Let’s Take a Moment to Overreact to Kyler’s IG Page

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Comparing Kyler’s performance in our playoff game to what Joe Burrow did tonight is silly.
I didnt start of comparing his playoff game. it was brought up. I said it was a WOAT kind of game. However, Joe was still below average and missed an open wr with the game on the line. I compared it more to Kyler 2nd game against the Rams.
Burrow had a ton of time to throw for most of the game, I believe the Rams only had 1 sack and 2 total pressures at the half. They changed their pressure schemes in the 2nd half and had more success but you can't put those sacks on his OL while you put all of Kyler's sacks on Kyler. Burrow held the ball and didn't hit the hot reads.. The Bengals OL was better in this game than the Cardinals OL was against these same Rams.
Yea their Oline was no better or worse than our 2nd game against the Rams imo. The one where Donald had 14 pressures. Kyler just dodged a few more sacks than Burrow did.
 

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Bengals are well coached and the least penalized team in the league. cardinals would have like 5 false starts and 2 late hits in that games. Their o-line is better, their receiving core is better, there defensive line and pass rush is way better. Y’all need to stop with saying talent is a wash.
This statement is a little difficult to swallow considering they’re coach was considered one of the worst in the league until…

…wait for it…

…He basically turned the team over to Burrow.

And that the game was decided by a series of bone-headed Cincy penalties in the red zone.
 

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Burrow had a ton of time to throw for most of the game, I believe the Rams only had 1 sack and 2 total pressures at the half. They changed their pressure schemes in the 2nd half and had more success but you can't put those sacks on his OL while you put all of Kyler's sacks on Kyler. Burrow held the ball and didn't hit the hot reads.. The Bengals OL was better in this game than the Cardinals OL was against these same Rams.
Actually if Burrow wasn’t so good at getting the ball out quickly he would have taken more sacks. You say the Rams changed their pressure schemes in the second half to be more successful but then blame Burrow for holding the ball too long. Which is it?
 

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I thought Burrow would be a bust but he's the real deal. Kid has his knee shredded but comes back and doing this for the AFC's equivalent of the Cardinal franchise carries a lot of validation... but just like the Cards, they found a way to steal defeat from the jaws of victory
 

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This statement is a little difficult to swallow considering they’re coach was considered one of the worst in the league until…

…wait for it…

…He basically turned the team over to Burrow.

And that the game was decided by a series of bone-headed Cincy penalties in the red zone.
They won just 2 games with Burrow last year. You mean when they drafted Jamar Chase. The greatest rookie wr of all time?

And Burrow and his wrs were really on fire to end the regular season.Their defense took over in the playoffs.

I'd say the Bengals team deserve a lot of credit.
 

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They won just 2 games with Burrow last year. You mean when they drafted Jamar Chase. The greatest rookie wr of all time?
It does take a little time to install a culture. This was a team that had earned the #1 overall pick the year before. In the 10 games before Burrow shredded his knee, the Bengals were:

-3
-5
Tied
-8
-24 (bad)
-4
+3
+11
-26 (bad)

So, yeah. It’s ridiculous to say that it was a rookie WR that made the difference for this team.
 

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Actually if Burrow wasn’t so good at getting the ball out quickly he would have taken more sacks. You say the Rams changed their pressure schemes in the second half to be more successful but then blame Burrow for holding the ball too long. Which is it?

Both. They're blitzing and stunting, get the ball out quicker.
 

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It does take a little time to install a culture. This was a team that had earned the #1 overall pick the year before. In the 10 games before Burrow shredded his knee, the Bengals were:

-3
-5
Tied
-8
-24 (bad)
-4
+3
+11
-26 (bad)

So, yeah. It’s ridiculous to say that it was a rookie WR that made the difference for this team.
So he was a pretty good losing QB. And then became a really good winning QB once getting Jamar Chase. Got it.
 

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Stafford just won a Superbowl. Kyler can too.

Nuff said.

Patience grasshoppers.
Stafford won a game with 2 interceptions and his defense gave up just 20 points. The key is being able to win in more ways than just Kyler playing really well. Rams won the division despite Stafford throwing 8 ints near the end of the year. Rams saved their season by getting a legit playmaker in Odell that keeps a defense honest. That kind of assurance helped them overcome the unfortunate Woods injury. The Rams team we saw without Odell easily lose to the Bucs and 49ers. They got Von Miller to help restart what was a struggling defense.


