Letter from Michael Bidwill

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I think it escalated to 66% for 2009 forcing the Owners to reject and opt ouit of the CBA. it was the final years forcing a new CBA set up just like a last year of a rookies contract.

What did the players take in the previous years of that agreement?

Are there figures to back it up? That seems to be the crux of the argument of the PA, that the owners are not being honest with ALL the bookeeping. I believe the word is transparent. They are not showing their full hand in revenues. Such as local agreements and advertising.

That's not including what the owners have worked on the side as buisnesses from the taxpayers footing the bill for the building of stadiums around the country.
 
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I posted a 2007 article that said the players planned to dissolve the union that far back.

But yea lots of numbers to back it up, the sAlary cap was 60%




What did the players take in the previous years of that agreement?

Are there figures to back it up? That seems to be the crux of the argument of the PA, that the owners are not being honest with ALL the bookeeping. I believe the word is transparent. They are not showing their full hand in revenues. Such as local agreements and advertising.

That's not including what the owners have worked on the side as buisnesses from the taxpayers footing the bill for the building of stadiums around the country.
 

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I know many that hate Wiki, but it is the the fastest line between to points for me.
fairly unbiased and sometimes have mistakes from posters. but hey ask the media to do something and they sale them selves or their product.
I like it toss it if you want.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League#Salaries
Player contracts and compensation
NFL players are all members of a union called the National Football League Players Association (NFLPA). The NFLPA negotiates the general minimum contract for all players in the league. This contract is called the Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA), and it is the central document that governs the negotiation of individual player contracts for all of the league's players. The current CBA has been in place since 1993, and was amended in 1998 and again in 2006. The NFL has not had any labor-related work stoppages since the 1987 season, which is longer than Major League Baseball (1994 and beginning of 1995 seasons), the NBA (1998-99 season) or the NHL (2004-05 season canceled). The current CBA was originally scheduled to expire at the end of the 2012 season, but in 2008 the owners exercised their right to opt out of the agreement two years early.[28][29]
Players are tiered into three different levels with regards to their rights to negotiate for contracts:
  • Players who have been drafted (see below), and have not yet played in their first year, may only negotiate with the team that drafted them.[28] If terms cannot be agreed upon, the players' only recourse is to refuse to play ("hold out") until terms can be reached. Players often use the threat of holding out as a means to force the hands of the teams that drafted them. For example, John Elway was drafted by the Baltimore Colts in 1983 but refused to play for them. He had a fallback option of baseball, as he had played in the New York Yankees organization for two summers while at Stanford. The Colts traded his rights to the Denver Broncos and Elway agreed to play.[30] Bo Jackson sat out an entire year in 1986, choosing to play baseball in the Kansas City Royals organization rather than play for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the team that had drafted him. He reentered the draft the following year, and was drafted and subsequently signed with the Los Angeles Raiders.[31]
  • Players that have played three full seasons in the league, and whose contract has expired are considered "Restricted Free Agents" (see below). They have limited rights to negotiate with any club.[28]
  • Players that have played four or more full seasons in the league, and whose contract has expired, are considered "Unrestricted Free Agents"(see below) and have unlimited rights to negotiate with any club. Teams may name a single player in any given year as a "Franchise Player" (see below), which eliminates much of that player's negotiation rights. This is a limited right of the team, however, and affects only a small handful of players each year.[28]
In the 2010 season, the CBA was not extended, thus changing the rules so that players don't become "Unrestricted Free Agents" until they have played at least six full seasons in the league. They will be "Restricted Free Agents" if they have three–five full seasons in the league.
Among the items covered in the CBA are:
  • The league minimum salary
  • The salary cap
  • The annual collegiate draft
  • Rules regarding "free agency"
  • Waiver rules
[edit] Salaries

A player's salary, as defined by the CBA, includes any "compensation in money, property, investments, loans or anything else of value to which an NFL player may be awarded" excluding such benefits as insurance and pension. A salary can include an annual pay and a one-time "signing bonus" which is paid in full when the player signs his contract. For the purposes of the salary cap (see below), the signing bonus is prorated over the life of the contract rather than to the year in which the signing bonus is paid.[32]
Player contracts are not guaranteed; teams are only required to pay on the contract as long as the player remains a member of the team. If the player is cut, or quits, for any reason, the balance of the contract is voided and the player receives no further compensation.[33]
Among other things, the CBA establishes a minimum salary for its players,[32] which is stepped-up as a player's years of experience increase. Players and their agents may negotiate with clubs for higher salaries, and frequently do.
[edit] Salary cap

