Kirk Cousins visiting Vikings first

[HeHasRosen]

In hindsight I love Cousins didn't sign with the Cards he is mediocre and would have stopped them from getting Rosen, the contract is too big, Rosen I think can easily have Cousins skill set. It seemed dark when the Cards were turned down, but now I feel the Vikes can have em, so glad Cards didn't get Cousins

I agree 100% Rosen will be just as good if not better than Cousins. And hes on a rookie deal. We can load up on talent in the next couple years and really make a run at this. Just have to protect him. Also look for Fitz to hang around a few more years. It will be 2 hard for him to walk away if we start looking like a contender.

 

[Solar7]

In hindsight I love Cousins didn't sign with the Cards he is mediocre and would have stopped them from getting Rosen, the contract is too big, Rosen I think can easily have Cousins skill set. It seemed dark when the Cards were turned down, but now I feel the Vikes can have em, so glad Cards didn't get Cousins

I love the Rosen pick but the dude has to prove it first. We'll be happy with Rosen if he puts up 75% of Cousins' numbers.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

I love the Rosen pick but the dude has to prove it first. We'll be happy with Rosen if he puts up 75% of Cousins' numbers.

He will Cousins isn't anything special

 

[Jetstream Green]

I love the Rosen pick but the dude has to prove it first. We'll be happy with Rosen if he puts up 75% of Cousins' numbers.

Screw those Cousins' numbers. Stats win you nada. There is only one thing I want from Rosen and it's one thing he can deliver which I still do not think Cousin can, clutch wins and championships... and you better agree Solar, even if you still have Cousins man love, because Rosen is a Cardinal lol

 

[Solar7]

Screw those Cousins' numbers. Stats win you nada. There is only one thing I want from Rosen and it's one thing he can deliver which I still do not think Cousin can, clutch wins and championships... and you better agree Solar, even if you still have Cousins man love, because Rosen is a Cardinal lol

I think the game is bigger than any one player, to be honest. For as much as Aaron Rodgers is "the dude," he has brought GB exactly one championship. And I'm not so sure he brings them another. He's 34 with a surgically repaired collarbone, and that team is about to be in deep trouble paying him the most of any player in NFL history.

I like the odds for Cousins to match Rodgers in championships, especially given his current roster.

All that aside, I love the Rosen pick, but I'm not going to say there is anything he can do that Kirk "can't," given that he hasn't thrown an NFL football, and the other guy has been throwing up top 5 statistical seasons on the back of horrible rosters.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I think the game is bigger than any one player, to be honest. For as much as Aaron Rodgers is "the dude," he has brought GB exactly one championship. And I'm not so sure he brings them another. He's 34 with a surgically repaired collarbone, and that team is about to be in deep trouble paying him the most of any player in NFL history.

I like the odds for Cousins to match Rodgers in championships, especially given his current roster.

All that aside, I love the Rosen pick, but I'm not going to say there is anything he can do that Kirk "can't," given that he hasn't thrown an NFL football, and the other guy has been throwing up top 5 statistical seasons on the back of horrible rosters.

Green Bay has pretty much given Rodgers crap to play with most of his career. For as much kudos as Ted Thompson has gotten, when Rodgers doesn't play, that team is a bottom tier team in the NFL. Look at the Cardinals with BLAINE GABBERT starting and they looked like a much better team than the Packers did with their back up QB.

Green Bay consistently has a horrible defense and running game. Year after year they throw draft capital at fixing those problems. That points to poopy player evaluation in my estimation.

 

[CFLredzoned]

There's alot of talk about why couldn't Rosen lead UCLA to a championship or just more wins? And at first, I was concerned about that. Then I heard that his high school team won the national championship and I felt aot better about it. There's tens of thousands of high schools in the country. So to be the QB of the one team out of thousands that came out on top has to say something about him.

 

[Solar7]

Green Bay has pretty much given Rodgers crap to play with most of his career. For as much kudos as Ted Thompson has gotten, when Rodgers doesn't play, that team is a bottom tier team in the NFL. Look at the Cardinals with BLAINE GABBERT starting and they looked like a much better team than the Packers did with their back up QB.

Green Bay consistently has a horrible defense and running game. Year after year they throw draft capital at fixing those problems. That points to ****** player evaluation in my estimation.

Yep. Ultimately there's definitely issues there, but Rodgers inherently creates some issues there based on how much he's paid. I think that team has cash flow issues.

Regardless, the Cardinals better remain aggressive over the coming years... this division is not going to be easy to win given the young talent at QB that all four teams have. Our window might be best in a year or two when Goff & Gurley start taking up chunks of that team's cap.

 

[splitsecond]

Green Bay has pretty much given Rodgers crap to play with most of his career. For as much kudos as Ted Thompson has gotten, when Rodgers doesn't play, that team is a bottom tier team in the NFL. Look at the Cardinals with BLAINE GABBERT starting and they looked like a much better team than the Packers did with their back up QB.

