Krangs Official Mock Draft

[BACH]

Tyrone Calico
School: Middle Tenn.
Position: WR
Overall: 5.5
NFL Comparison: Danny Farmer, Bengals

TYRONE CALICO MEASURABLES
Height: 6-3 Weight: 223
40-yard dash: 4.34 10-yard dash: 1.57
20-yard shuttle: 4.20 60-yard shuttle: 10.99
Broad jump: 10-7 225 lb. bench:
3-cone drill: 6.72 Vertical jump: 38
Wonderlic: 20-yard dash: 2.45

War Room analysis
Strengths: Has an outstanding combination of size, strength and speed. Is powerful; drives defensive backs off the line. Shows good vertical speed and consistently gets over the top of cornerbacks. Has excellent leaping ability. Is a threat on fade routes and in the red zone. Is a strong runner after the catch and has some elusiveness. Shows a second gear in the open field once he gets going.

Weaknesses: Hands are inconsistent. Route-running skills are marginal. Should be much more polished and productive than he is. Is somewhat of an underachiever. Lacks suddenness on routes and the initial quickness to beat the press. Lacks ideal burst both in and out of his breaks. Will struggle to separate from NFL cornerbacks. Lacks upfield burst after the catch. Takes him a while to hit full speed. Has some trouble on quick-hitters because he lacks soft hands. Doesn't consistently catch on the run and at times struggles to adjust to balls in the air.

Bottom line: Calico offers a great size-speed combination and flashes some big- play ability, but he is too inconsistent, sloppy and unfocused to draft before the fourth round.

Dan Pompei analysis
Is a big receiver with athleticism and speed. Has made strides, but still needs technique work. Is tough and aggressive. Is a willing blocker. Shows inconsistent hands, and doesn't show much of a feel for getting open. Lacks the quickness to separate from defenders.

 

[Krangodnzr]

It funny how one can fall in love with a players workout numbers.

If the Cards do draft him in the second, it would be a huge reach. Pencil in Bryant Johnson instead!

 

[Krangodnzr]

What was the war room's take on Bryant Johnson and Talman Gardner? Thanks for the info Bach!

 

[BACH]

Andre Johnson
School: Miami (FL)
Position: WR
Overall: 8.6
NFL Comparison: David Boston
Positional rankings:

ANDRE JOHNSON MEASURABLES
Height: 6-2 Weight: 224
40-yard dash: 4.37 10-yard dash:
20-yard shuttle: 60-yard shuttle:
Broad jump: 10-9 225 lb. bench:
3-cone drill: Vertical jump: 41
Wonderlic: 20-yard dash:

War Room analysis
Hands: Makes spectacular plays. Catches balls over his head, away from his body and on the run. Is a great leaper; wins most jump-ball battles. Has both the long arms and strong hands to pull the ball away from defenders. Still drops too many catchable balls because he loses focus. Grade: 8.7

Patterns: Also loses focus at times in this area. Needs to study more film. Has trouble setting up defenders and lacks a great feel for soft spots in coverage. Gets away with much because of his natural gifts. Shows great speed and initial burst. Outruns most defensive backs. Consistently stretches the field. Excels at driving defenders off the line. Breaks off his routes with suddenness. Shows great burst out of his breaks. Is a smooth route runner; doesn't waste much motion. If he works on this area more -- both on and off the field –- he could excel at it. Grade: 8.4

Run after catch: Is explosive. Gets immediately upfield after catching on the run. Has breakaway speed. Shows a second gear in the open field. Isn't very elusive and doesn't do much dancing or change of direction, but is a tough runner who lowers shoulders and picks up yards after contact. Also shows good vision and patience. If there are blockers in front of him, he uses them to his advantage. Grade: 8.6

Release: Excels at breaking press coverage. Has terrific initial quickness. Has both the size and strength to overpower most defenders at the point of attack. Is physical and competitive. Shows good upper-body strength. Uses swims and clubs when a defender tries to jam him. Grade: 8.6

Blocking: Is also competitive here. Works to get downfield and uses physical run blocking to set up defenders in the passing game. Gets into many shoving matches and wins most of them. Works to sustain blocks and excels at locking on and driving legs. Grade: 8.7

Bottom line: Johnson, a former college sprint champion, is a big-time NFL prospect because of his pure speed, but he is also strong, physical and fearless in going over the middle. He is still raw and could have used another year at Miami to improve his route-running skills and concentration, but he will still be an early first-round pick.

