I am not ignoring anything of the such. My point was slin showed the statistical comparison between the two players and suggested giving up our # 4 draft pick to bring in KG. I feel that going by statistics that the Marion for KG is not a huge upgrade if we are also giving up a possible # 4. I am pretty sure if we kept the team in tact and added whoever it is we,hopefully, get to pick this year from Atlanta that we could find an additional 4pts per game, 3 rebounds, and 3 assts per game and possibly a ton more depending on who we get.
Hold on a minute. I don't defend Slin much around here, but you've completely twisted his argument. It was the other guy who wanted to argue statistics. Statistically I would agree the difference between Shawn Marion and KG is not worth a #4, but the differences between those two players that you don't see in the stat sheets are enormous.
Shawn Marion is a great rebounder especially given his size, but the big, long teams are always killing the Phoenix Suns in the rebound apartment. That problem goes away completely and almost certainly swings the other way with mAmare and KG playing next to each other.
Defensively there is just no comparison. Yes, Shawn Marion guards many different positions. He doesn't guard all of them well though. Where the team needs the help the most, in the post, he always requires a double team and most of the time gets killed anyways.
Lastly, I think Amare Stoudemire and KG would work very well together, and most importantly it would/should mean that Steve Nash doesn't have to do EVERYTHING on offense.
I am not willing to sell what could be a big future for what could be a championship next year if we get KG. If everything stayed the same as is with this team and we add a top draft pick like we could who is to say we aren't in a way better position to win this year and for a lot more I don't think we need to get older with KG who will be 31 today, actually. We have had some really good luck in the draft and not so good luck in trades as of late, imo.
I am not going to get into the postives and negatives of Marions game that has been debated to death and I am tired of it. With that being said, I love Marion more than any other player on this team, even Nash, but I am not ignorant to the fact that there is a great possibility he leaves us this year.
I think giving Marion and other pieces is fine.What other pieces? That's the difficult part. I don't think giving up the Atlanta pick is a good idea in this upcoming draft.
....so much for not getting involved in trade talks
Here's the thing. How badly do you want a championship? If, and I emphasize the word "if", the Suns could somehow get KG while keeping Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, and either the #4 or Barbosa it would be the best shot the Phoenix Suns have had at a championship since Charles Barkley came here. In fact I would say they would have a better shot (let's hope so since that team didn't win one
).
Here's the problem though. Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, and KG together constitute roughly $46.5 million, and the following year it would be $50.5 million. Barbosa would mean a little bit less than $6 million per each of those two years. That would leave about $10 million for the rest of the team just to get down to the $66 million they spent this year. I doubt I need remind everyone that Diaw alone makes $9 million per season.
I would love it if they could pull this off, but I honestly don't see Sarver spending THAT much money not only next year but a few years after that. One thing is for certain. It should be an interesting summer, especially if the Phoenix Suns actually get lucky and land at Atlantic draft pick.
Joe
