.....

my fear is that there in the Moron is the one with the money, and Kerr has a vision of what he wants to do but cant get the approval to do so.

Kerr is a smart man....but when the man above his says NO to any risk or addition of salary to the team, what can he do. stumbling over questions like a duffus could just be Kerr trying not to say "Sarver killed the deals because of the money"

This is the thing. If you want to be employed in an NBA front office for a long period of time you NEVER bite the hand that feeds you. If you adhere to this rule and have half a brain you will always manage to find employment.

Every GM must be an accomplished spin doctor.

 

[SunsTzu]

To be fair, they didn't know that's all that they could have gotten. That's all they got last year, and the other deal happened after theirs.

Then they are inept. The going rate on the 24th pick in one of the deepest drafts in history is more than just cash. They couldn't even move up in the 2nd round because even those picks are valued

The Suns seem to think the rest of the league has the same low opinion of rookies as they do.

 

[Chaplin]

Assuming that Sarver makes every decision is naive considering NOBODY knows the real story. This is all assumption by EVERYBODY.

 

[SunsTzu]

Assuming that Sarver makes every decision is naive considering NOBODY knows the real story. This is all assumption by EVERYBODY.

Well if he's not forcing them to make these money saving moves then I have no confidence in the front office. These guys are never going to put the Suns over the top with these kinds of moves.

 

[Chaplin]

Well if he's not forcing them to make these money saving moves then I have no confidence in the front office. These guys are never goign to put the Susn over the top with these kinds of moves.

I don't think you'll get much argument there. I just think that everyone gives Sarver way too much credit when it comes to front office decisions.

 

[SunsTzu]

I don't think you'll get much argument there. I just think that everyone gives Sarver way too much credit when it comes to front office decisions.

I'd still blame him for not putting the proper people in place and letting BC walk.

 

[nowagimp]

Your kidding right? Even all the weeks you spent with the draft picks at the practice gym, they didn't listen to your feedback...

COME ON PEOPLE we don't know half of the crap that goes on. I am sorry unless you see a guy play in the gym with equal tallent you can't even think you know more than someone else.

This is a business not just a fantasy team you can do what ever you want.

Some people are so smart they dont need to see players play or workout to know how good they are or how they would fit. Or, at least they believe in their ability to make great evaluations without background work. Those are not the people the suns should hire as scouts.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Then they are inept. The going rate on the 24th pick in one of the deepest drafts in history is more than just cash. They couldn't even move up in the 2nd round because even those picks are valued

The Suns seem to think the rest of the league has the same low opinion of rookies as they do.

That's a good way of looking at it.

Still, hindsight is always 20/20.

No matter what would have happened, this board would have been filled with people complaining that he should have, or shouldn't have done something else.

 

[SweetD]

I don't think you'll get much argument there. I just think that everyone gives Sarver way too much credit when it comes to front office decisions.

I do business with the Suns and I can tell you Sarver does not make the decisions by himself. He is only a partial owner of an investment group, other are invovled, this not a one man show!

 

[JS22]

it's sad when we actually know more about basketball than our GM. Although, seeing as he played there, I'm thinking this kind of statement is just REALLY disingenuous spin that takes advantage of the average fans lack of historical knowledge about the Spurs. Basically, the above statement shows me that Steve Kerr thinks we are stupid.

oy. I thought he was gonna be a really solid GM and had great potential when he got here, but I gotta tell you, so far, he ain't impressing me.

oh well.

I'm absolutely sure that we, a bunch of fans posting on a message board and salivating over any KG rumor thrown our way, know more about basketball than the GM of the Phoenix Suns.

Really. 100% certain.

 

[SunsTzu]

Your kidding right? Even all the weeks you spent with the draft picks at the practice gym, they didn't listen to your feedback...

COME ON PEOPLE we don't know half of the crap that goes on. I am sorry unless you see a guy play in the gym with equal tallent you can't even think you know more than someone else.

This is a business not just a fantasy team you can do what ever you want.

You're right there were no players in the last 4 drafts that could have possibly helped the Suns.

And the amazing scouting that fans know nothing about have netted picks like Casey Jacobsen and Zarko who most us dumb fans didn't want.

 

[SunsTzu]

I do business with the Suns and I can tell you Sarver does not make the decisions by himself. He is only a partial owner of an investment group, other are invovled, this not a one man show!

Is that supposed to make anyone feel better? A room full of penny pinchers instead of one?

 

[Covert Rain]

I do business with the Suns and I can tell you Sarver does not make the decisions by himself. He is only a partial owner of an investment group, other are invovled, this not a one man show!

How is that different from JC? It's an investment group. Certain decisions are made about the overall business of the team by the group. However, when it comes to the actual day to day personnel type stuff it's Sarver. That's why he put up the most money....to make those decisions. He is the controlling partner. He doesn't have to listen to the other owners in that respect.

 

[SweetD]

Yes and
Damir Markota
Ian Mahinmi
Beno Udrih
Romain Sato
Sergei Karaulov

Have helped the Spurs win all those Championships

 

[JS22]

I'd have alot more confidence in this organization if they just came out and said, "we blew it. I am a rookie GM and I gotted jobbed in my first draft. All I can do now is learn from it and not make that mistake again."

Jesus Christ people.

The Suns actually drafted 2 players and you all find something to complain about. Not to mention they actually KEPT Kurt Thomas. Oh, and Grant Hill has been in Phoenix recently. I can almost guarantee that he will be signed soon.

They tried to move up and the Bobcats backed out at the last second. Big deal. I'd rather have next years ATL pick plus my own picks anyways.

I'm positive that most people on this board would still be complaining if the Suns traded 4 picks to move up. "Oh. Look! Rookie GM and $arver traded 4 picks including the unprotected ATL pick. What a couple of cheap bastards! All we're going to have for the next 2 drafts is the #8 this year and a couple of 2nd rounders who don't play. I bet $arver sells our 2nd round picks anyways! Cheap bastard!"