Kobe pours in 81!

[D-Dogg]

It was not just Shaq. Malone said it to and Fisher left when shaq went.

people on that team did not like Kobe. Phil Jackson did not like Kobe and he came back because they are paying him 10 mill a year. but its the media polluting people's minds???????? I would bet you that Lamar Odem cant wait to get out of la la land.

And the only reason Kobe has no talent on the roster is because of Kobe.

Why would anyone want to go play with Kobe?????? He ran off one of the best Centers in history. you think someone will want to go to LA so they can listen to Kobe??? The lakers will play around the 500 for the next few years and then mabey Kobe will wake up and not be so selfish, or the lakers will trade him.

Please do not tell me that Kobe cares about winning. If he did he would have shut his mouth a long time ago and won titles for a couple of more years before the big fella hung it up.

This is what Kobe wants. Live with it

Ooooh, how clueless you are.

1. Malone liked Kobe more than Shaq because they had similar work ethic. In fact, Malone was going to come back to the Lakers, until he made an inappropriate comment about Kobe's wife, to her, and Kobe got angry at him for it.

2. Fisher and Kobe are good friends, and he left because the Lakers wouldn't pay him the overpaid salary Golden State would. Fox is friends with Kobe, Eddie Jones great friends, etc. etc.

3. Phil Jackson doesn't need 10 million a year, and he doesn't come places where he doesn't think he can win again.

4. Shaq was a Jerry Buss decision, and look at Shaq now. Buss didn't want to give a lazy, aging center 27 million a year long term. Especially one who yelled at the owner "Pay me MF'er" after a block in a preseason game. Kobe and Shaq did NOT get along, because Shaq had no desire from Kobe's standpoint, and because Shaq doesn't like to defer.

5. Kobe talked one time to the media about Shaq. Shaq sniped at Kobe for 8 years. If you knew 1/10th the history of Kobe and Shaq, you'd punch Shaq for Kobe. Dude, you are so damn clueless about everything concerning the Lakers, and regurgitate media bias and B.S.

6. Mad Game by Roland Lazenby. Read it. The Show by Roland Lazenby, Read it. If you don't want to, fine. But don't act like you know one tiny thing about the Lakers and spout erroneous myths like you just did.

 

[LakeShowMan]

I would like to hear Kobe's thoughts about getting a couple of talented players to help him out. He wants to do everything by himself, if not, atleast half of that is true. If you think Kobe would sacrifice his stats and be happy, to get another star in the lakers to help them win another ring... then you dont know much about the guy.

He already has 3 rings, he clearly didnt want another ring when he decided to alienate his star team mates back a couple of seasons ago. He is loving his situation right now, shoot as much as he can because he can get away with it, i mean HE HAS to shoot this much for his team to even have a chance, a player like Kobe loves that situation.

I may be a homer, but I disagree with. Kobe would love to have another great player on his team. The issue between him and Shaq were mostly because their levels of disire were so out of whack that they couldn't co-exist.

Kobe could not stand the fact that Shaq didn't always stay in great shape, and only picked his spots to give maximum effort. That is part of the reason that Shaq has hit a wall lately and is starting the downside of his career.

The funny thing is everyone compares Kobe to Jordan, but I bet you anything that Jordan would have developed the exact same feelings for Shaq if he played with him too. Guys that are that driven can't stand playing with people that don't seem to care as much as they do.

 

[D-Dogg]

I would like to hear Kobe's thoughts about getting a couple of talented players to help him out. He wants to do everything by himself, if not, atleast half of that is true. If you think Kobe would sacrifice his stats and be happy, to get another star in the lakers to help them win another ring... then you dont know much about the guy.

He already has 3 rings, he clearly didnt want another ring when he decided to alienate his star team mates back a couple of seasons ago. He is loving his situation right now, shoot as much as he can because he can get away with it, i mean HE HAS to shoot this much for his team to even have a chance, a player like Kobe loves that situation.

Yawn. Haterade is a flooooowin'.

 

[SactownSunsFan]

Actually, I was referencing I think a Austin Powers quote when he was talking about carnies: 'Small hands, smells sort of like cabbage'. I guess I shouldn't quit my day job.

Ahh, yes. Of course. I thought you were refering to George Muresan cologne.