Green Bay consistently has a horrible defense and running game. Year after year they throw draft capital at fixing those problems. That points to ****** player evaluation in my estimation.

All true, but I do think that you have to at least give Blaine credit for being better than Brett Hundley.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I think the game is bigger than any one player, to be honest. For as much as Aaron Rodgers is "the dude," he has brought GB exactly one championship. And I'm not so sure he brings them another. He's 34 with a surgically repaired collarbone, and that team is about to be in deep trouble paying him the most of any player in NFL history.

I like the odds for Cousins to match Rodgers in championships, especially given his current roster.

All that aside, I love the Rosen pick, but I'm not going to say there is anything he can do that Kirk "can't," given that he hasn't thrown an NFL football, and the other guy has been throwing up top 5 statistical seasons on the back of horrible rosters.

I will because he has thrown a pass before, though not in the NFL, and his mechanics are far superior to Cousins. Seldom does one throw with such form and fail once they get into the pros unless injuries derail them. Now people do fail if all they have is arm strength like Allen without mechanics and the ability to throw a WR open, something Rosen and Cousins both have as did Palmer and to a large degree Warner. Cousins' mechanics are far superior to Allen. I see average mechanics from Darnold and he could end up no better than Sanchez. Lauletta and Rudolph have nice mechanics, though they are not close to Rosen, but at the very least they will have a career in the NFL. Mayfield I think could have been special but Cleveland will seal his fate. Lamar Jackson, I have no idea because I do not know where his steady progression during his college tenure will tap out in the NFL but his athletic ability still might afford him a outside shot to do something special for a small span of glory if he is unable to develop. I find what happens next with all these guys to be just the beginning of what will be great discussion and a template for judging QBs in the future due to the wide range of possibilities in this draft class

 

[RON_IN_OC]

There's alot of talk about why couldn't Rosen lead UCLA to a championship or just more wins? And at first, I was concerned about that. Then I heard that his high school team won the national championship and I felt aot better about it. There's tens of thousands of high schools in the country. So to be the QB of the one team out of thousands that came out on top has to say something about him.

Doesn't concern me at all. Even Peyton Manning couldn't win a college championship...but the year after he graduates, Tee Martin leads Tenn to one.

 

[Solar7]

I will because he has thrown a pass before, though not in the NFL, and his mechanics are far superior to Cousins. Seldom does one throw with such form and fail once they get into the pros unless injuries derail them. Now people do fail if all they have is arm strength like Allen without mechanics and the ability to throw a WR open, something Rosen and Cousins both have as did Palmer and to a large degree Warner. Cousins' mechanics are far superior to Allen. I see average mechanics from Darnold and he could end up no better than Sanchez. Lauletta and Rudolph have nice mechanics, though they are not close to Rosen, but at the very least they will have a career in the NFL. Mayfield I think could have been special but Cleveland will seal his fate. Lamar Jackson, I have no idea because I do not know where his steady progression during his college tenure will tap out in the NFL but his athletic ability still might afford him a outside shot to do something special for a small span of glory if he is unable to develop. I find what happens next with all these guys to be just the beginning of what will be great discussion and a template for judging QBs in the future due to the wide range of possibilities in this draft class

Attitude and preparation are just as important as mechanics. Does Rosen draw the respect of his teammates? Does he have the desire to be great?

Again, I'll agree with you in that I think that answer is yes, but the rest is yet to be seen. Kirk Cousins has proven that he does, at least enough to be awarded with the highest guaranteed contract of all time.

 

[Krangodnzr]

There's alot of talk about why couldn't Rosen lead UCLA to a championship or just more wins? And at first, I was concerned about that. Then I heard that his high school team won the national championship and I felt aot better about it. There's tens of thousands of high schools in the country. So to be the QB of the one team out of thousands that came out on top has to say something about him.

Mora is a wretched coach.

 

[DVontel]

Attitude and preparation are just as important as mechanics. Does Rosen draw the respect of his teammates? Does he have the desire to be great?

Again, I'll agree with you in that I think that answer is yes, but the rest is yet to be seen. Kirk Cousins has proven that he does, at least enough to be awarded with the highest guaranteed contract of all time.

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[Solar7]

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At the time. Now eclipsed by Matt Ryan, but we're only a few days removed from Cousins being at the top of that list.

 

[moklerman]

Cousins sure is a polarizing figure. I don't understand why he is so underappreciated. Not just any QB could do what he's done in Washington or RGIII would have done it. Maybe Cousins is a product of the system(s) he's been in but it's not like he's inherited the '80's 49ers to work with or the GSOT Rams. 48 straight starts, 4,000+ yards average, 30 total TD's each year...dude's been pretty good for a while now and hasn't had a particularly good team around him.