The salary cap is defined as the maximum amount that a team may spend on player compensation (see above) in a given season, for all of its players combined. Unlike other leagues, for example the NBA (which permits certain exemptions) or Major League Baseball (which has a "soft cap" enforced by "luxury taxes"), the NFL has a "hard cap": an amount no team under any circumstances may exceed. The NFL also has a so-called "hard floor", a minimum payroll that each team is required to pay regardless of the circumstances.
The NFL salary cap is calculated by the current CBA to be 59.5% of the total projected league revenue for the upcoming year. This number, divided by the number of teams, determines an individual team's maximum salary cap. For 2008, this was approximately $116 million per team.[34] For 2009, it increased to $127 million.[35] As a result of the NFL owners opting out of the CBA two years early, in the absence of a new CBA 2010 will have no salary cap or floor.[29]
Teams and players often find creative ways to fit salaries under the salary cap. Early in the salary cap era, "signing bonuses" were used to give players a large chunk of money up front, and thus not count in the salary for the bulk of the contract. This led to a rule whereby all signing bonus are pro-rated equally for each year of the contract. Thus if a player receives a $10 million signing bonus for a five-year contract, $2 million per year would count against the salary cap for the life of the contract, even though the full $10 million was paid up front during the first year of the contract.[32]
Player contracts tend to be "back-loaded". This means that the contract is not divided equally among the time period it covers. Instead, the player earns progressively more and more each year. For instance, a player signing a four-year deal worth $10 million may get paid $1 million the first year, $2 million the second year, $3 million the third year, and $4 million the fourth year. If a team cuts this player after the first year, the final three years do not count against the cap. Any signing bonus, however, ceases to be pro-rated, and the entire balance of the bonus counts against the cap in the upcoming season.[32]
 

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The only team not a family business is the Packers. Cardinals spending cap for 2010 was 29th in the league.

Redskins: $178.2 million.

Cowboys: $166.5 million.

Saints: $145.0 million.

Vikings: $143.4 million.

Seahawks: $138.8 million.

Jets: $135.7 million.

Packers: $135.3 million.

Raiders: $135.2 million.

Colts: $133.1 million.

Bears: $131.9 million.

Eagles: $131.0 million.

Patriots: $128.8 million.

Giants: $128.6 million.

49ers: $125.9 million.

Dolphins: $123.8 million.

Texans: $123.1 million.

Lions: $122.9 million.

Steelers: $122.9 million.

Browns: $122.8 million.

Ravens: $122.3 million.

Falcons: $118.5 million.

Titans: $118.0 million.

Panthers: $110.9 million.

Rams: $109.1 million.

Chargers: $108.0 million.

Bills: $105.3 million.

Broncos: $102.9 million.

Bengals: $100.8 million.

Cardinals: $97.8 million.

Jaguars: $89.5 million.

Chiefs: $84.5 million.

Buccaneers: $80.8 million.

I noticed the Steelers spent $122,000,000 this past year. That's what the Cards spent for the 2008 season for their top 25 players.;)
 

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Funny, I got the same letter...I got about 2 sentences in before I said out loud, "Blah, blah blah", set it down & still haven't read it.

Half short attention span, half crappy Cardinals mood (still angry about how our season went).
 

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Funny, I got the same letter...I got about 2 sentences in before I said out loud, "Blah, blah blah", set it down & still haven't read it.

Half short attention span, half crappy Cardinals mood (still angry about how our season went).

Well then, you missed some decent stuff about the CBA and what ownership hopes to see going forward.

This season sucked, but it didn't suck nearly as bad as others. We won half (four) of our games scheduled at home, which is a big improvement over the seasons when we only won 3 or 4 games total. And, one of the games we lost was only by a three-pouint margin. Yeah, it wasn't as good as the past few years, but at least they gave the fans at home something to cheer about for most of the season.

I'm not saying we had an awesome or even great or decent season, but, over the years, I have seen WAY worse and, as someone who is going to renew next year, I appreciated the letter from ownership.
 
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Well then, you missed some decent stuff about the CBA and what ownership hopes to see going forward.

This season sucked, but it didn't suck nearly as bad as others. We won half (four) of our games scheduled at home, which is a big improvement over the seasons when we only won 3 or 4 games total. And, one of the games we lost was only by a three-pouint margin. Yeah, it wasn't as good as the past few years, but at least they gave the fans at home something to cheer about for most of the season.

