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Kill Bill Vol. I
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Kill Bill / No Spoilers
I saw Kill Bill this afternoon, I thought it was very entertaining, classic Tarantino, very stylish. It takes violence to a comedic level.
Tarantino pays loving homage to the kung fu, spaghetti westerns, of days gone by.
You know the plot/storyline going in but I think the movie succeeds in spite of that.
You leave the theatre wanting to see volume 2
I saw Kill Bill this afternoon, I thought it was very entertaining, classic Tarantino, very stylish. It takes violence to a comedic level.
Tarantino pays loving homage to the kung fu, spaghetti westerns, of days gone by.
You know the plot/storyline going in but I think the movie succeeds in spite of that.
You leave the theatre wanting to see volume 2
Going to see it tomorrow morning - I can't wait to watch it, I really like Tarantino's movies.
Shawn
Shawn
If you are a fan of his past efforts, you will definately like this one too.
There are a couple quick references to his other flicks.
Tell us what you think of it.
There are a couple quick references to his other flicks.
Tell us what you think of it.
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Man - when I first saw the trailer for hgis one I was pretty leery of a second consecutive dissapointment from a director who I thought struck absolute gold with hios ifrst two projects - luckily - KILL BILL was a return to form - now without seeing the next one - i can't say that it is better than PULP or DOGS - to tell you truth, I don't think he'll ever be able to do naything as incredible as PULP, but by far - this movie blows the **** out of Jackie Brown and was one of the most enteraining movies of the years so far - I left before the prologue though - I didn't know there was one - damnit - is it all that important?
Can't wait to see the rest of the flick. February - right?
Can't wait to see the rest of the flick. February - right?
Evil Ash
Henchman Supreme
I just finished watching this myself and I have to say that I absolutely loved it. This is was classic Tarantino ... a bizzare but good mix of dialogue and mucho violence (so much blood and violence its actually comical). Solid, solid movie that I highly recommend!
Ah man, I missed it too ... DOH!
I believe that you are correct!
Ah man, I missed it too ... DOH!
I believe that you are correct!
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Ash - don't worry - I was mistaken - appraently the epilogue used to be right after The Bride was standing over the trunk of the car and then the credits flashed and THEN there was the stuff with her on the plane and the big reveal about what we heard as the last line in the movie - we didn't miss anything - Miramax made sure that the epilogue came before the credits rolled - we saW the whole thing- and I can't wait to see the next one - in fact I may make my bro go see this one again tomorrow after the Cards get their ass kicked - I figure I should see enough blood splash in that game - might as well follow the trend!
What an awesome flick. There are a few things that Tarantino does in this movie that were so cool. Some of the camera shots from above looking down onto the scene were really cool and probably some of my favorites from the movie.
The japanimation sequence was tight. I went into the movie hoping that it wasn't going to distract from the rest of the movie and be just plain cheesy, but Q pulled it off brilliantly - another favorite part for me.
Apparently he had to do that entire side-story in anime or else the movie would have a higher rating that it was given.
The fight scenes (okay, the movie itself is an entire fight scene) were outstanding. Just the way it was shot was so visually interesting and artistic and slick. I remember when Oliver Stone's Natural Born Killers was released and the critics just went on about how violent it was for violences sake. This movie is violent and bloody - even more so than NBK, but it has style and a sleekness that Stone's movie lacked. I think that just shows Tarantino's genuis and understanding of great filmmaking.
Excellent movie - I'll give it 6 Hattori Hanzo Steel Swords out of 5.
Oh yeah - before I forget. For those who haven't seen the movie, I'll just say this - the Roller Coaster ride that is Kill Bill Vol 1 starts early - buckle in as soon as you sit down and don't stand up or else you're likely to lose your head.
Favorite prop in the movie "Kaboom Cereal" - rotfl
Shawn
The japanimation sequence was tight. I went into the movie hoping that it wasn't going to distract from the rest of the movie and be just plain cheesy, but Q pulled it off brilliantly - another favorite part for me.
