I didn't apologize. Don't mock folks smarty
Kliff is THE DUMBEST coach in the NFL
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This really isn’t that hard to understand.
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How about you move to Easter Island and never, ever post here again
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Oh my lol
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Why are all our routes short of the first down line?
We seem to run these all the time
Need 6 throw for 3
Need 9 throw for 2
Part of it is KK and part of it is KM
We seem to run these all the time
Need 6 throw for 3
Need 9 throw for 2
Part of it is KK and part of it is KM
And it also seems to just be be offensive philosophies by these coaches these days. It drives me batcrap crazy.
Why are people blaming Keim? He provided a good roster that started 7-0.
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Who’s the guy that hired the HC & DC that everyone continuously & rightfully slander?
Who’s the guy that relied heavily on often injured vets like Watt, Alford, etc?
Who’s the guy that drafted a ILB that you, I, & a few others that rightfully criticize over a franchise tackle in the top 10?
Who’s the guy that drafted ANOTHER ILB in the first round that apparently can’t get no PT?
Who’s the guy that continuously ignore using premium picks on OL/DL?
We haven’t made the playoffs since 2015, but the GM has been the same, not the coaching staff. Luckily for him I guess, we’re going backdoor our way into this one.
You’re partly right, though. Why blame Keim? When the blame should go to his boss who oversees all of this. Bidwill is a clown if he’s comfortable with this. The biggest clown.
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variety of things. A few weeks ago Kliff's agent leaks a report that he's the top candidate at OU to try and get a contract extension. Kliff had no comment and the Cards completely ignored the report and did nothing, and OU hired someone else. I do wonder did that send a message to Kliff and the team that even at that point they were not sold enough to give him an extension?
On the we can't extend Murray, you basically have to. As Watt himself said Murray is the marketing tool the Cards have to attract other players. Maybe the last few games have changed that I don't know but you are not going to attract key free agents to sign here if they think you are not sold on Kyler Murray as your QB and you have no plan B. Much easier to hire a new coach.
I think the reason Kliff didn't challenge the spot on the Wentz run was twofold, the way the game had gone to then he couldn't be sure it was going to be overturned even though it was a bad spot. Two I think he figured they might just go for it on 4th down and get it with inches to go so he didn't want to use a challenge if it didn't guarantee they punted. They were at their own 42 so would have been risky but Reich loves to do that and it was such short yardage they might have gone. I also think of course he was feeling like an idiot for challenging the earlier one that was obviously a bad challenge. My guess is if we challenged it they overturn it and Reich probably ultimately punts knowing he gets the ball to start the 2nd half and doesn't want to give the Cards the ball almost in FG range if they somehow don't get it.
Like I said last night I think he has to get into the playoffs and win two or he should be fired. When you get a total collapse like this the coach is ultimately to blame
On the we can't extend Murray, you basically have to. As Watt himself said Murray is the marketing tool the Cards have to attract other players. Maybe the last few games have changed that I don't know but you are not going to attract key free agents to sign here if they think you are not sold on Kyler Murray as your QB and you have no plan B. Much easier to hire a new coach.
I think the reason Kliff didn't challenge the spot on the Wentz run was twofold, the way the game had gone to then he couldn't be sure it was going to be overturned even though it was a bad spot. Two I think he figured they might just go for it on 4th down and get it with inches to go so he didn't want to use a challenge if it didn't guarantee they punted. They were at their own 42 so would have been risky but Reich loves to do that and it was such short yardage they might have gone. I also think of course he was feeling like an idiot for challenging the earlier one that was obviously a bad challenge. My guess is if we challenged it they overturn it and Reich probably ultimately punts knowing he gets the ball to start the 2nd half and doesn't want to give the Cards the ball almost in FG range if they somehow don't get it.
Like I said last night I think he has to get into the playoffs and win two or he should be fired. When you get a total collapse like this the coach is ultimately to blame
This is revisionism. 4 games ago people were hailing what a great job he did this off season.
It's not his fault Kliff can't adjust or Vance won't play Collins.
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The Bidwills don’t normally do those kind of contract decisions mid season, so I’m sure there was some communication of that with Kliff. Otherwise, Whisenhunt would’ve been fired after 58-0 and Wilks after the Chargers game. At the same time, I don’t think OU was even a serious option. Their 247 insiders were quick to shut that rumor down IIRC.