Dan Pompei analysis
Is the complete package. Has size, speed and strength. Is aggressive and runs good routes and picks up yards after the catch. Can extend the field and catch passes downfield. Makes tough catches, but drops some easy ones. Has the versatility to lineup in different places. Should be able to contribute quickly.
Pompei's WR ranking: No. 2.
Pompei's overall ranking: No. 5.

 

[BACH]

Talman Gardner
School: Florida St.
Position: WR
Overall: 7.0
NFL Comparisoneerless Price
Positional rankings:

TALMAN GARDNER MEASURABLES
Height: 6-0 Weight: 205
40-yard dash: 4.43 10-yard dash: 1.56
20-yard shuttle: 4.41 60-yard shuttle: 11.61
Broad jump: 9-8 225 lb. bench:
3-cone drill: 7.53 Vertical jump: 34
Wonderlic: 20-yard dash: 2.58

War Room analysis
Strengths: Has good size. Has deceptive speed because he gets to top speed quickly. Shows great burst off the line. Breaks the press well. Has great body control. Gets open downfield. Has some big-play ability. Tracks down the ball well. Is a good leaper. Challenges for jump balls. Can catch over his shoulder and away from his frame. Can be acrobatic. Is explosive after the catch because of his footwork, body control and initial quickness.

Weaknesses: Lacks the blazing top-end speed and elite size of a vertical receiver. Route-running skills and hands are inconsistent. Drops very catchable balls at times. Doesn't show good instincts in zone coverage. Tends to disappear in games. Gives an inconsistent effort as a blocker.

Bottom line: Gardner offers good size, great initial quickness and much big-play flair. He is worth a third-round pick because he has the tools to develop into a solid No. 2 receiver with some vertical upside. He still needs to run better routes and show better hands, however, and even then, he may not develop the necessary consistency.

Dan Pompei analysis
Has the legs to get open and the hands to secure the ball. Makes some tough catches, and drops some easy ones. Is considered somewhat of a track guy. Gets in and out of cuts well. Has body control to adjust to passes.
Pompei WR ranking: No. 7.

 

[BACH]

By the way... The War room have Andre Johnson going to the Cards at #6 in their mock draft, because it simply would be too difficult to pass on him given that Boston, Sanders and Jenkins probably won't be returning.

Gardner is projected to be picked by the Panthers in the 2nd.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Thanks again, Bach, but could you post the info for Bryant Johnson, Penn State?

 

[BACH]

Bryant Johnson
School: Penn State
Position: WR
Overall: 7.7
NFL Comparison: Amani Toomer, Giants

BRYANT JOHNSON MEASURABLES
Height: 6-2 Weight: 214
40-yard dash: 4.57 10-yard dash:
20-yard shuttle: 60-yard shuttle:
Broad jump: 0-0 225 lb. bench:
3-cone drill: Vertical jump: 0
Wonderlic: 20-yard dash:

War Room analysis
Hands: Has improved here, as has his concentration and focus. Has long arms and is athletic enough to adjust to poorly thrown balls. Has good leaping ability and can make spectacular catches. Pulls down the ball well over his head and on the run. Grade: 8.2

Patterns: Has great size. Is mostly a possession receiver. Is strong and drives defenders off the line well. Is fearless in going over the middle. Has learned to use size to his advantage. Is fluid in running routes and shows good recognition. Is a big, physical target. Has adequate speed; won't run past many NFL cornerbacks. Isn't much of a deep threat. Has some trouble gaining separation. Grade: 8.0

Run after catch: A tough runner who gains speed as he goes. Plucks well on the run and immediately gets upfield. Shows good body control and flashes some change-of-direction skills. Gets what is available, but not much more. Lacks great burst and elusiveness. Doesn't make many defenders miss in the open field. Takes a while to reach top-end speed. Grade: 7.4

Release: Must win with size and strength, because he lacks great suddenness and initial quickness. Will have more trouble here in the NFL. Won't beat cornerbacks deep if he breaks press, so more of them will challenge him at the line. Grade: 7.5

Blocking: This is a real strength. Shows initial pop at the point of attack. Is competitive and works to get downfield. Takes pride in this facet. Grade: 8.0

Bottom line: Johnson lacks great speed and won’t be much of a vertical threat, but he has the size, leaping ability and hands to create matchup problems in the red zone. Johnson isn’t explosive enough to draft in the first round, but he is a good second-round value because he should develop into a solid No. 2 receiver.

