Krangs Official Mock Draft

[Krangodnzr]

1. Dewayne Robertson, UK- Not the glamour pick that Suggs would be, but a great pick nonetheless. He is a short squatty, but quick tackle in the Warren Sapp mold, yet he is bigger than Sapp. Instantly improves our defensive line.

2. Tyrone Calico, Middle Tennessee State- I would go with either him or Bryant Johnson here, but I'm enamored more with Calico. He has elite size and speed, and would be a tremendous prospect for Sullivan and Tolbert to work with. A bit of a reach, but come back in 3 years and tell me that.

3. Calvin Pace, Wake Forest- I'm banking that he falls here, and if not, there are plenty of DE/OLB tweeners that we could take instead. Andrew Williams of Miami is another possibility. Pace is not very big (but bigger than Suggs) but has speed and the ability to rush the passer. Initially might only be a pass rush specialist, but who cares.

4. Brett Romberg, Miami- He might last this long, and would be a pretty good pick here. He played very well for Miami last year, and plays with a mean streak. He would instantly give us more depth on the interior line, and is a future starter.

5. Bobby Wade, UofA- He might also not last this long, but if he does I would scooop him up right here. Isn't very fast, nor big, but he has "quicks" and should be an excellent return man and slot receiver.

6. B.J Askew, Michigan- He would give us a HB/FB tweener, and special team specialist. A team player that gives it up for the team, and has really hurt his own stock because of this.

6. Carl Morris, Harvard- Another sleeper pick from an Ivy League School (obviously he is smart). Has good size, at 6'3.

7. Brooks Bollinger, Wisconsin- Some might laugh at this pick, but this kid could really pan out. He is very athletic and was a winner in college. He would give us 3 qb prospects which would make me at least a little happier.

Needs addressed: Pass rush, stopping the run, interior OL depth, receiver, special teams play, and backup qb.

Needs ignored: Cornerback, linebacker (not much of a need), OT depth.

 

[Northern Card]

As a Canadian, I like your choice of fellow Canuck Brett Romberg.

 

[pinnacle]

I would bet mean joe went to miami to look at like 4 d lineman.. andrew williams seems to be the fastest of all of the defensive ends out there and has decent size...never got on the field much and is a project - but we could take him in mid rounds..

I am leaning towards robertson if we stay in the 6th pick and suggs is gone..but if we do take robertson I think we will take a dend/outside linebacker in round 2 (like a peek) and then go receiver in round 3.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by Northern Card
As a Canadian, I like your choice of fellow Canuck Brett Romberg.

Glad to accommodate you!

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by pinnacle
I would bet mean joe went to miami to look at like 4 d lineman.. andrew williams seems to be the fastest of all of the defensive ends out there and has decent size...never got on the field much and is a project - but we could take him in mid rounds..

I am leaning towards robertson if we stay in the 6th pick and suggs is gone..but if we do take robertson I think we will take a dend/outside linebacker in round 2 (like a peek) and then go receiver in round 3.

See I see the value at receiver is the highest in round 1 and 2, and I don't want to miss out. A good DE/OLB pass rusher can be had in round 3-4.

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
See I see the value at receiver is the highest in round 1 and 2, and I don't want to miss out. A good DE/OLB pass rusher can be had in round 3-4.

We dont need a good DE/OLB pass rusher Krang we need a difference maker on defense.

Much moreso than a WR IMO!

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by Shane H
We dont need a good DE/OLB pass rusher Krang we need a difference maker on defense.

Wouldn't that be a difference maker by definition?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Dewayne Robertson would be the "difference maker".

Not many teams would boast two tackles (Bryant and Robertson) that could run 4.7 40s.

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Wouldn't that be a difference maker by definition?

I consider a cant miss talent a difference maker by definition. but of course there is no such thing as cant miss!

Not a late rounder who could be good?

 

[BIGDADDY_REDBIRD]

Good job Krang.. But I for one wish we would not pick a DT at #6. If we trade down then maybe????? I think that for some reason we don't get all out our players on the D-Line. That has alot to do with coaching & our scheme. Marcus Bell is short & squatty but seems to play with his head down alot, coaches should see this & help him to adjust. I think he could really become a better than average player. The fact that we resigned both Tanner & Davis makes me believe that we feel like we're ok at DT though Good Mock though, personally I say NO to a DT in the 1st......jmo

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by bigdaddy_redbird
Good job Krang.. But I for one wish we would not pick a DT at #6. If we trade down then maybe????? I think that for some reason we don't get all out our players on the D-Line. That has alot to do with coaching & our scheme. Marcus Bell is short & squatty but seems to play with his head down alot, coaches should see this & help him to adjust. I think he could really become a better than average player. The fact that we resigned both Tanner & Davis makes me believe that we feel like we're ok at DT though Good Mock though, personally I say NO to a DT in the 1st......jmo

Very valid point.

 

[cardpa]

If Suggs isn't there I would like to see them take Michael Haynes. Maybe a bit of a reach but I would bet he gets 8-12 sacks a year every year and can play the run equally well.