As for Murray, they don’t have to do anything this offseason; and frankly, he doesn’t deserve it. His fifth-year option went up to $29mil and we have the tag to use, so there’s no urgency to do anything. In fact, it’d be another Keim-Time blunder to give a $400mil contract to a QB who only plays like a $400mil QB 40% of the season. And while I get the notion of attracting FAs to Arizona, that’s a hell of a price tag to do for *maybe* one mid-level guy who could easily be found in the draft.
The only change I make to Kyler’s status this offseason is to go from making him untradeadable to answering the phone and listening if other teams call
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Revisionism? Those were legitimate concerns before the season.
It’s his fault he hired the both of them single-handily. Is it not?
I take it you want to keep Keim?
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That was right in front of us. Ertz was wide open running across the field but K1 only decided to throw it to him when 3 defenders were around him in the endzone. Ugh.
No I don't but this isn't Keims issue. Keim did his job this year. This is on players and coaches.
More than anyone (as much as I've blamed Kliff) this is Kyler's fault.
He's lost 4 of his last 5 and in those 4 games his passer rating has been about 73. In the games he's won it was 125. His comp % has dropped from 75% to 62%.
Don't need to look far really to see why we suddenly suck.
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Stop saying Kliffy is dumb. Putting Cristiano Ronaldo under Center & running the ball, on the first play, then immediately abandoning it was BOSS-level trolling of Air Raid criticism.
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How did Keim do his job? He let our best, most impactful young player on the defense walk for a 1 year deal. His big ticket signing was on a guy who can’t stay healthy. His other big ticket was on a WR who looks like he doesn’t really care about football. He “fixed” the kicker spot by signing one mediocre guy to replace another. His draft picks have been almost completely busts. His goal was to go out and get leaders and failed. He went another year with his handpicked DC who isn’t all that.
He made two good trades to get Ertz and Hudson and some good 1 year cheap pick ups, but He established no foundation for the future because anyone we do have that played well this year will be a FA and didnt sign any of them to an extension. In our ALL IN off-season, it looks like we MIGHT get a wild card loss and more questions than answers for the future.
Overall, in a make it or break it year we’re looking at an immediate return of okay but bleak for the future. That’s a solid C grade, as far as I’m concerned.
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What job is that? This is most certainly a Keim issue as it is Kliff & Kyler. We’re still weak where games are won most, the trenches. The trenches have been weak before the Kliff & Kyler era.
I’ve seen you slander our lack of pass rush. I wonder why we lack at it so much? Is it because Keim has drafted only ONE EDGE or IDL since he was hired? With that one having character concerns on top of being an underachiever in college. Oh, that’s right, we drafted another one, but of course he was stupidly drafted as a ILB & once he moved to EDGE & started flourishing, the GM refused to resign him.
Kyler playing like ass & Kliff coaching like ass does not prevent Keim general-managing like ass.
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I guess my point is the Cards have to make it clear Kyler is the guy, or if he's not as you said open to trade. They can't expect to recruit free agents without making a commitment. My suspicion is unless he finishes the season even worse than he has been of late, they will commit to him because they understand it's important to have something to sell free agents beyond warm(hot) weather
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I think it’s hysterical. We needed this.
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Why? The Cowboys didn’t need to do this with Dak. At the end of the day Money talks. Just need to spend it wisely.
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I think there are some poor play calls every game and that his infatuation with horizontal plays is an anchor. But kliffs real failings are horrendous game management, lack of accountability/discipline, generally not having his team ready to play, and general failure of leadership. That’s how you have so much consistency in late season swoons across LITERALLY EVERY SEASON he’s been a head coach. I mean, there isn’t even a single outlier of positive surge end of season. Not one.
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Lol. Look at his name genius.
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Until a constantly breaking watt broke. A washed AJ Green really showed how undependable he was. Two rbs with injury concerns both missed games with injuries. His 1st and 2nd round picks have done very little to nothing. The cornerback he signed quit before the season. The oft injured philips was . . . injured. He built a talented but fragile house of cards that not surprisingly tumbled.