Dan Pompei analysis
Is a physical receiver with strong hands to catch the ball away from his body. Is athletic enough to adjust to the ball. Could run better routes. Hasn't played in a pro-style passing game, and has a lot to learn. Is an unselfish, team-oriented player.
Pompei WR ranking: No. 4.

 

[BACH]

Sure...

And for those of you, who don't know the War Room's grade system:

9 - Franchise Player
8 - Potential Pro Bowler
7 - Could start as a rookie
6 - Eventual starter
5 - Quality back-up
4 - Should make roster
3 - Chance to make roster
2 - Not likely to make roster
1 - Free-agent possibility

 

[JeffGollin]

That Callico Cat

If the Cards do draft him in the second, it would be a huge reach.
One more time - The Cards' second round pick at #37 is tantamount to a very late #1 pick. Callico at #37 would be a reach. But in the third round (think of it as a very late second round pick) Callico might be worth considering.

Whether or not to take him even that high becomes a judgement-call by Sully. The measurables are all there and they're fantastic. But can the kid be coached up?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Re: That Callico Cat

Originally posted by JeffGollin
If the Cards do draft him in the second, it would be a huge reach.
One more time - The Cards' second round pick at #37 is tantamount to a very late #1 pick. Callico at #37 would be a reach. But in the third round (think of it as a very late second round pick) Callico might be worth considering.

Whether or not to take him even that high becomes a judgement-call by Sully. The measurables are all there and they're fantastic. But can the kid be coached up?

That's the questions that I have also.

Boston, with his attitude (I'm finally admitting it ) could be coached by Sully, so I think a humble guy (or at least should be) like Calico should be easy to coach.

From the info that Bach has posted, I might go for Bryant Johnson. He sounds like a bigger, faster Frank Sanders.

 

[BACH]

Re: Re: That Callico Cat

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
From the info that Bach has posted, I might go for Bryant Johnson. He sounds like a bigger, faster Frank Sanders.

With the other needs that we have you could get a good possesion receiver like Aiken early in the 3rd.

Sam Aiken
School: N. Carolina
Position: WR
Overall: 6.7
NFL Comparison: Rod Gardner, Redskins

SAM AIKEN MEASURABLES
Height: 6-1 Weight: 209
40-yard dash: 4.62 10-yard dash: 1.58
20-yard shuttle: 60-yard shuttle:
Broad jump: 10-1 225 lb. bench:
3-cone drill: 7.22 Vertical jump: 39
Wonderlic: 20-yard dash: 2.63

War Room analysis
Strengths: Has good size. Is strong and well built. Is tough to press at the line. Uses strength to his advantage. Is very competitive. Is fearless in going over the middle. Has solid, reliable hands. Catches the ball in traffic and has learned to use his body to shield defenders. Shows good body control and agility. Has adequate leaping ability; can make acrobatic catches. Is a smooth route-runner. Lowers hips and bursts well both in and out of cuts. Is a powerful long strider after the catch. Builds speed as he goes. Is also a strong and efficient run blocker -- one of the best in this receiver class.

Weaknesses: Lack of speed and initial burst are the big concerns. Isn't a vertical threat. Has neither the burst nor acceleration to catch up with the ball in the air. Isn't very elusive or explosive after the catch. Gets caught from behind.

Bottom line: Aiken is very reliable, consistent and competitive, but his lack of vertical speed and big-play ability limits his upside. He can emerge as a solid No. 2 possession-type receiver in the NFL, however, and it would be surprising if a team didn't draft him on the first day.

Dan Pompei analysis
Is a possession receiver who runs great routes and has nice hands. Is a weapon over the middle. Has decent size. Is a willing and able blocker. Isn't a burner, and that could cost him.

 

[Krangodnzr]

See, other than with sleeper guys from small colleges, I generally watch all of the guys that I pick for my mock drafts.

