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Heading into next year.

I really like our up front guys

Shaq and Amare are solid about as good as it gets for PF/C combos in the NBA. I think we do need to adress someback up issues. I mean how freaking valuable was Kurt Thomas!! Your welcome SA

I like Grant Hill, but we should'nt be depending on him as muchas we did he needs to play limited minutes so he can be healthy at the end of the year.

Raja is solid.

Im my opnion Nash/Barbosa and Diaw can all be had for a good price
 

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Nash won't be traded. He won 2 MVPs in a Sun's uniform and will go into the ring of honor not to long after he retires as a Sun.
 
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Nash won't be traded. He won 2 MVPs in a Sun's uniform and will go into the ring of honor not to long after he retires as a Sun.
yeah just like we thought charles barkley would retire as a sun...

I agree with the OP, plus we need some defensive players. Try to trade barbs, i think we should keep diaw as a SF. Fire pringles for a defensive minded coach as well. The team needs more defensive discipline.
 

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The core of the roster is not that bad.
- We just need to jettison LB for some value, say Lowry, Jack, MikeMiller or who ever.
- Sign a solid backup 4/5 like Kurt Thomas, Diop. Skinner's lowpost D is not good enough.
- Remodel Nash after Stockton to play catch and shoot.
- Develop Amare's lowpost games on both ends with patience as much as possible.

We'll be in good shape with a smarter coach who manages rotation for the post season better.
 

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every major player on this team has MAJOR flaws that really won't be changed:

Nash - just too old and has never been able to play D
Raja - spot up shooting 2 guard with no offensive dribble game
Hill - injuries and age
Amare - disgusting talent with a pea sized brain
Shaq - injuries/age

Barbs - mental midget, too short to be a SG, no PG skills
Boris - too French too live
Giricek - good role player off the bench who will be offered five dollars and will walk

everyone else is a joke who doesn't belong on any NBA roster.

this team will get older, and that's about it next year. 7 or 8 seed, MAX.
 

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If you only play a 7 man rotation it is all for not. Ditch half our bench and get a point guard of the future. Nash has 2 more good years if he can stay healthy. His back is getting worse by the day and he looked really tired tonight.

Kerr will be coaching this team within 3 weeks.
 

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-Re-sign Giricek.
-Shaq becomes the most expensive rebounder ever
-fire D'Antoni
-hire a defensive coach or keep D'Antoni & hire defensive assistants.
-shop Nash,Diaw & Barbosa for draft picks
-work with Amare on defense
-work with D.J. on offense
-let G. Hill go unless he signs for the minimum
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A few things for starters but the SUNS approach really hinges on whether or not the FO decides to try to reload or rebuild. I vote for the latter.
 

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-Re-sign Giricek.
-Shaq becomes the most expensive rebounder ever
-fire D'Antoni
-hire a defensive coach
-shop Nash,Diaw & Barbosa for draft picks
-work with Amare on defense and getting a brain
-work with D.J. on offense, WITH THE HELP OF A NEW COACH
-let G. Hill go unless he signs for the minimum (That won't happen)
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A few things for starters but the SUNS approach really hinges on whether or not the FO decides to try to reload or rebuild. I vote for the latter.


otherwise, I agree.;)
 

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Hill may stay since the training staff has made him less injury prone, but it's more likely he'll go to NO, LAL, etc.
 

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Nash won't be traded. He won 2 MVPs in a Sun's uniform and will go into the ring of honor not to long after he retires as a Sun.
Yes, he won 2 MVPs in a Suns uniform. Yes, he will go into the Ring of Honor. That doesn’t mean we wouldn’t be wise to trade him this summer.
 

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They need a decent, serviceable back-up point guard who cand play well for 15-20 minutes per game. Make damn sure Giricek is back for next year and give him more playing time- kid is a perfect fit for this team. Skinner should be back too. If he is given consistent playing time backing up Shaq and Amare, he can be a good role player. Hire a defense-minded coach, and don't trade players and picks for nothing.
 

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The Suns will need to be extremely lucky next year to even compete at this level again. The Suns have to be relatively healthy heading into the playoffs(if we even make it) and draft an impact rookie. But we are old, fragile, and the 15th pick is no sure thing. The future doesn't look pretty. I hate San Antonio.
 

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every major player on this team has MAJOR flaws that really won't be changed:

Nash - just too old and has never been able to play D
Raja - spot up shooting 2 guard with no offensive dribble game
Hill - injuries and age
Amare - disgusting talent with a pea sized brain
Shaq - injuries/age

Barbs - mental midget, too short to be a SG, no PG skills
Boris - too French too live
Giricek - good role player off the bench who will be offered five dollars and will walk

everyone else is a joke who doesn't belong on any NBA roster.

this team will get older, and that's about it next year. 7 or 8 seed, MAX.


:yeahthat:
 

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this team will get older, and that's about it next year. 7 or 8 seed, MAX.

We are not making the playoffs next year, the same teams will be there except now portland will be in the fray.

Unless we make some very ballsy moves which is what we could do, such as trading barbosa in a sign and trade for artest (if we can't get a draft pick package) or something crazy like that.

With a revamped GS (they have a bit of caproom IIRC), denver, portland, dallas, and phoenix all trying to get the 7th and 8th seeds, the suns don't stand a chance.
 

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What is it with Artest? Artest isn't gonna do anything. Suns need a backup point guard so that Nash doesn't have to play more minutes than he can handle. See if you can get Hill and Giricek to come back and Suns are fine on 2 and 3 positions.
 

