Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

[Shane]

Where does AJ Green play now?

Not a great counter argument. You can’t use injuries as an excuse for 3 season of inaccuracy. He def needs to share some blame. But I sure like what I’m seeing now.

 

[BritCard]

Did you not see him play last season when we finished with the number 1 offense in the nfl when he was playing?

Keep that one game energy though it’s fun to watch.

It wasn't the #1 offense. It was the number 1 rushing attack. The passing attack for slightly above average.

 

[BritCard]

Where does AJ Green play now?

Unless he plays somewhere they have wings on their cleats I'm not sure it's relevant to catching uncatchable balls.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Not a great counter argument. You can’t use injuries as an excuse for 3 season of inaccuracy. He def needs to share some blame. But I sure like what I’m seeing now.

Part of a QB looking accurate or not is being on the same page as the receivers. Like the first incompletion to MHJ after the four straight catches may look like an inaccurate throw, but it is highly probable they were simply on a different page on how he was supposed to finish that route.

This isn't to say he hasn't had issues with accuracy at times, just pointing out how simply being on a different page can cause someone to look less accurate.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Kyler was great on Sunday. Really super.

Also it was one game. I'll come back here at the end of the season.

This.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Did you not see him play last season when we finished with the number 1 offense in the nfl when he was playing?

What in the world are you talking about? We averaged 22.5 ppg with Kyler back. That ain’t close to the number 1 offense in the NFL. It woulda been 14th in the league over the course of the season… basically league average.

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[oaken1]

Part of a QB looking accurate or not is being on the same page as the receivers. Like the first incompletion to MHJ after the four straight catches may look like an inaccurate throw, but it is highly probable they were simply on a different page on how he was supposed to finish that route.

This isn't to say he hasn't had issues with accuracy at times, just pointing out how simply being on a different page can cause someone to look less accurate.

Truth.
That's why I only question accuracy when it's obvious both guys read it the same and the ball just wasn't delivered to the right spot..like a backshoulder that crosses the sideline 10 feet in the air for example.

 

[oaken1]

What in the world are you talking about? We averaged 22.5 ppg with Kyler back. That ain’t close to the number 1 offense in the NFL. It woulda been 14th in the league over the course of the season… basically league average.

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#1 I never saw.
What I did see however was that for the last 4 games of last season we were the 4th ranked offense...in that stretch....
Which has merit simply because lots of teams were fighting for playoff positions in that stretch.
It's not definitive. But it gives hope and indicates possibility and trajectory

 

[Cheesebeef]

#1 I never saw.
What I did see however was that for the last 4 games of last season we were the 4th ranked offense...in that stretch....
Which has merit simply because lots of teams were fighting for playoff positions in that stretch.
It's not definitive. But it gives hope and indicates possibility and trajectory

Def gives hope for the future, but point remains we weren’t close to the number 1 offense once Kyler came back.

 

[K1Day1]

Well New Orleans is a much smaller market then Phoenix to be fair...

If you compare state viewership the answer is yes. However, Nationally the Saints are a far greater featured team than the Cardinals.

 

[kerouac9]

If you compare state viewership the answer is yes. However, Nationally the Saints are a far greater featured team than the Cardinals.

And because they beat the Cowboys. In the East Coast timeslot.

 

[K1Day1]

New Orleans is in no way shape or form a bigger market than Phoenix.

And 190 yards and 4 TDs is a spectacular game. And it came on the road, against a team with Super Bowl hype.

State wise the Cardinals are the larger market. Nationally the Saints are a much higher featured team than the Cards.

I guess since Kamara's performance was equally spectacular that means the NFL sent his jersey to the Hall of Fame as well ??????

As far as the Cowboys go.. EVERY SINGLE YEAR ! ! ! The Cowboys have Super Bowl hype ! ! ! That shouldn't even be a factor.

 

[602 Native]

Not a great counter argument. You can’t use injuries as an excuse for 3 season of inaccuracy. He def needs to share some blame. But I sure like what I’m seeing now.

He hasn't had 3 seasons of inaccuracy. Can we please not start with the K1 hyperbole? Dude has been a pro-bowler for multiple years and an MVP front-runner.

Some of you really have a hard-on to hate the guy even though he will likely shatter every QB record the Cardinals have.

And before you talk about how bad the QBs have been here that actually goes in K1s favor carrying a perinally crap franchise on his back.

 

[PACardsFan]

He hasn't had 3 seasons of inaccuracy. Can we please not start with the K1 hyperbole? Dude has been a pro-bowler for multiple years and an MVP front-runner.

Some of you really have a hard-on to hate the guy even though he will likely shatter every QB record the Cardinals have.

And before you talk about how bad the QBs have been here that actually goes in K1s favor carrying a perinally crap franchise on his back.

You’re correct, but you’re wasting your time arguing with some of these never-Kylers. They got their feelings hurt because they wanted us to draft someone else back in 2019. So when Murray plays well, they become his buddy. Otherwise, they dog him every chance they get. Just the way it is.

