Kyler injures shoulder/bicep against 9ers

[ajcardfan]

Rest?

Crazy talk IMO. Don't throw any game away. He can rest on the bye week.

 

[AZman5103]

If he has an injury...you HAVE to sit him. By injury I mean something that is at risk of getting worse by playing. If he is just in some pain, then you can put him out there to give it a shot, but you better give Colt McCoy a bunch of reps this week and let Kyler know he's getting benched if he can't throw the ball.

At 5-0 we have a better than 80% chance of making the playoffs historically...and that needs to be the mindset. We are a playoff team and need to be firing on all cylinders at that time. If that means Kyler misses some games because he's dinged up, I'm fine with that.

I don't think McCoy can beat the Browns...but I don't think Kyler with a hurt arm can either...so take your chances.

No Hudson would almost assuredly make me start Colt if I was KK.

 

[ajcardfan]

Who says he has an injury that will affect him next week?

How about we wait and see and try to enjoy a win for one night before wringing our hands?

 

[daves]

There’s a compelling case to be made for Load Management for a teams stars until we have more data on the impact of a 17-game season.

A compelling case, or just a case? In the absence of data, I don't see how there can be a compelling case. There was NO case during a 16-game season, so a season 6.25% longer shouldn't be qualitatively different.

If he can play without risking further injury and can perform at a level that gives the Cardinals the best chance of winning, then he should play.

On the other hand, if the medical staff says ANY player faces a significant risk of exacerbating an injury by playing, and it's not a playoff game, the player should rest. Adding one more game to the season doesn't tip the scales toward a different way of handling such situations.

Players who just need "rest" to reduce "wear and tear" get practice days off already.

...dave

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Because not resting him when hurt last year cost us the playoffs.

Colt McCoy is a decent backup and we brought him in for situations like this

If a player is capable of playing at a level they and the coaching staff and the training staff deem effective they play in the nfl. It’s pretty much that simple.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

That said, how can you ask the other 52 dudes on the roster to give their all when you’re basically unfurling the white flag. Colt McCoy can’t win an NFL game against a good team.

This

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Rest?

Crazy talk IMO. Don't throw any game away. He can rest on the bye week.

Exactly. Every game counts. This isn’t baseball with 162 games.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

A compelling case, or just a case? In the absence of data, I don't see how there can be a compelling case. There was NO case during a 16-game season, so a season 6.25% longer shouldn't be qualitatively different.

If he can play without risking further injury and can perform at a level that gives the Cardinals the best chance of winning, then he should play.

On the other hand, if the medical staff says ANY player faces a significant risk of exacerbating an injury by playing, and it's not a playoff game, the player should rest. Adding one more game to the season doesn't tip the scales toward a different way of handling such situations.

Players who just need "rest" to reduce "wear and tear" get practice days off already.

...dave

What Dave said.

 

[WisconsinCard]

A compelling case, or just a case? In the absence of data, I don't see how there can be a compelling case. There was NO case during a 16-game season, so a season 6.25% longer shouldn't be qualitatively different.

If he can play without risking further injury and can perform at a level that gives the Cardinals the best chance of winning, then he should play.

On the other hand, if the medical staff says ANY player faces a significant risk of exacerbating an injury by playing, and it's not a playoff game, the player should rest. Adding one more game to the season doesn't tip the scales toward a different way of handling such situations.

Players who just need "rest" to reduce "wear and tear" get practice days off already.

...dave

Man I really appreciate your analytical brain and takes. Puts things in perspective.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Man I really appreciate your analytical brain and takes. Puts things in perspective.

He’s a rocket scientist.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Rest?

Crazy talk IMO. Don't throw any game away. He can rest on the bye week.

I’m good either way. I always lean a little conservative with injuries, especially with stars. If he goes, I’ll be cool with it and expect another W next week.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Rest?

Crazy talk IMO. Don't throw any game away. He can rest on the bye week.

The bye week is 7 weeks from now

 

[FB94]

Let’s wait until Friday or so and see what happens in practice

 

[WisconsinCard]

He’s a rocket scientist.

I know

 

[Vacard]

Rest? The easiest game we have coming up is against the Texans and if Colt plays then we would lose that.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I know

I bet you do!

 

[Proximo]

Because not resting him when hurt last year cost us the playoffs.

Colt McCoy is a decent backup and we brought him in for situations like this

No. I don’t buy it.

im still not convinced he was even really injured. He threw for 250+ multiple times. I think it is just an excuse that was used to explain the teams collapse.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Okay...

 

[daves]

Cardinals vs Eagles Current Injury Report Week 15, 2020

Get a current injury report for the Week 15 matchup between the Arizona Cardinals and the Philadelphia Eagles with potential impact and fantasy outlook.

www.thelines.com

Kyler was absent in injury reports. Example above. Not trying to troll, the shoulder injury was not talked about as the cause until Cardinals were out of playoffs.

The injury report lists players who may or will miss a game, not players who are definitely expected to play but may not be as effective as usual.

...dave

 

[overseascardfan]

Hopefully Hudson is 100% by next Sunday, going to really need him against CLE.

Murray looked okay after re-aggravating his shoulder. Maybe bring in someone to Miyagi his shoulder.

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[CardsSunsDbacks]

Exactly. Every game counts. This isn’t baseball with 162 games.

Can't believe people are talking like we have already clinched a playoff spot or something. Resting Murray for any game that he could have played in and losing could be the difference between making or missing the playoffs.

 

[BritCard]

Kyler's arm will be fine. He wouldn't have been out there throwing up 10 points with barely any time left if it wasn't. Or out there on the final drive handing the ball off, something which McCoy could do.

 

[juza76]

The injury

Kyler's arm will be fine. He wouldn't have been out there throwing up 10 points with barely any time left if it wasn't. Or out there on the final drive handing the ball off, something which McCoy could do.

Not really, beside the fact he threw the ball to Hopkins in the final drive, the offense with kyler is not predictable, having Mccoy out there i think our runs wouldn't have been successful

 

[Minski]

He’s a rocket scientist.

Wasn't Matt Patricia?

 

[BritCard]

The injury
Not really, beside the fact he threw the ball to Hopkins in the final drive, the offense with kyler is not predictable, having Mccoy out there i think our runs wouldn't have been successful

Same point. Either way if Kyler was really hurt anything more than just a bit of a stinger to the arm then he wouldn't be out there.

The offense was just off today. Mainly due to the O line letting get Kyler pressured too much.