Kidd close to being a Maverick again

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3244102

Jason Kidd has quietly -- and not so quietly -- hoped for a trade to the Dallas Mavericks all season.

And now Kidd has stronger-than-ever hope that the wish will be granted, according to NBA front-office sources.


Sources told ESPN.com that talks between the Mavericks and Nets, which had seemingly stalled, grew serious after the teams played Sunday night in New Jersey and have moved them to the brink of completing the NBA's third blockbuster deal of the month.

Although sources say that the teams are still sorting out final details, this deal was described as "imminent" by one source close to the process after negotiations moved to an advanced stage Tuesday night. The proposed swap -- salvaged from talks of a three-way trade with Portland that developed and fizzled quickly two weeks ago -- would require Dallas to send 24-year-old point guard Devin Harris, veteran swingman Jerry Stackhouse, the expiring contracts of center DeSegana Diop and swingman Devean George and another player such as guard Maurice Ager to New Jersey for Kidd and possibly veteran guard Darrell Armstrong. It's believed that Dallas would also send New Jersey cash and future draft considerations.



Dallas has been widely considered the most likely winner of the Kidd trade sweepstakes, despite the repeated attempts of Mavericks owner Mark Cuban to publicly dismiss the idea of parting with multiple regulars for Kidd. Cuban told several New York-based reporters Sunday before New Jersey beat Dallas that a deal for All-Star floor leader would severely weaken his roster.

"For us to make the numbers work in a deal like that, we'd have to trade away half the team," Cuban said. "We're not doing that, so it just doesn't work. And we like our team. We've got a lot of room for improvement and we hope to get better. But right now, I just don't see anything happening.

Yet sources close to the process insist that the talks have heated up in the past 24 hours, with the Mavs still tantalized by the prospect of bringing Kidd back more than a decade after the pre-Cuban regime drafted him out of Cal, watched him share rookie of the year honors with Grant Hill in 1994-95 and then traded him to Phoenix on the day after Christmas in 1996.

The Mavs' biggest reservation, though, isn't sacrificing Harris. Sources maintain that Dallas, while reluctant to part with one of Cuban's favorite players and its point guard of the future after signing Harris to a contract extension over the summer, has been resigned for some time to losing Harris if it meant getting Kidd back.

The greater hesitation, sources said, is that they would also have to part with Stackhouse and Diop, weakening Dallas' depth. Although it's believed that Stackhouse is likely to be bought out and released by the Nets, which would enable Dallas to re-sign him if he sits out for 30 days, there's no guarantee they can convince Stackhouse to resist the interest of other teams to return once he becomes a free agent. Losing Diop, meanwhile, is an even bigger blow, as that would leave the undependable Erick Dampier as the Mavericks' only veteran center at a time when potential playoff foes like the Los Angeles Lakers (Pau Gasol) and Phoenix Suns (Shaquille O'Neal) are getting bigger.
 

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Kidd pissed and moaned about wanting to be traded to a contender, and by the time the Mavericks scrape together roughly $20 mil in salaries to match the money coming in, they'll have lost the depth that made them contenders in the first place. How ironic!
 

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Lakers and suns get bigger and the mavs get smaller.
 

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When I first saw this headline on espn I was mad, now I see what dallas is giving up and I'm thrilled. Horrible deal for dallas. Plus, stackhouse is the one guy who always kills us.
 

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Throw that trade in the new ESPN Trade Machine and it looks like this:

Dallas Mavericks
You have decreased the winning percentage by -17.07%

Projected: W-52 L-30
After trade: W-38 L-44

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Jason Kidd
$19,728,000
Years Remaining: 2
PPG: 11 RPG: 7
APG: 10 PER: 16.07


  • J. Kidd
  • D. Armstrong
Outgoing Players: DeSagana Diop, Devin Harris, Maurice Ager, Devean George, Jerry Stackhouse










New Jersey Nets
You have increased the winning percentage by 4.88%

Projected: W-32 L-50
After trade: W-36 L-46

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DeSagana Diop
$2,146,000
Years Remaining: 1
PPG: 3 RPG: 5
APG: 0 PER: 13.609


  • D. Diop
  • D. Harris
  • M. Ager
  • D. George
  • J. Stackhouse
Outgoing Players: Jason Kidd, Darrell Armstrong







Plus Dallas would have to pick up one more player to get to the minimum roster like we do.



