La/fla Trade Is Official!

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According to ESPN;

FLA gets
Mota
LoDuca
Encarnacion

LA gets
Brad Penny
Murphy (some prospect)

The Dbacks were NOT included in the trade.

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I reckon they turn around and trade Penny to the D'backs among others.....
 

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Ryanwb said:
I reckon they turn around and trade Penny to the D'backs among others.....

My guess is that deal will now lead to a trade with the Dbacks for Finley & RJ for the players originally mentioned in the trade RJ rejected a couple of days ago plus Brad Penny.

Kinda weird that the Dodgers didn't wait for the Charles Johnson deal to go through before trading Lo Duca
 

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Evil Ash said:
My guess is that deal will now lead to a trade with the Dbacks for Finley & RJ for the players originally mentioned in the trade RJ rejected a couple of days ago plus Brad Penny.
The deal was for LoDuca and Mota, now they are in Florida......
 

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Ryanwb said:
The deal was for LoDuca and Mota, now they are in Florida......

:oops: I didn't notice Mota in this deal.

It wasn't certain that Lo Duca was in the original deal for RJ (some conflicting reports on that).

I wonder who the Dodgers would use to replace him in their new deal :shrug:
 
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Looks like the Dodgers get Choi too.

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I was certain the DBacks were angling for Lo Duca and Mota. It now appears they are going to have to settle for Dodgers AAA catcher Koyie Hill. This essentially ends the possibility of us trading Bautista and Mayne to Florida. Penny, Bill Murphy, and Jason Werth will be the centerpiece of a RJ/Finley deal with others coming our way as well.
 

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I wonder if we trade fins to the dodgers if we could get a major league pitcher out of it...choi or penny...and keep RJ....
 

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Djaughe said:
I wonder if we trade fins to the dodgers if we could get a major league pitcher out of it...choi or penny...and keep RJ....

Choi's not a pitcher and no, LA would never trade Penny for Finley straight up.
 

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ESPN reports if RJ accepts trae to LA, Dbacks will get Penny among others, if Finley goes to LA Dbacks get Wuerth, Murphy among others.

RJ was asked yesterday by Dbacks to consider trade to LA and he told them he would sleep on it.

All this according to ESPN
 

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Choi is a 1B so he could be considered if the Dbacks feel like Sexson will not re-up. Choi was having a decent year down in FLA after the trade from CHC.
 

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Who is murphy? Is he a pitcher?
 

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Gammons reported an RJ deal with the dodgers would center on penny along with three minor leagues including chad billingsley
 

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AA pitcher LA received from FLA
old article...

Murphy figures into Marlins' plans
Double-A starter impresses in Futures Game stint
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USA's Bill Murphy pitched one scoreless inning against the World team on Sunday. (Tony Gutierrez/AP)
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HOUSTON -- On Sunday afternoon, Bill Murphy tossed one scoreless inning facing some of the stars of tomorrow in the All-Star Futures Game at Minute Maid Park.


If the 23-year-old left-hander keeps progressing, his big league debut with the Marlins could come in the near future.

Because Josh Beckett is out indefinitely, the Marlins have yet to decide on a starter for the fifth game after the All-Star Break. Murphy, now at Double-A Carolina, is one possibility to start on July 20 against the Mets at Shea Stadium.

"It would be great," Murphy said of reaching the big leagues that quickly. "I'd be ready for it, that's for sure. If it happens, hopefully I can go up there and help the team win."

The Marlins are considering several options for that start, including moving reliever Nate Bump into the rotation, or going with left-handed veteran Darren Oliver, who opened the season as the fifth starter. Bringing someone up from Triple-A Albuquerque is another possibility.

"This game right here prepares everybody," Murphy said of his experience Sunday in Houston. "If you get called up tomorrow, you have to be prepared. You're playing against the best minor league players in the game. It kind of prepares you here."

After the break, the Marlins travel to Pittsburgh for three games. A.J. Burnett will go on Friday, followed by All-Star Carl Pavano on Saturday and Brad Penny is set for Sunday.

Dontrelle Willis will face the Mets on July 19 at Shea Stadium.

Last May, the Marlins brought Willis up from Double-A and the left-hander went on to become National League Rookie of the Year. The organization isn't shy about giving its young players a chance. Double-A outfielder/catcher Josh Willingham was called up a few days ago.

Murphy showed promise on Sunday, working a scoreless fifth inning in the U.S. Futures' 4-3 win over the World Futures.

The left-hander didn't allow a hit, struck out two, walked one and had a wild pitch.

Asked how he felt he did, Murphy noted he was a bit wild, as usual.

Command with the lefty is key.

"I'm trying to locate my fastball a little bit better," Murphy said. "My fastball has been a little erratic at times. If I work on throwing my changeup and fastball, and use my fastball as an out-pitch, I'll be all right."

For the Mudcats, Murphy is 6-3 with a 3.77 ERA. His control is an issue, as he's walked 53 in 90 2/3 innings. But his strikeout total of 102 is impressive.

Of late, his fastball has gained some steam, as he's clocked regularly around 89 to 91 mph. His second pitch is a changeup and he throws a curveball.

Formerly in the A's organization, Murphy is adjusting to a new philosophy. Florida's minor league pitching coordinator Dean Treanor made it clear early that the Marlins are developing fastball/changeup pitchers throughout the minor leagues. Murphy was told his curveball would become his third pitch.

Murphy joined the Marlins as the player to be named later in the Mark Redman trade with the A's. Reliever Mike Neu also was part of the deal.

A California native who lives in Riverside, Murphy was stunned when he heard the news on Dec. 23, 2003. He already was preparing to open Spring Training in Arizona for the A's. And he had even moved to Phoenix. "I had no idea it was coming," Murphy said of the trade. "I was looking forward to going to camp. I moved out there to Phoenix, and then I got a call saying I just got traded. I was like, 'Here we go.' I was going to Florida. It was kind of weird. But it is part of the game. You have to accept it and just go and try to impress another team."
 
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Latest from ESPNews...

Jim Bowden says
*Lopsided to the Marlins, get Encarnacion back, offense, bullpen and clubhouse leader.
*Penny has told teammates that his elbow has been bothering him.
*Seems LA is going to turn around these guys. We (ESPN) dont know yet.
*Dodgers are a first place team that is taking away the C that handled that staff and their best setup guy
*Hearing that Penny, Murphy and Werth are part of the package.

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Lots of walks. Should fit right in with our current pitching staff...couldn't resist.
 
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*SD is coming on strong and has offered Xavier Nady and Vasquez for Finley

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Looks like there is a sudden bidding war for Finley between the Dodgers and Padres. Evidently the Padres have massively upped their offer ... its now Nady, Vasquez, and others per ESPNews
 

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Evil Ash said:
Looks like there is a sudden bidding war for Finley between the Dodgers and Padres. Evidently the Padres have massively upped their offer ... its now Nady, Vasquez, and others per ESPNews

Any word on Milton Bradley moving out of CF or will he go postal if Fins goes to LA?
 
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AZCB34 said:
Any word on Milton Bradley moving out of CF or will he go postal if Fins goes to LA?

Yes and yes. ;)

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AZCB34 said:
Any word on Milton Bradley moving out of CF or will he go postal if Fins goes to LA?
lol...whoever gets Finley is gonna deal a blow to the other NL West team. I have a feeling no one is asking milty about his feelings....
 

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