La'el Collins will be stuck in the Green room

[Garthshort]

sunsfan88, I think that Collins will take a lot of pressure off of Gregory. As the story of Collins' murdered girl friend will be on the front pages of the Dallas newspapers. And if he had NOTHING to do with it, then the Cowboys got a steal. And if it turns out that the Cowboys got a killer, then it will be him and not Gregory and Hardy that the media will be talking about. JMO.

 

[devilalum]

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[Lorenzo]

to be fair, we were dying to have a wife-beater, druggie... an abusive father... and just signed a guy who did a month in prison last off-season. The Cards ain't exactly angels over here.

Hardy is the one that bothers me. At the time Jerry was desperate to add a pass rusher but I dont think the signing was necessary. I have no problem with Collins and Gregory. Both are guys that are low risk for dallas. The consensus seems to be that Collins is a good young man but since he opted to sign in dallas some may think otherwise. From an oline perspective it is a good move because he wIll be surrounded by a strong unit.

 

[Lorenzo]

They just posted bond for Aaron Hernandez also

Not yet but ironically the patriots have a long history of signing questionable character players and for whatever reason bill belechek gets lauded for it while Jerry takes it in the shorts. I'm not advocating criminal activity as being ok because it's not. I would have stayed away from hardy for sure. And I'm also not trying to defend Jerry. He deserves the criticism.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I only have this to say, there is a reason teams do not do what Dallas just did with a number of questionable character guys. There is a reason a majority of the NFL teams do not do what Dallas has done. It has nothing to do with a team wanting to preserve its moral character, it has to do with players getting suspended and being a locker room distraction. With Dallas it is playing with fire, because they have a coaching staff that has some of the least authority with players in the league, due to a guy name Jerry who meddles in everything... and then one expects the Cowboys of all teams to control players with questionable characters, right lol

 

[Lorenzo]

I only have this to say, there is a reason teams do not do what Dallas just did with a number of questionable character guys. There is a reason a majority of the NFL teams do not do what Dallas has done. It has nothing to do with a team wanting to preserve its moral character, it has to do with players getting suspended and being a locker room distraction. With Dallas it is playing with fire, because they have a coaching staff that has some of the least authority with players in the league, due to a guy name Jerry who meddles in everything... and then one expects the Cowboys of all teams to control players with questionable characters, right lol

Jerry has always done that and he has failed like t.o. Being the biggest one that comes to mind. The Cowboys have always had questionable guys. What about mark stepnoski that admitted to smoking weed almost daily at times. Everyone just turned a blind eye to that. Then mark tuenei as well. You can go back to the Landry days where you had a coach with the highest morals and dallas still had questionable characters. So do other teams in today's nfl. People are just more aware of what Jerry does because he is one of the more covered general managers in the nfl. I don't agree with it at times and don't understand why he feels he has to always take risks because you won't come out on top with every move. I think hardy is a bad move. Take him out of the equation and you still have a decent d line with some younger talented guys.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Jerry has always done that and he has failed like t.o. Being the biggest one that comes to mind. The Cowboys have always had questionable guys. What about mark stepnoski that admitted to smoking weed almost daily at times. Everyone just turned a blind eye to that. Then mark tuenei as well. You can go back to the Landry days where you had a coach with the highest morals and dallas still had questionable characters. So do other teams in today's nfl. People are just more aware of what Jerry does because he is one of the more covered general managers in the nfl. I don't agree with it at times and don't understand why he feels he has to always take risks because you won't come out on top with every move. I think hardy is a bad move. Take him out of the equation and you still have a decent d line with some younger talented guys.

Forget about the questionable players signed. What ended the Cowboy's season for the most part was they have no adequate backup to Romo and one would think they would get one when your QB has a back problem. They let Murray go and sign a good back but a back in McFadden who is not durable and yet do not add another back in a draft rich running back class... the only thing in the offseason they did right is draft a cornerback

 

[Cardiac]

I'm not reading this entire thread but wanted to say this sucks on three levels. Feel absolutely horrible for La'el since what he worked so hard at for years and was set to "cash in" on his hard work got screwed by plain old bad luck. Think about the emotion you see from the top draft picks, heck even many through round 7 and La'el was cheated on that.

Second level of suck is that the hated Cowboys just got a steal of the century. Not only got a top ten talent as an UDFA and on the cheap but now he has the biggest chip on his shoulder, no way he doesn't give it his all.

The worst part of course is the death of a woman and her child and hopefully La'el can put it all into perspective.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

The worst part of course is the death of a woman and her child and hopefully La'el can put it all into perspective.

The child survived.

 

[Cardiac]

The child survived.

Initially but I'm pretty sure the child passed away a couple of days later. When I say pretty I'm 99.9% sure that's what happened. Very sad indeed.

 

[splitsecond]

Here is the thing: teams didn't completely pass on Collins because of this one issue alone. No way, no how. There had to be more character issues that teams saw. I feel bad for the kid, but he doesn't completely fall out of the draft without something more. If this guy was a good kid who just had bad luck, he would be a Cardinal - considering how linked the team is to LSU. Unless Keim and BA just don't like him as a prospect.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Here is the thing: teams didn't completely pass on Collins because of this one issue alone. No way, no how. There had to be more character issues that teams saw. I feel bad for the kid, but he doesn't completely fall out of the draft without something more. If this guy was a good kid who just had bad luck, he would be a Cardinal - considering how linked the team is to LSU. Unless Keim and BA just don't like him as a prospect.

As one issue goes, possible complicity in murder is a pretty big one, and more than enough to give pause to all 32 clubs. Nothing else needed.

 

[FrustratedFan04]

Well I'm going to play "devil's advocate". First off it's critical to know when he first knew he was not the father. If this police test was the first inkling that puts things in a different light. Secondly he claims to have an alibi, that he was in NO with his family, and he says he has texts and e-mail on his phone which will show where he was. Now of course that will show where his phone was. He would not be the first person on earth who would try to have someone removed from their life just when they were on the verge of a financial windfall. Or to have someone else perform the act. The police say they believe she knew the assailant in as much as she opened the door to the person who then entered, shot her in the face and left. It was a "killing" as opposed to a robbery or home invasion. The police were right to suspect him and if the timing was bad for him it was much worse for this woman and her innocent child.

 

[Cardiac]

Here is the thing: teams didn't completely pass on Collins because of this one issue alone. No way, no how. There had to be more character issues that teams saw. I feel bad for the kid, but he doesn't completely fall out of the draft without something more. If this guy was a good kid who just had bad luck, he would be a Cardinal - considering how linked the team is to LSU. Unless Keim and BA just don't like him as a prospect.

Your premise is incorrect. Teams weren't going to draft him in the first two days of the draft because there was a decent chance Collins was going to jail for murder. No teams drafted him in the later rounds because his agent said he wouldn't sign if we slipped past the 3rd rd.

Collins doesn't sign and he then reenters the draft in 2016 which means he would probably get drafted in the first rd. Since no teams drafted him this year then he can't go into the 2016 draft and his only option was to sign as an UDFA.

I haven't heard of any other red flags but there could have been some. Point is the fact that no team drafted him doesn't mean he had other red flags, just really crappy luck as it turns out.