Let’s Take a Moment to Overreact to Kyler’s IG Page

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There is not a single human being who passes through this giant ball of mud and rock without suffering from selfishness, self-pity and blaming others at least some point in their life. Not even Mother Theresa pulled that off. Some people realize that about themselves and become better people. Many, many others never have that insight and are permanent ********.

We will see. It's really tough for professional athletes to get a little humbleness and become part of the solution rather than part of the problem. Murray will grow up, or he won't.

The difference is most people try not to display it publicly and professionally.
 

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As far as the reports on Kyler maturing go... if one person calls you a duck, who cares? If 5 people call you a duck, then you oughta maybe check your ass for tail feathers.
 

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IDK what is true or isn’t, but IMO Murray is not mature enough quite yet, and frankly his body language at times says it all. What really concerns me is the rumored lack of commitment to be in the film room
 

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IDK what is true or isn’t, but IMO Murray is not mature enough quite yet, and frankly his body language at times says it all. What really concerns me is the rumored lack of commitment to be in the film room
Hey, I got roasted last year when I mention that. Look out. LOL
 

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IDK what is true or isn’t, but IMO Murray is not mature enough quite yet, and frankly his body language at times says it all. What really concerns me is the rumored lack of commitment to be in the film room

Kyler is age 24. He is just not out of high school.
 

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I think this team would be in a much better place had they never traded up for Rosen and instead sat there for nothing and gotten Lamar Jackson.
 

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I think this team would be in a much better place had they never traded up for Rosen and instead sat there for nothing and gotten Lamar Jackson.
Problem is Im not sure McCoy/Leftwhich would have scrapped their offense midseason to adjust like the Ravens did. So would he have gotten the Rosen treatment being so raw? And Kliff never called heavy QB runs even with Manziel (a lot of that was him just scrambling) so they might have asked him to do too much early on. Lamar is actually better with two TEs instead of 4 wide like Kliff wants.

Lamar succeeded with Ravens building from the inside/out. Kliff might have been fired already and maybe we would have got another creative mind to make him work though.
 

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4th option on a team.. Hopkins went out and Ertz was by far the best option for AZ. There’s a reason why Philly moved on and got better w out Ertz. Ertz is a fine player but no longer a star. Also has always been a terrible yac guy

Yeah on Philly. Ertz had his best YAC ever this season.

Uzomah isn't fit to clean Ertz jock. Get out of here if you think they are remotely comparable. Hell Maxx is better than Uzomah.
 

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1: 75/109 68.8% comp 4 tds to 2 ints, and three wins over the #1 seed and the best QB in the NFL is hardly "lucky".

2: The Bengals having a ton more talent is laughable. It may be arguable, but the Cardinals have the glaring advantage along the OL and TE. RB is a push between Mixon/Perine vs Edmonds/Conner. Bengals have an obvious advantage at WR without Hopkins.
The “Uber talented” Bengals had the third worst odds to make the Super Bowl, tied with the Jags.
 

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The “Uber talented” Bengals had the third worst odds to make the Super Bowl, tied with the Jags.
What they have is a legit Defense that has won games for them. People acting like Burrow is that whole team which is a complete joke! If we had their D we are likely playing in the SB as we would have collapsed late season of our pathetic D doesn’t routinely give up 30 to everyone…
 

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“Remotely competent”? I dunno.

Neither are going to consistently keep a team in Super Bowl contention—which should be our expectation as fans. But Keim isn’t Jack Easterby and Kliff isn’t Urban Meyer.

The problem is that you need someone to set the culture of the franchise, and we have Kliff, Keim, and Kyler. None of these guys are winners. None of these guys can drive a culture of winning.

But I don’t trust Michael to pick a new GM or Head Coach who will do so. Maybe we should revise our expectations down to “let’s have a fun-as-heck QB run around and do stuff for 10 weeks a year and see what happens”.
K9 is 100% right. It’s what I’ve been saying.

Keim
Kliff
Kyler

Nothing good comes from KKK

They ALL have big ugly warts.
 

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These kinda leaks are to help justify not giving a contact. However, its just setting up a potential breakup - trade.
If this is true, how do any of his teammates that still went out there and took their lumps ever play for that punk again?

And mind you, I’d still keep kyler over kliff and keim. But make no mistake, if that happened, the kid is a punk that has so far to grow up I’m unsure it’s likely to happen.

And anyone shrugging this off hasn’t played high level team sports. Your on field leader quit on you.
 

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This may well belong in the boring post thread, but here goes.

It's fairly well known here that I have experience with addiction. I attended AA meetings in a particular group for quite some time. Over the course of a year or so, the group became 'sick'. By that I mean people were fighting constantly, some dropped out of the group, stopped taking their meds, some started using again, just an unhealthy situation altogether, completely dysfunctional. I started to fall into the trap myself.

As it happened, I ran into an old timer who saw what was happening to the group. He told me, son, you have to go to some other group meetings to see what's wrong with yours, otherwise you won't be able to help them or yourself recover. Sage advice. I did so.

I liken the Cardinal organization to a similar situation. If Michael doesn't step out and take a hard look at it from the outside, he'll stay enmeshed in his own dysfunction indefinitely. You have to take a real hard uncompromising look in the mirror. You yourself won't recover if you don't allow others from outside your group to help you. You take what works and pitch the rest in the dumpster. You can't help others recover either, which is the whole point of life in my opinion. Dude, swallow your pride and ask for help from someone who has no stake in the outcome.


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This is a legitimately great post.
 

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If this is true, how do any of his teammates that still went out there and took their lumps ever play for that punk again?

And mind you, I’d still keep kyler over kliff and keim. But make no mistake, if that happened, the kid is a punk that has so far to grow up I’m unsure it’s likely to happen.

And anyone shrugging this off hasn’t played high level team sports. Your on field leader quit on you.

And he wants the big contract? No way, until he proves himself.
 
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Joe Burrow looked very pedestrian tonight, even with a solid run game and defense supporting him. Take away the long TD pass to Higgins that was the most absurd non-OPI call in history and his night was flat out bad. Forgive me for not believing the difference between our two teams is the quarterback.
 

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I wish it was someone other than Mortenson breaking the story, the same guy that repeatedly said Aaron Rodgers wanted out of Green Bay, Aaron Rodgers is done in Green Bay, he'll retire rather than play in Green Bay. 10 years ago Mort had good connections I'm not sure how accurate he is now.

The one about Kyler choosing not to go back in the game I don't like at all, but the Mortenson one to me sounds like as others said a teammate on the way out saying it, which has weight but is not necessarily the same as the organization saying it.

They gotta fix things though, this could escalate if they don't handle it correctly.
 

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