Kyler can win a Super Bowl if he wants to get better. However, its going to take this organization to want to get better as well. Keeping Keim, no changes/upgrades the staff (What is Billy Davis still doing here?) makes me wait for all parties involved to show me first.
 

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What they have is a legit Defense that has won games for them. People acting like Burrow is that whole team which is a complete joke! If we had their D we are likely playing in the SB as we would have collapsed late season of our pathetic D doesn’t routinely give up 30 to everyone…

This is such BS.

Cards D gave up 33 less passing yards per game but 13 more rushing yards. So less total yards. Practically identical points per game. Practically identical sacks per game.

And the Cards had the tougher schedule.
 
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Joe Burrow looked very pedestrian tonight, even with a solid run game and defense supporting him. Take away the long TD pass to Higgins that was the most absurd non-OPI call in history and his night was flat out bad. Forgive me for not believing the difference between our two teams is the quarterback.

This is hilarious.

Kyler got absolutely destroyed by this team. Burrow passed for 263 yards while getting sacked 7 times.

Some of the takes in this thread come straight from fantasy land.
 

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This statement is a little difficult to swallow considering they’re coach was considered one of the worst in the league until…

…wait for it…

…He basically turned the team over to Burrow.

And that the game was decided by a series of bone-headed Cincy penalties in the red zone.

Yeah its surprising how your coach is suddenly better when the QB does his job.
 

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They won just 2 games with Burrow last year. You mean when they drafted Jamar Chase. The greatest rookie wr of all time?

And Burrow and his wrs were really on fire to end the regular season.Their defense took over in the playoffs.

I'd say the Bengals team deserve a lot of credit.

He was a rookie last year with an even worse O line than now. There's a learning curve.
 

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This is such BS.

Cards D gave up 33 less passing yards per game but 13 more rushing yards. So less total yards. Practically identical points per game. Practically identical sacks per game.

And the Cards had the tougher schedule.
Whatever dude bash on you sound ridiculous. Our D got routinely smoked not sure what the **** you were watching! Maybe you missed the Lions, Carolina, Rams playoff debacle and many more where our D simply can’t stop anyone! You’re a complete joke if you think the Bengals D that shut down Mahomes is not clearly far better than our pathetic D that can’t get a pass rush on anyone, can’t stop the run, and gets blown out by the 1 win Lions! We get it you don’t like Kyler but to ignore the HUGE deficiencies this team has is well, ignorant.
 

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Whatever dude bash on you sound ridiculous. Our D got routinely smoked not sure what the **** you were watching! Maybe you missed the Lions, Carolina, Rams playoff debacle and many more where our D simply can’t stop anyone! You’re a complete joke if you think the Bengals D that shut down Mahomes is not clearly far better than our pathetic D that can’t get a pass rush on anyone, can’t stop the run, and gets blown out by the 1 win Lions! We get it you don’t like Kyler but to ignore the HUGE deficiencies this team has is well, ignorant.

I literally just showed you there was nothing between the defenses statistically in the regular season. You're the one spouting hyperbole to try make excuses for Kyler.

This Bengals D that you think is so much better than ours gave up 34 to Mike White and the Jets. It gave up 41 to the Browns. It gave up 41 to the Chargers.

It's funny that how you bang on about the bad games that the Cards D had (every team has some) you conveniently ignore the fact the Bengals had similar if not worse results.

The Cards D never gave up 40, the Bengals did it twice.

There's nothing between the two defenses.
 

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I'm a Redbird through and through, my wife spent some time in Red Stick so I went down to visit her and catch a couple games. It's a fantastic atmosphere at Tiger stadium.I was at the game where Les Miles called the famous fake field goal to ice the game. We have the the 2019
championship game saved. I watch it a couple of times a year. It's 3am so I'll prolly wait until tomorrow to watch it. Hopefully it will get the sour taste out of my mouth from having the team I hate most winning tonight.
Good night now, late.
 

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I literally just showed you there was nothing between the defenses statistically in the regular season. You're the one spouting hyperbole to try make excuses for Kyler.

This Bengals D that you think is so much better than ours gave up 34 to Mike White and the Jets. It gave up 41 to the Browns. It gave up 41 to the Chargers.

It's funny that how you bang on about the bad games that the Cards D had (every team has some) you conveniently ignore the fact the Bengals had similar if not worse results.

The Cards D never gave up 40, the Bengals did it twice.

There's nothing between the two defenses.
Can happen but their defense looked solid when it matters
Even yesterday, they have much more speed
I can't see a defense being adequate with that lack of speed toughness and discipline in the front seven
 

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