I watched Aiken. I don't really like him much, and I don't think he will be any good at the next level. A good backup, but definitely not starting material. He is much like another UNC Tarheel, Na Brown who lasted a few years with the Eagles...

A Frank Sanders with less ability is my opinion on him. I could be wrong, but only time will tell.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Tyrone Calico

Info I acquired from the Middle Tennesse State Website:

Position: WR
Height: 6-4
Weight: 220 pounds
Previous School: Millington
Hometown: Millington, TN
In the Record Book: Shares the single-game receptions mark with 12 (vs ETSU in 1999) ... Is second all-time in career receptions with 149, third in career receiving yardage with 2,030, and tied for sixth in touchdown receptions with 13 ... His 752 receiving yards in 2000 rank as the sixth highest total in school history ... Calico's 65 receptions as a freshman rank tied for the third highest total in Blue Raider history for a single-season.
Noteworthy: An all-Sun Belt Conference candidate in 2002 ... A panel of sportswriters and broadcasters voted unanimously his catch at Mississippi State (see below for description) as the Best Reception of the Year in 2000 ... Power cleans over 350 pounds, which is one of the top marks on the team ... Has five career 100-yard receiving games ... Began his Blue Raider career on defense at linebacker, but was switched back to his normal position of wide receiver later in the fall of 1998 ... Was a member of the Blue Raider basketball team in 1998 ... Recruited by former coach and current athletic director Boots Donnelly.

2001: Started all 11 games and was tied for second on the team in receptions with 37 ... Also hauled in five touchdown catches to equal his season best ... Hauled in five or more catches in a game four times ... Had a streak of 25 consecutive games with at least one catch come to an end at Louisiana-Lafayette ... Reeled in a season-high six passes for 83 yards in the season opener at Vanderbilt ... Recorded a personal-best 160 yards receiving on five receptions to go along with a career-high three touchdowns against Idaho ... One of his grabs against the Vandals went for a season-long 56 yards ... Also had touchdown receptions against Ole Miss and LSU ... Put together a career-long run of 38 yards in a win over Arkansas State that went for a touchdown ... Shared Team Offensive MVP honors with Wes Counts following the Idaho game.

2000: Played in all 11 games and started in 10 contests ... Was second on the team in receptions with 47 for 752 yards and three touchdowns ... Snared two catches for 50 or more yards (vs Murray State and Maryland) ... Had a career-best 59-yard reception that went for a touchdown against Connecticut ... Registered a season-high eight receptions for a career-best 141 yards against Murray State ... Collected seven receptions for 100 yards at Maryland, while hauling in six catches for 87 yards in the season opener against Illinois ... At Mississippi State, Calico had three catches and two went for touchdowns ... One of his scores against the Bulldogs came from 42 yards out when he snared a pass one-handed on the sideline, split three defenders, and raced to the endzone ... Voted the team's skill player of the week following the Murray State win ... One of seven players to earn 34 of 34 points for ......"Best Conditioned Athlete Award......" during the summer workout program.

1999: Set a Middle Tennessee freshman record with 65 receptions to go along with five touchdowns ... Had four or more catches in a game eight times, including at least one in all 11 ... Ranked 26th in the NCAA in catches per game (5.9) ... Set the school record with 12 receptions against East Tennessee ... Had nine catches each against Arizona and Louisiana Tech, while hauling in seven against Wofford and Central Florida ... Registered two 100-yard receiving games, including a personal-best 131 yards in the win over Wofford ... Collected a 44-yard touchdown pass from Wes Counts against UCF and a 42-yarder versus Wofford.

1998: Took a redshirt year.

Statistics
Receiving Rec. Yds. Avg. LG TD
1999 65 695 10.7 44 5
2000 47 752 16.0 59 3
2001 37 583 15.8 56 5
Total 149 2030 13.6 59 13

MTSU
PASSING YARDAGE............... 1848
RUSHING YARDAGE............... 2504

RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/*
Hicks, Dwone 10 184 1047 36 1011 5.5 11 55 101.1
Lee, ReShard 11 110 665 23 642 5.8 6 29 58.4
Hines, Andrico (QB) 11 150 645 159 486 3.2 10 35 44.2
Calloway, Don 11 39 239 12 227 5.8 2 63 20.6

Top three receivers:

RECEIVING GP No. Yds Avg TD Long Avg/*
-------------------------------------------------
Calico, Tyrone 12 45 606 13.5 4 63 50.5
Youell, David 12 33 383 11.6 0 38 31.9
Hicks, Dwone 10 15 250 16.7 0 69 25.0

Calico was a guy hurt by the school he played at, I wonder what his numbers would have been if he had been at Miami? Probably at least as good as Andre Johnson.