"Is that cabbage, George?"
"Yes, chicks dig it!"

 

[Renz]

Ahh, yes. Of course. I thought you were refering to George Muresan cologne.

"Is that cabbage, George?"
"Yes, chicks dig it!"

 

[LakeShowMan]

Ahh, yes. Of course. I thought you were refering to George Muresan cologne.

"Is that cabbage, George?"
"Yes, chicks dig it!"

Forgot about that. Thats way funnier then mine. I would like to exsponge all record of my previous description.

 

[haverford]

Ahh, yes. Of course. I thought you were refering to George Muresan cologne.

"Is that cabbage, George?"
"Yes, chicks dig it!"

"Works sixty percent of the time, ALL the time."

 

[D-Dogg]

"Works sixty percent of the time, ALL the time."

I'll be honest, that smells like pure gasoline.

 

[Chaplin]

It isn't? Remember, that is the franchise that broke him. I'm not assuming he can't be saved after escaping that rathole.

And it ISN'T like Washington doesn't have a track record of releasing players who turn out to be pretty good.

So now you're blaming the Wizards for Kwame's poor performance? Come on now. You don't think there is a decent chance that the guy just isn't a good NBA player?

 

[Chaplin]

Did all these quotes come straight from the Kobe Bryant Hater Handbook, or are you just paraphrasing?

At least you don't let reality get in the way of your blind hatred. Good for you.

Of course, there's a certain amount of fact in saying that the team is basicaly run by Kobe. You can tout Phil all you'd like, but Buss proved it, what Kobe wants, Kobe gets. How many top-tiered players would like to play in that kind of situation?

 

[Chaplin]

I would like to hear Kobe's thoughts about getting a couple of talented players to help him out. He wants to do everything by himself, if not, atleast half of that is true. If you think Kobe would sacrifice his stats and be happy, to get another star in the lakers to help them win another ring... then you dont know much about the guy.

He already has 3 rings, he clearly didnt want another ring when he decided to alienate his star team mates back a couple of seasons ago. He is loving his situation right now, shoot as much as he can because he can get away with it, i mean HE HAS to shoot this much for his team to even have a chance, a player like Kobe loves that situation.

Disagree there. I still think Kobe wants that ring. I think the difference, though, is that he wants to get it all by himself. And I think he believes he can. And THAT is misguided, IMO.

 

[LakeShowMan]

Disagree there. I still think Kobe wants that ring. I think the difference, though, is that he wants to get it all by himself. And I think he believes he can. And THAT is misguided, IMO.

Agreed. If Kobe has one trait that is a strength but can be considered a fault is that his supreme confidence can be hinderance because he believes he can accomplish something all by himself. Of course that same trait is what makes him fearless at the end of games. If that makes sense.

 

[newfan101]

Disagree there. I still think Kobe wants that ring. I think the difference, though, is that he wants to get it all by himself. And I think he believes he can. And THAT is misguided, IMO.

Well said. I completely agree.

 

[D-Dogg]

So now you're blaming the Wizards for Kwame's poor performance? Come on now. You don't think there is a decent chance that the guy just isn't a good NBA player?

I'm happy with what we have from Kwame so far. But I got what I expected, a rough project that had little support from an inept franchise, and that was mentally abused by his childhood idol. A guy who was shoved out right away, and asked to do too much, with no coaching.

Take that experience, and look at the way that Andrew Bynum is being brought along. Polar opposites. We bring in Kareem to tutor Bynum (and Mihm and Kwame). Phil carefully selects Bynum's minutes. Kareem teaches him things that you don't learn in H.S., but the NBA expects you to already know. That's a good situation. Having your childhood idol call you a flaming [bundle of sticks] sure doesn't sound supportive like the Bynum experience. And yeah, that's Washington's fault.

Kwame hustles on D, gets great position and has good footwork. Is scared to shoot, and hasn't learned the Tri yet, oh, and he's 23. But I like where he's going, and I'm ok where he is.

 

[LakeShowMan]

I'm happy with what we have from Kwame so far. But I got what I expected, a rough project that had little support from an inept franchise, and that was mentally abused by his childhood idol. A guy who was shoved out right away, and asked to do too much, with no coaching.