Apparently he had to do that entire side-story in anime or else the movie would have a higher rating that it was given.The fight scenes (okay, the movie itself is an entire fight scene) were outstanding. Just the way it was shot was so visually interesting and artistic and slick. I remember when Oliver Stone's Natural Born Killers was released and the critics just went on about how violent it was for violences sake. This movie is violent and bloody - even more so than NBK, but it has style and a sleekness that Stone's movie lacked. I think that just shows Tarantino's genuis and understanding of great filmmaking.
Excellent movie - I'll give it 6 Hattori Hanzo Steel Swords out of 5.
Oh yeah - before I forget. For those who haven't seen the movie, I'll just say this - the Roller Coaster ride that is Kill Bill Vol 1 starts early - buckle in as soon as you sit down and don't stand up or else you're likely to lose your head.
Favorite prop in the movie "Kaboom Cereal" - rotfl
Shawn
I saw it earlier tonight, and loved it. I knew what I was in for with a Tarantino flick, so it's not like the blood or guts surprised me.
In classic QT style, the cinematography and casting was genius....even the animated parts impressed me.
I grew up watching cheesy kung-fu movies and in a weird way, I appreciated the homage that Q paid to all those b-movies. The fact that he doesn’t take himself too seriously impresses me as well.
February can’t come soon enough.
In classic QT style, the cinematography and casting was genius....even the animated parts impressed me.
I grew up watching cheesy kung-fu movies and in a weird way, I appreciated the homage that Q paid to all those b-movies. The fact that he doesn’t take himself too seriously impresses me as well.
February can’t come soon enough.
I forget to put this in my post, but I believe that Tarantino has got to be one of the best at matching music to his shots. I've always felt that the music he chooses for his films is just another character and seem to be such an integral part of his films.
Shawn
Shawn
Chaz
observationist
Enjoyed this movie
I went to see Kill Bill last night. A rarity for me to go to the movies.
A really excellent job by QT. His use of music, camera angles, color to B&W, and special effects are so unique.
The chapter breaks are kind of distracting and really break up any kind of flow, even considering the story's timeline is out of order.
I have to give it 4 out of 5 as well.
Over all this movie is to interesting to give only a 3.
I went to see Kill Bill last night. A rarity for me to go to the movies.
A really excellent job by QT. His use of music, camera angles, color to B&W, and special effects are so unique.
The chapter breaks are kind of distracting and really break up any kind of flow, even considering the story's timeline is out of order.
I have to give it 4 out of 5 as well.
Over all this movie is to interesting to give only a 3.
mdamien13
Go Cardinals! Yay!!!
I liked it. I think I would have liked it even more had I been a fan of Hong Kong action films but I really appreciated how he paid homage to them. The entire fight through the House of the Blue Leaves was incredible. Like the use of anime for the backstory. Lucy Liu is too hot.
I couldn't believe that it was originally supposed to be one movie - it was a perfect setup for part 2. What a way to end the movie - I'll definitely be there for volume 2.
I couldn't believe that it was originally supposed to be one movie - it was a perfect setup for part 2. What a way to end the movie - I'll definitely be there for volume 2.
jon_nyaz
The art of music
Kill Bill
Has anyone seen this flick yet? The review make it out to sound like the next "Gone With The Wind", so I was wondering how enjoyable it was - - really.
Has anyone seen this flick yet? The review make it out to sound like the next "Gone With The Wind", so I was wondering how enjoyable it was - - really.
Cardinals.Ken
That's Mr. Riff-Raff to you!
jon_nyaz
The art of music
Cool. Thanks. It didn't show up in the forum so I posted again.
Cardinals.Ken
That's Mr. Riff-Raff to you!
Matt L
formerly known as mattyboy
the music was actually done by wu tang clan's rza and i think the music really fit the movie perfectly.
Suns_fan69
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Yeah, i noticed that in the opening credits too but the music was a lot different from what I would expect from Rza. That's not to say I didn't like it, as even my gf, who didn't like the movie thought the music was excellent and really helped the tempo and mood of the movie.
