Krangodnzr
Captain of Team Conner
No he wasn't. His agent can insist that he was, but money talks. Find me a source that reports that any team besides the Cards wanted Max Hall. You can't; I've tried after Russ Smith insisted that the Provo Daily News or something ran with that story. NO ONE wanted Max Hall, and we all saw why.
Well I looked for the articles I read earlier, and under the mountain of information that is the internet I could not find it. Maybe I'm mistaken but you also have NO PROOF that no one wanted Max Hall. That's an assertion on your part and an unproven one too.
Max Hall got a ridiculously low signing bonus for a UDFA; that's the proof.
LOL ok that's proof that he wasn't wanted. Could it have been that maybe the Jaguars or some other team was offering 10k and the Cardinals in their normal cheap selves offered only 3k? Is it at all plausible that Hall would choose 7k less money to be at home with his family on a team that had some QB turnover? Naw that's not plausible at all!
So you think that Peter King and Ron Jaworski and Jon Gruden just sit around watching college tape of UDFA quarterbacks, and they all decided that Max Hall was a guy to watch out for? Do you really, really believe that? Honestly? Max Hall? The guy who looked terrible against everyone but the Washington Redskins' fourth string? Really?
Well then they have no credibility whatsoever. But this doesn't really prove anything; the media were hyped up over him. It's not like Whisenhunt wrote a number of articles about him.
Have you read Next Man Up? One of the things it talks about in there is about the way that the media gets their stories. The media guys talk to the head coach and staff and let them know what they're thinking about and whom to watch out for.
Who are these NFL talent evaluators and media people who liked Max Hall before he was the #2 quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals? Show me.
So then maybe the QBs coach said he really like Hall and the media went crazy for him? That doesn't make Whisenhunt this big Hall cheerleader like you make him out to be.
That sounds like he's talking about players. Where's the part where he's talking about coaches? I'm glad that Whis realizes that Joey Porter and Alan Faneca have nothing left; the rest of us realized that last August. But Darren Urban is already assuming that Chris Miller is going to be calling plays full time next year. Do you believe that this promotion is in order because his offense was so remarkably productive this season?
Who knows if Miller will be effective as a playcaller. Whisenhunt has been and if Miller struggles then Whisenhunt can take over again.
Well then aren't we all lucky that Ken Whisenhunt bet the Arizona Cardinals' 2010 season on a 0.000000001% prospect. Has he squandered the benefit of the doubt with you right now, or not?
LOL Whisenhunt didn't bet our season on Max Hall, he just didn't bet it on LEINART. Which is why the story that he wanted Bulger badly is likely true, but the cheap front office that pocketed $30 million thought we didn't need another QB.
I don't put everything on Whis. I blame the front office for giving Whis too much power too soon. They never should have allowed him to cut #7 in favor of Max Hall. They never should have allowed him to cut Cody Brown. But the front office also gets partial credit for building that Super Bowl team, and you don't seem to be giving them the benefit of the doubt, either.
Or maybe Dennis Green broke years of poor player evaluation and now you are giving the front office the credit!
This is the same front office by-and-large that we had under Dave Mac.
The sad fact is that the personnel problems that this team has had are mostly on bringing in old Pittsburgh guys like Porter and Faneca and Bryant McFadden. I think that the personnel here was good enough for an 8-win team. But the coaching brought us down to a five-win team. This team underperformed the talent level, and that's on the coaching staff.
LOL you think this was an 8 win team. If you're sold on that, then I've got a bunch of swamp land in Florida I want to sell you.
I don't think this was an 8 win team with Anderson at QB. Possibly with Leinart, but that would've taken the play of the GOOD Leinart (rookie year) not the play of the BAD Leinart (every game since his rookie year).
We have gaping holes at a number of key positions and I think this team would've struggled under every scenario other than Kurt Warner returning.