 

[JeffGollin]

Jeff's First Unofficial Mock

The Sporting News Draft Mag is out. Each year they put together a draft board which positions players by round and also indicates their over all rank.

Working within the guidelines that I had to select players who'd (according to the Sporting News War Room) still be available when the Cards picked, this is what I came up with - (War Room ranking listed in parentheses after each player)

1 (#6) Terence Newman CB (8]
2 (#37) Dewayne White DE (58]
3 (#70) Tyrone Callico WR (139) Trust me - he's going earlier.
4 (#102) Kevin Curtis WR (131)
5 (#136) Brett Romberg C (136)
6 (#167) Matt Wilhelm ILB (171)
7 (#202) Sultan McCullough RB (230)

Note - Doing it this way makes the availability of players more objective - i.e. it's the Sporting News' ratings and not mine.

 

[kerouac9]

I disagree, if your assessment of Robertson is correct. We do not need two short, athletic, one-gap DTs. With those two, Vanden-Bosch, and, say Holliday as the "starter" D-line, you're basically playing four small DTs or big DEs, and I don't know a team in the league that plays with that kind of formation. I think you'd be crippling the LB corps, because no one would be able to clog a hole, beacuse they would all get pushed around on run-blocking.

Personnally, I'd rather have them take a CB or WR reach at #6 than to take another one-gap, Sapp-style DT and have to play Tanner or whomever next to him as a "run-stopper."

 

[tigertat]

Robertson isnt a one gap DT. He is over 320 lbs. and excells both at run stopping and breaking down the pocket. Would be a huge improvment over Tanner, Bell, Davis, and Dwyer who are all one dimensional guys. All are ealily replaceable.

Robertson would be the bigger bang for the buck over Johnson(great size sppe combo, but lacks true hands and had very bad workouts), or Newman(who will get torched without a pass rush)

 

[BACH]

According to TSN's draft central both Kennedy and Robertson are good enough to play both one and two-gap schemes, but kerouac9 has a point, since Robertson is a one-gapper good enough to play two-gap and Kennedy is a two-gapper good enough to play one-gap.

Of the ten elite DTs, projected to go in the first two rounds, only Kennedy and 4th rated Sullivan (Georgia) are considered as true two-gap DTs.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by BACH
According to TSN's draft central both Kennedy and Robertson are good enough to play both one and two-gap schemes, but kerouac9 has a point, since Robertson is a one-gapper good enough to play two-gap and Kennedy is a two-gapper good enough to play one-gap.

Of the ten elite DTs, projected to go in the first two rounds, only Kennedy and 4th rated Sullivan (Georgia) are considered as true two-gap DTs.

Robertson has the strength and bulk to pay in a 2 gap, and the speed and athleticism to play in a one gap. A very flexible player.

Kennedy is my least favorite (well not really Joseph is). I will be very disappointed if we draft him.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by kerouac9
I disagree, if your assessment of Robertson is correct. We do not need two short, athletic, one-gap DTs. With those two, Vanden-Bosch, and, say Holliday as the "starter" D-line, you're basically playing four small DTs or big DEs, and I don't know a team in the league that plays with that kind of formation. I think you'd be crippling the LB corps, because no one would be able to clog a hole, beacuse they would all get pushed around on run-blocking.

Personnally, I'd rather have them take a CB or WR reach at #6 than to take another one-gap, Sapp-style DT and have to play Tanner or whomever next to him as a "run-stopper."

Who is the other "short" tackle? Bryant is 6'4.

Robertson is short at 6'2, but that will help him get underneath o-lineman (ala Sapp).

 

[Walter Mitchell]

Krang: Good picks. Robertson is rising quickly up the charts. It wouldn't surprise me if the Cardinals tabbed him, although I have a hunch that if Kennedy is selected in the top five, a DT that Mac likes alot is Kevin Williams of Oklahoma St. This is why it wouldn't be a surprise if the Cardinals trade down, thinking that they can still tab Williams and add another pick.

Tyrone Calico is a super sleeper which is why the Cardinals would most likely have to snag him early in the second round seeing as he will most likely be taken somewhere in round 2. It's possible too that the Raiders who pride themselves in sleeper picks select Calico with one the #32 pick at the end of the first round. WR is a focal point for the Raiders this off-season now that Brown and Rice are getting closer to retiring. WR Bryant Johnson of Penn. St. may even be a better pro than Calico. If both of them are available, and the Cardinals want to draft a WR here, this choice could be difficult. My feeling is that the Cardinals will be hoping to see DE Michael Haynes or DE Corey Redding available at #37, especially if they draft another DT in the first round. If so, perhaps the Cardinals will look for a WR in the third round. The other defensive lineman I like a lot is DT/DE Antonio Garay of Boston College. Garay's combination of strength and quickness is excellent. He's had his problems with injuries which is why he might slide, but he's a first round talent. Garay may still be available in the early portion of round three and at that point he'd be a steal.