*** SPOILER ALERT ***
I thought the hardest part to watch was when she sliced Buck's achilles and then subsequently beat his head with the door. The sound made me cringe; not quite as bad as the fire extinguisher scene in Irreversible, but along the same lines.
*** End Spoiler Alert ***
*** SPOILER ALERT ***
I thought the hardest part to watch was when she sliced Buck's achilles and then subsequently beat his head with the door. The sound made me cringe; not quite as bad as the fire extinguisher scene in Irreversible, but along the same lines.
*** End Spoiler Alert ***
Chaplin
Better off silent
I actually liked it, but I thought there were some problems.
First, it definitely is a style-over-substance movie, but I expected that going in.
Secondly, I definitely could have stayed for another hour--I don't understand Miramax's idiotic splitting of the movie--LOTR, Matrix, Braveheart, English Patient, there are a ton of movies that are 3 hours long.
Third, I had, not really a problem, but an issue with the whole time issue. In Pulp Fiction, the time jumping around made a sort of crazy sense, in this one, he attempts to really downplay it, especially considering the last scene chronilogically is the first scene in the movie. So you have to know the answer to that last question that Bill asks Sophie.
****SPOILER****
Obviously, <beep> doesn't know that her daughter was still alive.
And lastly, I understand wanting to prevent piracy, but towards the end of the movie, those dots in the middle of the screen were becoming very annoying. I hope that doesn't start a trend.
First, it definitely is a style-over-substance movie, but I expected that going in.
Secondly, I definitely could have stayed for another hour--I don't understand Miramax's idiotic splitting of the movie--LOTR, Matrix, Braveheart, English Patient, there are a ton of movies that are 3 hours long.
Third, I had, not really a problem, but an issue with the whole time issue. In Pulp Fiction, the time jumping around made a sort of crazy sense, in this one, he attempts to really downplay it, especially considering the last scene chronilogically is the first scene in the movie. So you have to know the answer to that last question that Bill asks Sophie.
****SPOILER****
Obviously, <beep> doesn't know that her daughter was still alive.
And lastly, I understand wanting to prevent piracy, but towards the end of the movie, those dots in the middle of the screen were becoming very annoying. I hope that doesn't start a trend.
Suns_fan69
Official ASFN Lurker
I dunno. I thought it was the perfect length. All that action was a little bit overwhelming for me. I enjoyed it a lot, but even as it is I think I missed a lot of subtle nuances in some of the scenes and if it was any longer I think it'd be even worse. Besides, didn't Tarantino split it into 2 parts because he was having a rough time even editing the whole thing into 3 hours? IIRC, it would have ended up being like a 3 and a half hour movie and that is a bit long.
Chaplin
Better off silent
No, the movie was done and Miramax made the decision to split it up--I guess they used some good convincing--perhaps that allowed QT to edit the films to be a little longer, but I do know at one time he did have a finished product he intended to release at one time.
Just saw this movie...wow, so much blood, so awesome.
So many great parts...the stare down between Lui and Uma...just amazing. The sword fighting, the writing....I just loved it.
And the end...wow, nice hook for next time! Better than Matrix Reloaded by 100 times!
Uma ruled, she was perfect for this role. In fact, everyone so far seems perfect for their roles.
Bring on Volume 2.
Mike
So many great parts...the stare down between Lui and Uma...just amazing. The sword fighting, the writing....I just loved it.
And the end...wow, nice hook for next time! Better than Matrix Reloaded by 100 times!
Uma ruled, she was perfect for this role. In fact, everyone so far seems perfect for their roles.
Bring on Volume 2.
Mike
Chaplin
Better off silent
That was SO Sergio Leone and The Good, The Bad and the Ugly.
OMG, I found a catholic review of Kill Bill
Wow, talk about missing the point!!
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Kill Bill -- Vol. 1
By David DiCerto
Catholic News Service
NEW YORK (CNS) -- Director Quentin Tarantino's ultraviolent new film, his first in six years, "Kill Bill -- Vol. 1" (Miramax), opens with the old proverb, "Revenge is a dish best served cold." After sitting through the flick's 90 minutes of unabated carnage, one would agree a more fitting maxim would have read, "This movie is a dish best not served."
