Leonard Williams NYG traded to Seahawks

[PACardsFan]

Oh well! The rich get richer.

 

[TheCardFan]

Please trade Dexter Lawrence to us.

 

[Totally_Red]

Shefty say Giants are paying 10 million of his salary. We are falling further behind.

 

[Chopper0080]

Smart move.

 

[Chopper0080]

Hopefully Monti will learn quick that the NFC West is vert aggressive. Can't slow play a process here.

 

[slanidrac16]

If we were sitting on top of the division maybe we would make some moves. At 1-7 the only moves we might make is trading away players.

 

[Chopper0080]

If we were sitting on top of the division maybe we would make some moves. At 1-7 the only moves we might make is trading away players.

Disagree. The idea is to build. We sat out FA. We have lots of draft picks. We have huge needs at some key positions. Always a good time to add.

 

[Chopper0080]

Pretty stupid to count on free agency to add talent when people argue that no one wanted to go to your franchise in year 1, and your record is just as bad in heading into year 2.

 

[oaken1]

Is that Leonard "Big Cat" Williams??
Ain't he like....45?

 

[oaken1]

Pretty stupid to count on free agency to add talent when people argue that no one wanted to go to your franchise in year 1, and your record is just as bad in heading into year 2.

Right? .... aaand... if it were true...taking the decision away from the player by acquiring them through trade would be exactly the move to counter that.

 

[TheCardFan]

It ALL depends on Kyler.

Kyler is franchise QB - we need to make some moves.
Kyler is not franchise QB - total rebuild and we don't need these types of veterans until 2025.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

Shefty say Giants are paying 10 million of his salary. We are falling further behind.

Seattle is paying more in draft capital (2 & 5) for the salary offset - the cost of acquisition and him being in the last year of his deal are concerns - I think he can be a nice piece for them though

He's also 29

 

[Snakester]

We need defensive linemen worse than any other team so yes we could have used him. I am always for adding and keeping talent not letting it go or not acquiring any. Next season will show us if Monti is worth anything. If he screws the pooch again he should be fired.

 

[PJ1]

Have to give the Hags credit. I thought they were toast after Wilson and the core of that D was gone. They stay competitive and now lead the division.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

We need defensive linemen worse than any other team so yes we could have used him. I am always for adding and keeping talent not letting it go or not acquiring any. Next season will show us if Monti is worth anything. If he screws the pooch again he should be fired.

Honestly, funny know if it would have been a great move for AZ - would you be able to get him to commit to resigning? Basically pay FA cost and draft capital when building - could be tough

 

[gmabel830]

If he re-signs, great move. If not, they paid a 2nd and 5th round pick for a rental.

 

[Arz101]

Seahawks will realize he is not what they think he is

 

[Chopper0080]

Seahawks will realize he is not what they think he is

Maybe. But he is better than most DL players in the NFL. You don't really win Super Bowls or compete over long periods of time by being cautious. You have to take some risks. The NFC West does it as good or better than most.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Disagree. The idea is to build. We sat out FA. We have lots of draft picks. We have huge needs at some key positions. Always a good time to add.

You aren't building with pending free agents. You aren't building with Leonard Williams, an almost 30 year old with a nearly average pass rush win rate (13%) who faces the five least double teams at DT.

Its a dumb trade for the Seahawks.

 

[Krangodnzr]

If he re-signs, great move. If not, they paid a 2nd and 5th round pick for a rental.

Conceivably they could get a 3rd round comp picks though. But Williams hasnt been that good this season so the Giants go a lot for him.

 

[Chopper0080]

You aren't building with pending free agents. You aren't building with Leonard Williams, an almost 30 year old with a nearly average pass rush win rate (13%) who faces the five least double teams at DT.

Its a dumb trade for the Seahawks.

They are in 1st place right now and are tied for the 2nd best record in the NFC. They are adding talent which is what teams who want to compete do. With Geno Smith.

 

[Krangodnzr]

They are in 1st place right now and are tied for the 2nd best record in the NFC. They are adding talent which is what teams who want to compete do. With Geno Smith.

This isn't betting on CMC. Williams has underachieved for awhile now. He plays next to a guy who commands near constant double teams and he produces average production.

Making trades to make a trade isn't smart, especially when 2nd round picks can net real contributors.

This is more Jamal Adams than Marshawn Lynch.

 

[football karma]

i think its a good trade for the remainder of the year

giving up a 2nd for a pending UFA puts real pressure on the FO to resign him afterwards.....

the other thing: Leonard Williams has had two teams in his first fours years trade him

 

[Arz101]

i think its a good trade for the remainder of the year

giving up a 2nd for a pending UFA puts real pressure on the FO to resign him afterwards.....

the other thing: Leonard Williams has had two teams in his first fours years trade him

LW is a better version of NKemdiche and that is not saying much

 

[Krangodnzr]

i think its a good trade for the remainder of the year

giving up a 2nd for a pending UFA puts real pressure on the FO to resign him afterwards.....

the other thing: Leonard Williams has had two teams in his first fours years trade him

I'd agree if Williams was better than Jarran Reed and Jones, their other DT, but he isn't.