Their depth chart would look like this:
PG: Kidd/Terry/Armstrong/Barea
SG: Jones
SF: Howard/Hassell
PF: Dirk/Bass
C: Dampier/Fazekas



With that I would figure that Terry would be put either in the starting backcourt with Kidd or behind Jones at SG. If that's the case, we'd definitely match up better with them when they do. Bell would track Kidd and Nash on Terry for defense.
 

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HAHAHA Kidd sucks. He sucks at shooting and is good at turnovers. Dallas gets worse New Jersey gets better. Nets doing good = Bad for Hawks = Good for Suns.
 

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This deal would be awesome if it happened.

Kidd is poor offensively, doesn't guard Nash too well either and then they give up Stackhouse one of their best shooters, Harris one of their fastest players and best defenders and Diop leaving them with just 1 guy who can somewhat deal with Shaq.

Playoff series against Western Conference teams in which Kidd played more than 1 game and his team won the series? ZERO.
 

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Makes the Mavericks weaker, particularly against the Suns, since Harris and Stackhouse both kill Phoenix.
 

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HAHAHA Kidd sucks. He sucks at shooting and is good at turnovers. Dallas gets worse New Jersey gets better. Nets doing good = Bad for Hawks = Good for Suns.

Kid doesn't suck and is a hall of famer. The guy isn't a very good shooter but is streaky. However, I hope this deal goes down to because this doesn't get Dallas a ring and it weakens them for the future.
 

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I like Kidd and all, but how much better does he make them, especially when giving up Harris, Stackhouse and Diop?
 

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I'd love to see this deal go down. Especially if it's just between the 2 teams. This deal would actually drop them to the 4th spot if not down further in the West. They wouldn't be able to play against the Suns, Lakers, Spurs, New Orleans, Houston, Utah.
 

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I just read:

"The Nets trade All-Star point guard Jason Kidd and Malik Allen to the Mavericks for Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse, Devean George, DeSagana Diop, two first-round picks and cash."

Ooops.
 

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holy cow. + 2 1st rounders and cash?

Geez.
 

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If the Nets buy out Stackhouse, I'd love to see the Suns bring him in as the 13th guy for the minimum. :)
 

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Just a thought... but HOW GREAT would it be, if this deal went down, and Stackhouse was bought out...

Send Nash, Shaq, and Amare over to New Jersey to convince Stackhouse he has a better shot, more fun playing for Phoenix....

I think the thought of playing with the best PG on the planet, having Shaq down low, letting him have WIDE open threes, would be hard to pass up..

Our rotation of

PG: Nash/Barbosa
SG: Bell/Stackhouse
SF: Hill/Diaw/Stackhouse
PF: Amare/Skinner/Diaw
C: Shaq/Skinner

while Dallas would have

PG: Kidd/Armstrong
SG: Terry
SF: Howard
PF: Dirk
C: Erica

Oh that would be HEAVEN!
 
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If this trade goes down today or tomorrow, that means we could be playing with Shaq, and they would pretty darned short handed.
 
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It will be interesting to see if the players involved sit out tonight.
 

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Did this really happen? That's a horrible trade for Dallas.

I mean, jeez, look at what the Mavericks got for Gasol, and look at what the Nets might be getting for Kidd. Are their values really that different? Frankly I would put Gasol's value higher.
 

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anyway, if we are not interested in Stackhouse, we can convince the NJ, not to buy him out....

Maybe throw a couple first round picks their way....
 

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