Part one of what is essentially one long story split into two films, "Kill Bill" is a bloody tale about an enigmatic former assassin, known only as "the Bride" (Uma Thurman), who returns from near-death to exact revenge on her would-be killers. The curtain rises on this sanguinary saga in an El Paso, Texas, chapel, where the Bride is gunned down in cold blood, along with her unborn child and members of her wedding party, and left for dead.
From here, the nonlinear narrative -- which is divided into five "chapters" with titles like "The Blood Splattered Bride" -- begins to jump back and forth in time. It is revealed that Thurman's femme fatale had been betrayed by the very same elite hit squad who had once employed her services, "The Deadly Viper Assassination Squad" or DiVAS, headed by a shadowy impresario -- the eponymous Bill (played by former 1970's TV icon David Carradine, whose face is never seen in the film).
After awaking from a four-year coma, the Bride vows to hunt down and kill the remaining DiVAS -- each operating under a serpentine code name. After compiling a to-do-in list and making a pit stop in Okinawa to pick up a proper death-dealing blade from a revered samurai swordsmith (played by '70s martial arts veteran Sonny Chiba), the Bride embarks on a globe-trotting slice-and-dice tour, including a quick catfight in Pasadena, Calif., against Vernita Green, aka Copperhead (Vivica A. Fox). The knock-down, drag-out estrogen-match ends by the Bride hurling a butcher's knife into her foe's chest -- an act which Tarantino distastefully has Green's young daughter witness.
The Bride then proceeds to hack her way through the threadbare narrative to a Tokyo nightclub, the site of the film's climactic bloodbath, which pits Thurman's she-devil against the venomous Yakuza hellcat, O-Ren Ishii, aka Cottonmouth (Lucy Liu). But before she can go one-on-one with her prey, the Bride must first dispatch O-Ren's pig-tailed teenybopper terror, GoGo (Chiaki Kuriyama), as well as her Kato-clad shock squad, the Crazy 88s, in an over-the-top martial arts free-for-all that makes Keanu Reeves' violent brawl in "The Matrix Reloaded" seem about as tame as a Boy Scout jamboree. The Bride continues down her road to revenge in "Kill Bill -- Vol. 2," which is slated to hit theatres in February.
Unfortunately, while meticulous planning was put into the choreography of the action sequences, little consideration was given to the moral dimensions of the balletic butchery -- which includes assorted blood-squirting limbs and decapitations and a graphically violent animated sequence. The pervasive ugliness of the tedious mayhem cannot be masked by the visual finesse with which it is filmed.
The exploitative violence which saturates every frame of "Kill Bill" is gratuitous, glamorized and, ultimately, pointless. More disturbing, however, is the glee Tarantino seems to take in dismembering his attractive cast or covering them in blood -- each "slash" and "squish" punctuated by a snappy zinger like a rim shot after a punch line. This sadistically perverse sense of humor reaches its narrative nadir in a scene involving a twisted hospital orderly pimping a comatose Thurman to a sexually deviant "customer." If this is what took six years to be inspired, forget Bill -- kill the muse.
In the opening scene Bill looms -- unseen except for his hands -- over a bloodied Uma Thurman. As he prepares to shoot her point-blank, he explains with cold-blooded callousness that, since he still has feelings for her, killing her is not an act of sadism but one of masochism -- as is watching this film.
Due to excessive graphic violence and twisted sexual references, as well as much rough and crude language and profanity, the USCCB Office for Film & Broadcasting classification is O -- morally offensive. The Motion Picture Association of America rating is R -- restricted.
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DiCerto is on the staff of the Office for Film & Broadcasting of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.
END
Wow, talk about missing the point!!
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Kill Bill -- Vol. 1
By David DiCerto
Catholic News Service
NEW YORK (CNS) -- Director Quentin Tarantino's ultraviolent new film, his first in six years, "Kill Bill -- Vol. 1" (Miramax), opens with the old proverb, "Revenge is a dish best served cold." After sitting through the flick's 90 minutes of unabated carnage, one would agree a more fitting maxim would have read, "This movie is a dish best not served."