I always said that Boston was a LB playing receiver, but this guy actually was a LB!

 

[MadCardDisease]

Re: Tyrone Calico

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Calico was a guy hurt by the school he played at, I wonder what his numbers would have been if he had been at Miami? Probably at least as good as Andre Johnson.

I always said that Boston was a LB playing receiver, but this guy actually was a LB!

I think the opposite is true, if he was that good he should have absolutely dominated the other teams in his division. His numbers at Middle Tennessee State really are not that impressive. At least not impressive enough to warrent him going the first day of the Draft.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Re: Re: Tyrone Calico

Originally posted by MadCardDisease
I think the opposite is true, if he was that good he should have absolutely dominated the other teams in his division. His numbers at Middle Tennessee State really are not that impressive. At least not impressive enough to warrent him going the first day of the Draft.

I disagree thoroughly. He wasn't thrown the ball much since he was in an option attack. It is a fact in college football, that receivers that play in an option attack don't flourish (as it is a fact that receivers in a Texas Tech spread offense flourish ).

How many catches did Nebraska's leading receiver have?

 

[Houdini]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain


...2. Tyrone Calico, Middle Tennessee State- I would go with either him or Bryant Johnson here, but I'm enamored more with Calico. He has elite size and speed, and would be a tremendous prospect for Sullivan and Tolbert to work with. A bit of a reach, but come back in 3 years and tell me that....

From what I read, Tyrone Calico of Middle Tennessee State, has come so far in such a short time that it wouldn't be surprising if he were the third wide receiver selected because of his size and speed. They compare him to Terrell Owens, who was drafted in the 3rd round.

"He intrigues me," Seattle Seahawks director of college scouting Scot McCloughan said. "This guy has the chance to be the steal of the receiver corps."


"When everybody looks at him they're comparing him to Owens," St. Louis Rams general manager Charley Armey said. "He's going to be a great player."

In comparisons to Owens, they both played at small colleges, they played some college basketball, they both dropped too many passes, they both had similar careers (19 touchdown catches for Owens, 17 for Calico) and they both had low scores on the 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test (15 for Calico, 13 for Owens).

A major difference is that Calico outperformed Owens by a substantial margin in the combine workouts, including 40-yard dash (4.35 seconds to 4.64), vertical jump (38 inches to 33), standing broad jump (10 feet 7 inches to 10-2) and all three of the shuttle runs that measure change of direction and explosiveness.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Re: Re: Krangs Official Mock Draft

Originally posted by Houdini
From what I read, Tyrone Calico of Middle Tennessee State, has come so far in such a short time that it wouldn't be surprising if he were the third wide receiver selected because of his size and speed. They compare him to Terrell Owens, who was drafted in the 3rd round.

"He intrigues me," Seattle Seahawks director of college scouting Scot McCloughan said. "This guy has the chance to be the steal of the receiver corps."


"When everybody looks at him they're comparing him to Owens," St. Louis Rams general manager Charley Armey said. "He's going to be a great player."

In comparisons to Owens, they both played at small colleges, they played some college basketball, they both dropped too many passes, they both had similar careers (19 touchdown catches for Owens, 17 for Calico) and they both had low scores on the 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test (15 for Calico, 13 for Owens).

A major difference is that Calico outperformed Owens by a substantial margin in the combine workouts, including 40-yard dash (4.35 seconds to 4.64), vertical jump (38 inches to 33), standing broad jump (10 feet 7 inches to 10-2) and all three of the shuttle runs that measure change of direction and explosiveness.

Wow. Thank you Houdini.

 

[Ed B]

I really like the positions you address......but I'm not wild about the players you used to fill them in a few cases.

Overall I think you have an excellent understanding of the team's needs and (seeming) draft plan. I really think that the draft will pan out very closely to what you have predicted here.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by Ed B
I really like the positions you address......but I'm not wild about the players you used to fill them in a few cases.