I really like Askew and Bollinger as 6th and 7th round picks. I still like FB Brandon Drumm, although I know we disagree (we must have seen different Colorado games because he was a man amongst boys the times I saw him)...Drumm ran a 4.6 at his workout the other day. At his size, wow! Pace may very well be available in Round 4. The scouts are somewhat skeptical of his ability to make an impact in the pros. Another Brandon, WR Brandon Lloyd of Illinois would be an outstanding third round selection if he's on the board. And a QB that everyone seems to be forgetting about who could still be available late in the draft (as well as Bollinger) is Iowa's Brad Banks. Banks was probably the most consistent QB in college football last year. He's only 6'1", but he shifts around extremely well in the pocket to create passing lanes and is an outstanding and smart competitor.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by Walter Mitchell
Krang: Good picks. Robertson is rising quickly up the charts. It wouldn't surprise me if the Cardinals tabbed him, although I have a hunch that if Kennedy is selected in the top five, a DT that Mac likes alot is Kevin Williams of Oklahoma St. This is why it wouldn't be a surprise if the Cardinals trade down, thinking that they can still tab Williams and add another pick.

Tyrone Calico is a super sleeper which is why the Cardinals would most likely have to snag him early in the second round seeing as he will most likely be taken somewhere in round 2. It's possible too that the Raiders who pride themselves in sleeper picks select Calico with one the #32 pick at the end of the first round. WR is a focal point for the Raiders this off-season now that Brown and Rice are getting closer to retiring. WR Bryant Johnson of Penn. St. may even be a better pro than Calico. If both of them are available, and the Cardinals want to draft a WR here, this choice could be difficult. My feeling is that the Cardinals will be hoping to see DE Michael Haynes or DE Corey Redding available at #37, especially if they draft another DT in the first round. If so, perhaps the Cardinals will look for a WR in the third round. The other defensive lineman I like a lot is DT/DE Antonio Garay of Boston College. Garay's combination of strength and quickness is excellent. He's had his problems with injuries which is why he might slide, but he's a first round talent. Garay may still be available in the early portion of round three and at that point he'd be a steal.

I really like Askew and Bollinger as 6th and 7th round picks. I still like FB Brandon Drumm, although I know we disagree (we must have seen different Colorado games because he was a man amongst boys the times I saw him)...Drumm ran a 4.6 at his workout the other day. At his size, wow! Pace may very well be available in Round 4. The scouts are somewhat skeptical of his ability to make an impact in the pros. Another Brandon, WR Brandon Lloyd of Illinois would be an outstanding third round selection if he's on the board. And a QB that everyone seems to be forgetting about who could still be available late in the draft (as well as Bollinger) is Iowa's Brad Banks. Banks was probably the most consistent QB in college football last year. He's only 6'1", but he shifts around extremely well in the pocket to create passing lanes and is an outstanding and smart competitor.

Thanks for your comments!

I would love to see the Cards trade down, but realistically that won't happen, so I think if we stay put Robertson would be the best available defender (moreso than Kennedy or Newman).

I really think that Calico will be gone after early round 2. He has the type of potential that few receivers have. Bryant Johnson is going to be a pretty good pro receiver, and I would be disappointed if we didn't select him with our second if Calico isn't there. But both should be available.

I think that Haynes, after a very good workout, will go in round one. Cory Redding might also, so I think we will have to add an end later (that's why I had us taking Pace). Why did the scouts seem skeptical of Pace, he looked like a monster everytime I watched the Demon Deacons (wakeforest) play? Antonio Garay is another guy I would seriously consider after round 2 also.

Now I don't know much about Drumm, I think it was section 11 that was against him. His workout numbers are very impressive for a fullback, though he weighed in at 220.

Brandon Lloyd doesn't do much for me and his workout numbers weren't great (smaller than I thought he was and slower).

Brad Banks, I wouldn't even consider him since he was under 5'11 ( he was like 5'10 1/2), though on just watching him I was very impressed

 

[red desert]

I believe it was at the combine that Banks came in significantly under 6-feet.

 

[Sandan]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
I would love to see the Cards trade down, but realistically that won't happen, so I think if we stay put Robertson would be the best available defender (moreso than Kennedy or Newman).

I'm glad to see you are learning some respect and I won't have to "trade down" slap you again.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by red desert
I believe it was at the combine that Banks came in significantly under 6-feet.

And at the Pro day, obviously (you know, since he couldn't grow a couple of inches).

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by nidan
I'm glad to see you are learning some respect and I won't have to "trade down" slap you again.

are you saying that none of the first six teams are going to be able to trade down?

should we get a wager going on this?

 

[BuckeyeCardinal]

Great Mock

Best mock I've seen Krang.

The only difference is that I would interject a sleeper at #7.....Bollinger is OK but not a great upgrade over Parsons or McCown.

I also like Pace over White at DE.

For the 6th spot I'd go for another sleeper....don't care for those Michiganders.