Part one of what is essentially one long story split into two films, "Kill Bill" is a bloody tale about an enigmatic former assassin, known only as "the Bride" (Uma Thurman), who returns from near-death to exact revenge on her would-be killers. The curtain rises on this sanguinary saga in an El Paso, Texas, chapel, where the Bride is gunned down in cold blood, along with her unborn child and members of her wedding party, and left for dead.
From here, the nonlinear narrative -- which is divided into five "chapters" with titles like "The Blood Splattered Bride" -- begins to jump back and forth in time. It is revealed that Thurman's femme fatale had been betrayed by the very same elite hit squad who had once employed her services, "The Deadly Viper Assassination Squad" or DiVAS, headed by a shadowy impresario -- the eponymous Bill (played by former 1970's TV icon David Carradine, whose face is never seen in the film).
After awaking from a four-year coma, the Bride vows to hunt down and kill the remaining DiVAS -- each operating under a serpentine code name. After compiling a to-do-in list and making a pit stop in Okinawa to pick up a proper death-dealing blade from a revered samurai swordsmith (played by '70s martial arts veteran Sonny Chiba), the Bride embarks on a globe-trotting slice-and-dice tour, including a quick catfight in Pasadena, Calif., against Vernita Green, aka Copperhead (Vivica A. Fox). The knock-down, drag-out estrogen-match ends by the Bride hurling a butcher's knife into her foe's chest -- an act which Tarantino distastefully has Green's young daughter witness.
The Bride then proceeds to hack her way through the threadbare narrative to a Tokyo nightclub, the site of the film's climactic bloodbath, which pits Thurman's she-devil against the venomous Yakuza hellcat, O-Ren Ishii, aka Cottonmouth (Lucy Liu). But before she can go one-on-one with her prey, the Bride must first dispatch O-Ren's pig-tailed teenybopper terror, GoGo (Chiaki Kuriyama), as well as her Kato-clad shock squad, the Crazy 88s, in an over-the-top martial arts free-for-all that makes Keanu Reeves' violent brawl in "The Matrix Reloaded" seem about as tame as a Boy Scout jamboree. The Bride continues down her road to revenge in "Kill Bill -- Vol. 2," which is slated to hit theatres in February.
Unfortunately, while meticulous planning was put into the choreography of the action sequences, little consideration was given to the moral dimensions of the balletic butchery -- which includes assorted blood-squirting limbs and decapitations and a graphically violent animated sequence. The pervasive ugliness of the tedious mayhem cannot be masked by the visual finesse with which it is filmed.
The exploitative violence which saturates every frame of "Kill Bill" is gratuitous, glamorized and, ultimately, pointless. More disturbing, however, is the glee Tarantino seems to take in dismembering his attractive cast or covering them in blood -- each "slash" and "squish" punctuated by a snappy zinger like a rim shot after a punch line. This sadistically perverse sense of humor reaches its narrative nadir in a scene involving a twisted hospital orderly pimping a comatose Thurman to a sexually deviant "customer." If this is what took six years to be inspired, forget Bill -- kill the muse.
In the opening scene Bill looms -- unseen except for his hands -- over a bloodied Uma Thurman. As he prepares to shoot her point-blank, he explains with cold-blooded callousness that, since he still has feelings for her, killing her is not an act of sadism but one of masochism -- as is watching this film.
Due to excessive graphic violence and twisted sexual references, as well as much rough and crude language and profanity, the USCCB Office for Film & Broadcasting classification is O -- morally offensive. The Motion Picture Association of America rating is R -- restricted.
- - -
DiCerto is on the staff of the Office for Film & Broadcasting of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.
END
Chaplin
Better off silent
Is this really surprising? Do you think the reviewer went into the film actually expecting Tarantino to have a morally and politically correct film? He never has, and he probably never will.
I wonder if the guy actually saw the movie--all that stuff can be determined from reading OTHER reviews of the film.
I wonder if the guy actually saw the movie--all that stuff can be determined from reading OTHER reviews of the film.