I'm not saying we had an awesome or even great or decent season, but, over the years, I have seen WAY worse and, as someone who is going to renew next year, I appreciated the letter from ownership.

Did you know that has only happened once in the last 10 years? (2001-2010) There were so many in the 10 prior years (1991-2000) it just seems like it was a common occurrence more recently. The Cards have won at least half their home games 8 years in a row including 2003.

I'd say 2010 ranks right up there with 2003 and the dreadful 2000 season as the worst seasons in the last 15 years. We can't sugarcoat it, they were awful.
 

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Did you know that has only happened once in the last 10 years? (2001-2010) There were so many in the 10 prior years (1991-2000) it just seems like it was a common occurrence more recently. The Cards have won at least half their home games 8 years in a row including 2003.

I'd say 2010 ranks right up there with 2003 and the dreadful 2000 season as the worst seasons in the last 15 years. We can't sugarcoat it, they were awful.


totally agree, it was a miserable season. They didn't show up for any road games other than the lucky win in the first game against the Rams with rookie Bradford playing his first game.
 

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At the very minimum, ownership acknowledged the season's results were not acceptable. Similar letters from the dark years would have talked about the "excitement of NFL football" and the promise of a Emmitt Smith signing.

We will see if this indicates a commitment to winning or simply better pr skills.
 

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Did you know that has only happened once in the last 10 years? (2001-2010) There were so many in the 10 prior years (1991-2000) it just seems like it was a common occurrence more recently. The Cards have won at least half their home games 8 years in a row including 2003.

I'd say 2010 ranks right up there with 2003 and the dreadful 2000 season as the worst seasons in the last 15 years. We can't sugarcoat it, they were awful.

Yeah, I've had tickets since 1994 and we've almost always won at least 4 games at home, and were competitive in the rest (except for one blowout loss maybe). Of course, we've been one of the worst road teams in the NFL about 90% of the time.

This year, we had uglier losses than usual at home. The Rams, 49ers and Seahawks games were AWFUL to watch. Those were the games the Cards and Bidwill need to apologize for.
 

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I did not expect it but would like to know what they thought was the reason for this awful season. After being so competive then falling so quickly did the Cards learn anything?
 

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Most of the games were unwatchable. The MNF game against our rival might have been the worst three hours I spent all last year. I have really low standards of what I demand from my NFL team, even a modest level of competition will usually do it. With very few exceptions this team didn't approach anything that was an acceptable level of play. Its going to take a lot more than a letter of apology and some empty promises.
 

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I thought that it was a good gesture to us fans. I think he means to get things done in Cards land. The other point I would like to make is that the two highest paid teams from last year the Skins and Cowpokes. Both had bad seasons. Money can't buy you wins. MOney spent wisely can.

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At the very minimum, ownership acknowledged the season's results were not acceptable. Similar letters from the dark years would have talked about the "excitement of NFL football" and the promise of a Emmitt Smith signing.

We will see if this indicates a commitment to winning or simply better pr skills.

That is PR at work. The Cards know that season ticket sales will be impacted and that their customers are unhappy. The letter is a classic example of how people are taught to deal with unhappy customers.

As for the customers the one thing the organization has always done very well is take care of their fans. Their customer service has been phenomenal and the front office staff from ticket sales, to suite catering, to youth sports, and Cardinals Charities are the friendliest and most helpful people I have ever dealt with in organization of that stature.
 

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I didn't really see the point to the letter. Except maybe to head off any mass defections from season tix holders (that have been rumored).
 

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I didn't really see the point to the letter. Except maybe to head off any mass defections from season tix holders (that have been rumored).

You know they are leaving, but we will still sell out some of the games because of the opposing fans. Same old song.
 

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I noticed the Steelers spent $122,000,000 this past year. That's what the Cards spent for the 2008 season for their top 25 players.;)
And in 2009 they went to the SB. This year they pocketed 30 mill and are picking 5th. Well, I guess he used at least some of that 30 mill to send out these letters.
 

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I keep hearing about the Cards not spending last year but doesn't anyone think they didn't spend because of the CBA looming over their heads? Considering the Cardinal franchise is a business for the family I would think this had a lot to do with it. More than likely I'm wrong but it just seems the FO had their reasons.
I get tired of the family business excuse. They may be a family business but it also happnes to be one of the most profitable family businesses around. It's no excuse whatsoever. People tend to equate the Cards in the NFL to a local mom and pop grocery store trying to compete against Wal-Mart. That can't be further from the way it actually is.
 

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