Overall I think you have an excellent understanding of the team's needs and (seeming) draft plan. I really think that the draft will pan out very closely to what you have predicted here.

Explain away Ed!

I always want to know more and hear different takes.

 

[Ed B]

I like Bryant Johnson or a number of other wideouts more than Calico in round 2. Calico is just ridiculously raw. He's basically Bryan Gilmore. I can't see taking him in 2. Maybe in 4, though.

I think Brett Romberg is highly overrated. Todd Wike and Bruce Nelson are both significantly better players.

I don't see the utility of picking a tweener like Askew at 3 positions (HB, FB, and TE) that we already are strong at.

Pace is a nice player but he might be more OLB than DE in his "tweener" makeup.

And Bobby Wade is OK but once again, I think we can do better with guys like Walter Young, Shaun McDonald, Jon Olinger, Calico (later in the draft) or Kassim Osgood, just to name a few.

Don't get me wrong, this looks like I'm talking a lot of crap, but I really think you did a great job. I think that (aside from askew) you have the positions that we will address in the draft nailed. There will always be a difference of opinion on the names to put in the holes but I think you've won 75% of the battle when you can identify which rounds will be used to address which needs.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Boo Krang! Boo!

Am I sour? Yes!

My mock-draft thread didn't get one tenth the play your's has! Not only that, but it turned into a Tywan Mitchell thread!

Boo Krang! Boo!

 

[Northern Card]

Originally posted by Ed B
I like Bryant Johnson or a number of other wideouts more than Calico in round 2. Calico is just ridiculously raw. He's basically Bryan Gilmore. I can't see taking him in 2. Maybe in 4, though.

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FYI....]

SI.com's 2003 Mock Draft

Pick Team Pos. Player College
31 Oakland WR Tyrone Calico Mid Tenn. St. .
Oakland is a haven for no-name guys who turn into big-time players.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by Ed B
I like Bryant Johnson or a number of other wideouts more than Calico in round 2. Calico is just ridiculously raw. He's basically Bryan Gilmore. I can't see taking him in 2. Maybe in 4, though.

I think Brett Romberg is highly overrated. Todd Wike and Bruce Nelson are both significantly better players.

I don't see the utility of picking a tweener like Askew at 3 positions (HB, FB, and TE) that we already are strong at.

Pace is a nice player but he might be more OLB than DE in his "tweener" makeup.

And Bobby Wade is OK but once again, I think we can do better with guys like Walter Young, Shaun McDonald, Jon Olinger, Calico (later in the draft) or Kassim Osgood, just to name a few.

Don't get me wrong, this looks like I'm talking a lot of crap, but I really think you did a great job. I think that (aside from askew) you have the positions that we will address in the draft nailed. There will always be a difference of opinion on the names to put in the holes but I think you've won 75% of the battle when you can identify which rounds will be used to address which needs.

Thanks Ed. I was thinking Askew because I think he will be a nice special teams player, and could possibly beat out McKinley also (who is also a good special teamer).

Calico is a huge reach and I will admit as much, and I've read a lot of negative opinions recently about Romberg.

Bobby Wade I will stand by, because he is going to be a solid pro imo as a special teamer and a 3-4 wideout. I give him an edge over McDonald because more was asked of him college (he was used in more ways so it is easier to gauge what he can do).

 

[Krangodnzr]

1. Dewayne Robertson, UK- Not the glamour pick that Suggs would be, but a great pick nonetheless. He is a short squatty, but quick tackle in the Warren Sapp mold, yet he is bigger than Sapp. Instantly improves our defensive line.

2. Tyrone Calico, Middle Tennessee State- I would go with either him or Bryant Johnson here, but I'm enamored more with Calico. He has elite size and speed, and would be a tremendous prospect for Sullivan and Tolbert to work with. A bit of a reach, but come back in 3 years and tell me that.

3. Calvin Pace , Wake Forest- I'm banking that he falls here, and if not, there are plenty of DE/OLB tweeners that we could take instead. Andrew Williams of Miami is another possibility. Pace is not very big (but bigger than Suggs) but has speed and the ability to rush the passer. Initially might only be a pass rush specialist, but who cares.