 

[602 Native]

It wasn't the #1 offense. It was the number 1 rushing attack. The passing attack for slightly above average.

I guess

What in the world are you talking about? We averaged 22.5 ppg with Kyler back. That ain’t close to the number 1 offense in the NFL. It woulda been 14th in the league over the course of the season… basically league average.

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Check the last 4 weeks of the season my man.

 

[PACardsFan]

I guess

Check the last 4 weeks of the season my man.

Common sense means nothing to them lol.

 

[Chopper0080]

You’re correct, but you’re wasting your time arguing with some of these never-Kylers. They got their feelings hurt because they wanted us to draft someone else back in 2019. So when Murray plays well, they become his buddy. Otherwise, they dog him every chance they get. Just the way it is.

Hyperbole

hy·per·bo·le

exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.

 

[Chopper0080]

I guess

Check the last 4 weeks of the season my man.

I am curious what you think that link shows to support your claim.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

You’re correct, but you’re wasting your time arguing with some of these never-Kylers. They got their feelings hurt because they wanted us to draft someone else back in 2019. So when Murray plays well, they become his buddy. Otherwise, they dog him every chance they get. Just the way it is.

"never-Kylers"! lol! That's freaking awesome PA!

 

[Shane]

He hasn't had 3 seasons of inaccuracy. Can we please not start with the K1 hyperbole? Dude has been a pro-bowler for multiple years and an MVP front-runner.

Some of you really have a hard-on to hate the guy even though he will likely shatter every QB record the Cardinals have.

And before you talk about how bad the QBs have been here that actually goes in K1s favor carrying a perinally crap franchise on his back.

Check his deep ball accuracy years 1-2 then compare and Check years 3-5 and get back to me. Its not hate. Its a fact. His deep ball accuracy has struggled for the last 3 years. It has been talked about ad nauseum around here. But I digress we understand around here that there are a few select posters around to whom Kyler is a god and can do no wrong EVER.

 

[602 Native]

Kyler is a god and can do no wrong EVER.

More hyperbole.

Seriously every post is a shot at K1 or the fans that like him.
Been a fan since the Cards got here and worked for the organization as well.

I have seen all the terrible QB play and still remember the days of people telling me that such greats as Leinart was better than Warner, Anderson was good enough, Max Hall (this was absolutely hilarious), John Skelton, McCoy is better than K1, then the most recent foolishness Tune being good.

Yet when it comes to our ROY, ProBowl, and franchise QB that has actually carried the franchise people don't like the guy.

It is beyond goofy.

 

[K1Day1]

More hyperbole.

Seriously every post is a shot at K1 or the fans that like him.
Been a fan since the Cards got here and worked for the organization as well.

I have seen all the terrible QB play and still remember the days of people telling me that such greats as Leinart was better than Warner, Anderson was good enough, Max Hall (this was absolutely hilarious), John Skelton, McCoy is better than K1, then the most recent foolishness Tune being good.

Yet when it comes to our ROY, ProBowl, and franchise QB that has actually carried the franchise people don't like the guy.

It is beyond goofy.

Thanks for writing that. The Cardinals have been in Arizona for about 40 years and some fans act as though Murray is some huge disappointment to all the great QB's the Cardinals have drafted over the years. I honestly don't get it either.

 

[PACardsFan]

Check his deep ball accuracy years 1-2 then compare and Check years 3-5 and get back to me. Its not hate. Its a fact. His deep ball accuracy has struggled for the last 3 years. It has been talked about ad nauseum around here. But I digress we understand around here that there are a few select posters around to whom Kyler is a god and can do no wrong EVER.

It may be a fact, but it’s due to factors not entirely under his control. Crappy OL, predictable offense under KK, and no WR1 to throw deep balls to with any level of confidence. Murray was an extremely accurate deep ball thrower his entire life, but we’re to believe that he somehow forgot how to do it ??? His favorite long ball targets when he was one of the best in the NFL at it were Kirk & DHop. He lost Kirk to free agency & DHop to injury & suspension. And what WR1 options did he have to throw the deep ball to last year the last 7-8 games? The correct answer is he didn’t have one. And all that was when he was learning a new offense. With all the crap he was given being drafted by a horrendous organization, Kyler has been an incredible talent. Thank God for MOJG or we would have to watch Kyler break out for another team.

 

[cardncubfan]

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[Stout]

You’re correct, but you’re wasting your time arguing with some of these never-Kylers. They got their feelings hurt because they wanted us to draft someone else back in 2019. So when Murray plays well, they become his buddy. Otherwise, they dog him every chance they get. Just the way it is.

So when the fans of an NFL team's QB plays well, they like him, but when he doesn't play well, they don't like him? That's insane. Common fans never act like that with their team's QB!



You just perfectly described why a lot of us say different things about KM.