Take that experience, and look at the way that Andrew Bynum is being brought along. Polar opposites. We bring in Kareem to tutor Bynum (and Mihm and Kwame). Phil carefully selects Bynum's minutes. Kareem teaches him things that you don't learn in H.S., but the NBA expects you to already know. That's a good situation. Having your childhood idol call you a flaming [bundle of sticks] sure doesn't sound supportive like the Bynum experience. And yeah, that's Washington's fault.

Kwame hustles on D, gets great position and has good footwork. Is scared to shoot, and hasn't learned the Tri yet. But I like where he's going, and I'm ok where he is.

Every time I watch Kwame as a Laker fan, all I can think about is the scene in Swingers when Vince Vaughn is talking to the main guy and going on about how he is this huge bear with this huge claws and he is just playing with this bunny.

You can see just how physically gifted he is, but for some reason mentally he completely holds himself back from being productive. I am hoping a light comes on soon, but so far it has mostly been like the answering machine scene.

 

[D-Dogg]

Good analogy.

Kobe needs to sit him down with that movie and tell him, "You're so money Kwame, and you don't even know it!"

 

[Chaplin]

Next year at this time, Bynum will have surpassed Kwame. Count on it.

 

[D-Dogg]

Next year at this time, Bynum will have surpassed Kwame. Count on it.

I hope so, but I don't look for that to happen until the following year. And at that point, Kwame should have it figured out. If not, then Bynum will be just fine...I'd like to have both reach their potential though.

 

[Chaplin]

I hope so, but I don't look for that to happen until the following year. And at that point, Kwame should have it figured out. If not, then Bynum will be just fine...I'd like to have both reach their potential though.

We haven't really talked much about Bynum, but I really like the kid. Surprised at his recent minutes--I thought Phil wouldn't use him at all. But I wouldn't have minded him getting drafted by the Suns.

 

[D-Dogg]

We haven't really talked much about Bynum, but I really like the kid. Surprised at his recent minutes--I thought Phil wouldn't use him at all. But I wouldn't have minded him getting drafted by the Suns.

I really like his aggressiveness, with his soft demeanor. I'm excited to see him develop under Kareem's tutelage. I like the Lakers franchise taking the ballsy pick on this guy, one that could backfire but that I don't think will.

It was great watching him get so excited about dunking on Shaq, bouncing up the court and tossing an elbow. Just enthusiasm and excitement. Reminded me of Magic Johnson's sheer love of the game. Kobe loves the game, but he is determined and focused. Magic was just, joyous, for lack of a better word. Bynum seems more on the joyous end of the spectrum...I also loved his non-reaction when Shaq threw the punch/forearm into him. Just backed up and didn't even open his mouth. Calm dude for 18.

 

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[golfcardfan]

Gotta admit it was a great game by kobe. Although as a suns fan can't root for the guy too hard and as a person he obviously rubs people the wrong way. If I were a toronto fan I would be furious that they just let him keep going at some point I am HARD fouling him to send a message, I would not let the guy just keep going at will. Even if someone were to be ejected for a flagrant I would have still not want to be the team on the losing end of history FOUL HIM HARD!!!!!!!! If he were going off on the suns you can bet your ass Raja or Kurt are gonna knock him on his ass a few times, not just gonna let him go to the rim at will.

 

[Chaplin]

Some funny quotes:

What the Mavs, who saw him score 62 against them, were thinking...


"You'd think the Super Bowl would lead 'SportsCenter' tonight. But you know it won't. It can't. Kobe will. He has to." -- Jerry Stackhouse, quoted on ESPN.com

"Imagine if our game had been close." -- Darrell Armstrong, quoted on ESPN.com

"How many assists? He didn't have any against us." -- Keith Van Horn, quoted on ESPN.com

"He took 47 shots?" -- Devin Harris, quoted on ESPN.com. (Ed. note: Kobe took 46 shots)

"I don't think that would be good from a team standpoint." -- Dirk Nowitzki, quoted on ESPN.com when asked if he could top 82

 

[Amare32]

Mavs players still very bitter that Kobe bitchslapped them in 3 quarters It seems.

 

[golfcardfan]

wow that might be the best qoute Dirk has ever given!