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They need a decent, serviceable back-up point guard who cand play well for 15-20 minutes per game. Make damn sure Giricek is back for next year and give him more playing time- kid is a perfect fit for this team. Skinner should be back too. If he is given consistent playing time backing up Shaq and Amare, he can be a good role player. Hire a defense-minded coach, and don't trade players and picks for nothing.

They have a decent backup PG. Nash.
 

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They have a decent backup PG. Nash.

What??? Who is better then Nash on this roster? What PG will be available in FA that will be better?

Nash made some stupid mistakes and might be on the downside but unless there is someone better...we need a backup PG.
 

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Nash - Can still be productive, but needs less minutes and ballhandling responsibilities. Run the offense through the post and let him catch and shoot.

Bell - Needs to come off the bench or at at the minimum play bench minutes. Bell is a spot shooter and defender, those guys shouldn't play more than 30 minutes a night.

Hill - Like Bell needs to come off the bench or get bench minutes.

Amare - Still part of the solution, but needs to spend his offseason in phoenix under the watchful eye of Kerr and the front office who actually realize what he needs to work on. No perfecting the halfcourt shot or some new dunk. Work on the back to the basket game and your defensive footwork. Get a clear understanding of what goes into becoming one of the greatest PF's to play the game.

Shaq - Pretty much done if the Hack-a-Shaq is allowed to continue in the NBA. His defense and offensive games no longer make up for his horrid FT shooting and at this point asking him to improve in that area is nonsense.

Barbosa - Not a good fit in any halfcourt system that requires defending. Needs to be looked at as trade bait.

Diaw - Two good games does not a good player make. Is anyone in LA claiming Luke Walton should be a focal point on next year's Laker team? That being said, I think he can find a role if he dedicates himself properly. He's a good facilitator and if the franchise dedicates itself to working out of the post (like pretty much every championship team in memory has) then he will be okay.

Giricek - Nice role player, would like him here if the money's right and the system fits but guys like him are a dime a dozen. I get the feeling our next coach will be a bit if a hard-ass which probably won't work.

Skinner - He's a big body that is serviceable.

So in my opinion, our needs if this entire team returns sans Barbosa and the individual players improve as suggested are...

- an athletic 2/3 that can get starters minutes while defending and creating
- backup PG
- maybe another shooter and frontcourt depth
 

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What is it with Artest? Artest isn't gonna do anything. Suns need a backup point guard so that Nash doesn't have to play more minutes than he can handle. See if you can get Hill and Giricek to come back and Suns are fine on 2 and 3 positions.

What do you mean what is it with artest? Not going to do anything?!?!

He can guard anyone on the floor, he would be great as a starter we can count on unlike diaw or injured hill. We could put him on duncan, and/or we could put him on tony parker for example.

Artest can shoot the ball, he is pretty decent from 3 range, but what is best is he knows how to slash to force the issue like lebron or tony parker can do. He is not like a barbosa who slashes like an idiot, he is a slasher that can put up some serious points like 30 points in a freakin' game and get us to the damn line for some free throws.

He is a crazy bastard, but he has a ridiculous versatile game and especially is versatile on defense (even moreso then marion, marion couldn't ever guard a center like duncan) and that is exactly what we need.

This team is done, now is the time to go and do something crazy if we want to compete next year instead of rebuilding. Artest is pretty much the only thing that we can take a gamble on. Especially if Hill retires.

Don't give me that "what is it with artest" bs. It is time to wake up and smell the fricking napalm that is this title run burning into flaming ruins.

I seriously doubt we could make the right decision on a backup PG if there is even a decent enough one out there to be had. I also wouldn't put much faith into whatever coach we get somehow teaching this team how to focus and especially play good defense. With people like Nash and Amare this team will always be terrible in some ways defensively.
 

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What do you mean what is it with artest? Not going to do anything?!?!

He can guard anyone on the floor, he would be great as a starter we can count on unlike diaw or injured hill. We could put him on duncan, and/or we could put him on tony parker for example.

Artest can shoot the ball, he is pretty decent from 3 range, but what is best is he knows how to slash to force the issue like lebron or tony parker can do. He is not like a barbosa who slashes like an idiot, he is a slasher that can put up some serious points like 30 points in a freakin' game and get us to the damn line for some free throws.

He is a crazy bastard, but he has a ridiculous versatile game and especially is versatile on defense (even moreso then marion, marion couldn't ever guard a center like duncan) and that is exactly what we need.

This team is done, now is the time to go and do something crazy if we want to compete next year instead of rebuilding. Artest is pretty much the only thing that we can take a gamble on. Especially if Hill retires.

Don't give me that "what is it with artest" bs. It is time to wake up and smell the fricking napalm that is this title run burning into flaming ruins.

I seriously doubt we could make the right decision on a backup PG if there is even a decent enough one out there to be had. I also wouldn't put much faith into whatever coach we get somehow teaching this team how to focus and especially play good defense. With people like Nash and Amare this team will always be terrible in some ways defensively.

Ok. We get Artest, then what? Nash still has to play 35+minutes. It doesn't solve anything. Back up point is number one priority. If you get a backup point, then you go after Artest, but Artest without a PG is not going to get you past SA, NO or LA.
 

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Artest is also a playmaker. Diaw type playmaker.

Plays PG-SG-SF-PF
 
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