Letting Breaston go?

[phillycard]

If the new CBA still allows for franchise tagging, you give it to him w/o thought. As it stands, our WRs in 2011 are Fitz followed by Early "glass jaw" Doucet (RFA), Andre Roberts, Stephen Williams and Max Komar.

That is a scary thought.

 

[JeffGollin]

A couple of thoughts -

1. Personnel decisions (especially about players you like but are worried about affording) are seldom made in a vacuum. They involve (a) other players on your roster at the same position, (b) who's out there in free agency, a trade or the draft, (c) the team's own budget/cap-ceiling issues, (d) what that player's presence or absence would mean within the context of the team's offensive scheme and the other players executing it. This Spring there's the added impediment of the potential lack of a contract and how this would limit acquiring guys thru trades and free agency.

2. I'm hoping the Cardinals learned from this past year's QB debacle - mainly that you should never take strength and depth at any key position for granted (i.e. let Breaston go - just like we let Q go - and our passing attack could very well start to crumple up domino after domino).

Bottom line - When you hear Graves and Wiz talk about the "core" group of players who define your football team, sometimes that core knows no boundary when it comes to position - i.e. you may wind up with 4 or 5 core players at WR. The lesson from a year ago, is - ignore the position-overload, and hang onto the core guys who make the team go. (i.e. Let them go at your peril).

In my opinion (from key grabs to his TD-saving TD from behind) Steve Breaston is one of those core guys and we'd be well-advised to do everything we can do to keep him.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

so, your theory is what is and my theory is schlock and garbage? Good way to communicate there. no one knows for sure why he left, but I don't slam the above as stupid or whatever else you want to say about mine. to each his own i guess.

Mines not a theory Cheese. Thats what Kurt has said. Blaming it on the crumbling house around him is silly when you realize he left 12 million on the table.

You only leave that amount of money on the table if your worried about hurting yourself or really do want to explore other options. Not because your worried your team is going to suck.

Especially when we know how important the HOF is to Kurt and he could have continued to pad his stats this year, good team or not.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Do your research, AZF, and find out what the 2010 Franchise number for WRs was, and then find out what Andre Johnson got. .

Ill meet you in the middle here.

Re-sign Fitz long-term and I wont be upset about a potential Breaston departure

You going to let him call you that TJ? Thats slanderous

I must be haunting K9's dreams for that kind of slip Either that or it was intentional and not funny.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Great thread.

I think all points are covered.

My biggest gripe about this whole situation is the "core player" plan.

Who is a core player on this team ?

And why were so many "core" players allowed to leave last year.

How is Breaston not a core player that embodies what this team believes in ?

To be honest, I feel foolish for listening to this B.S. from the front office over that last few years, because it is nothing but B.S. coming from the front office on paying players, and the "core" players.

Just a silly situation.

The Cardinals say they want to follow successful organizations, but screwing players who have earned extensions is not good business. Ask the Chargers about it.

 

[Buckybird]

To be honest, I feel foolish for listening to this B.S. from the front office over that last few years, because it is nothing but B.S. coming from the front office on paying players, and the "core" players.

Just a silly situation.

The Cardinals say they want to follow successful organizations, but screwing players who have earned extensions is not good business. Ask the Chargers about it.

A-freaking-men!!!

 

[Chopper0080]

Breaston is worth about 5 million a year, and not much more. I appreciate how hard he has worked and his production at times. However, he has had knee issues and may be looking for his pay day. Smart organizations spend money on players who are improving, healthy and are difficult to replace. I haven't seen enough from Breaston to believe that he meets these areas in relation to a top range salary.

5 million, which is solid #2 money.

 

[Buckybird]

I can't see where any team would have him pegged as a #1 WR and he won't command a big money deal like Dansby and Rolle did.

It will happen just like no one expected Pace, Dansby or Rolle getting their deals. Teams like the Rams & Chiefs are licking their chops to sign Breaston for $5-6 mil a year...watch!!! You could tell in Stevie B's eyes in the last 3 games he knows he's gone. His body language told me all I need to know. Sad but a reality.

 

[Snakester]

If we lose Breaston to free agency then I can see us drafting AJ Green with the fifth pick in the draft. I am warming to this idea more and more. If we can't get Andrew Luck then Green is probably the next best player in the draft.

 

[Stout]

If we lose Breaston to free agency then I can see us drafting AJ Green with the fifth pick in the draft. I am warming to this idea more and more. If we can't get Andrew Luck then Green is probably the next best player in the draft.

This would be the absolute height of folly. Letting one of your offensive weapons leave via FA, then picking a replacement in the draft that we can't guarantee is good instead of adding another piece. Why? Just re-sign the guy and draft someone at a different position.

 

[desertdawg]

This would be the absolute height of folly. Letting one of your offensive weapons leave via FA, then picking a replacement in the draft that we can't guarantee is good instead of adding another piece. Why? Just re-sign the guy and draft someone at a different position.

yamon.

 

[slanidrac16]

It would be just like the Cards let Breaston walk, draft Green with the plan of letting Fitz walk after 2011.

 

[Krangodnzr]

This would be the absolute height of folly. Letting one of your offensive weapons leave via FA, then picking a replacement in the draft that we can't guarantee is good instead of adding another piece. Why? Just re-sign the guy and draft someone at a different position.

Well Green has Fitz/Andre/Calvin potential, whereas Breaston is an injury-prone bodycatcher (have you ever noticed how often he catches with his body?).

But I do agree, and from a financial standpoint, why pay Green boatloads of cash when you could have paid Boldin? Boldin was a surething, proven NFL receiver that plays consistently at nearly an elite level.

I think the only way you take Green is if you plan on letting Fitz walk, but again that doesn't make any sense. Green likely won't reach Fitz's level and he'll get a payday close to what Fitz is making.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

It will happen just like no one expected Pace, Dansby or Rolle getting their deals. Teams like the Rams & Chiefs are licking their chops to sign Breaston for $5-6 mil a year...watch!!! You could tell in Stevie B's eyes in the last 3 games he knows he's gone. His body language told me all I need to know. Sad but a reality.

Pace was a bit surprising ut I completely espected Dansby and Rolle to get big deals. Those are reasons you don't let guys hit the market. At least with the Cards, they hardly ever re-sign. However,Graves MO throughout the years has been to let other teams set the market for the players rather than be proactive and keep them. It's like he has the Cardinals market price(lowball, hometown discount) and then there's the reality of the other 31 teams that really set the market.

 

[Buckybird]

Pace was a bit surprising ut I completely espected Dansby and Rolle to get big deals. Those are reasons you don't let guys hit the market. At least with the Cards, they hardly ever re-sign. However,Graves MO throughout the years has been to let other teams set the market for the players rather than be proactive and keep them. It's like he has the Cardinals market price(lowball, hometown discount) and then there's the reality of the other 31 teams that really set the market.

Cbus, I don't think we will ever experience again what we did in '08 until that philosphy has changed or until Mr. B has passed on...Sad but true.

 

[TJ]

You going to let him call you that TJ? Thats slanderous

I must be haunting K9's dreams for that kind of slip Either that or it was intentional and not funny.

Certainly wasnt, although it is hilarious to hear irrelevant statistics which have little consideration to other variables surrounding a situation. Im more interested to know what brand of cereal Fitz eats when he gets 100+ yards and 2 TDs in a game

I guess in that respect, he is a comedian