What would you give for Myles Garrett?

[slanidrac16]

Garrett is 2 years older and has a chronic foot condition, no? I think a 1st and a 2nd does it.

I think people forget about his condition.
Bigger risk than one might think.

 

[BritCard]

Why do you guys think Crosby would be cheaper?

Yeah, no chance of that.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

They don't have JITB in Colorado?

They do, but not within 30 min of where I live...

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Garrett is older, but he's also better.

I fancy Washington. Plenty of cap space. Good young QB. Not a million miles from where he already is.

FWIW I'm not sure at 29 if he's purely looking at championship teams. He's also going to want a new deal, so getting paid is an important part.

If Cards are offering more than Washington would he still choose Washington? I'm not convinced.

As in reigning defensive player of the year better.

I don't see a way that Miles gets traded for less than a 1st, and I see a scenario where Maxx gets traded for less than a first. Hell, I have been very wrong about trade value in the past, so who knows...

 

[Cardsfanstl]

I would give nothing better than a 2nd rd pick for him.

 

[Ronin]

Arizona Cardinals Make Biggest Jump In Odds To Trade For Myles Garrett - greatoffshoresportsbooks.com

The oddsmakers were asleep at the wheel when they originally made the Cardinals a longshot to trade for Myles Garrett, placing them alongside the Giants, Falcons and Panthers as the least likely landing spot in the NFL. The bettors were all over it, and Arizona has now climbed into the top half...

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[mjb21aztd]

mmm, I do miss Jack in the Box...

I loveddd jack box shakes sourdough jackss yummyyyy petf munchies heh wink) lol

 

[MadCardDisease]

I don't think he would come here but the people saying trade Murray for him are missing Kyler is the best chance we would have to get Garrett. They're good friends, they played together at A&M in 2015. If you remember after we beat the Browns a couple of years ago they met on the field after the game and were talking on camera, Kyler made some joke about Garrett putting him in his "graveyard."

IF Garrett were to come here I guarantee part of it would be his friendship with Kyler.

But I don't think he's coming here for the same reason most guys like that don't come here, they don't trust the ownership and front office to do everything it takes to win.

Totally forgot that Garrett and Murray are friends. Didn't realize that they have known each other since High School.

So maybe Garrett would consider the Cardinals with Kyler at QB?

 

[Stout]

Jack in the Box greasy tacos. Mmm...*drools*

 

[TRW]

Jack in the Box greasy tacos. Mmm...*drools*

Yum.

 

[CardNots]

nothing

 

[Ronin]

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[AZCB34]

On the other hand, Garrett doesn't seem like the type of player Monti is looking to acquire (veteran, expensive, higher trade value).

Productive, talented, an upgrade lol

 

[Chopper0080]

Garrett is older, but he's also better.

I fancy Washington. Plenty of cap space. Good young QB. Not a million miles from where he already is.

FWIW I'm not sure at 29 if he's purely looking at championship teams. He's also going to want a new deal, so getting paid is an important part.

If Cards are offering more than Washington would he still choose Washington? I'm not convinced.

I can’t think of a position player who was 29 and a team had to trade a first for him much less multiple 1sts.

 

[BritCard]

As in reigning defensive player of the year better.

I don't see a way that Miles gets traded for less than a 1st, and I see a scenario where Maxx gets traded for less than a first. Hell, I have been very wrong about trade value in the past, so who knows...

Maxx Crosby is a top 3 defensive player in the league. He doesn't get traded for less than 2 firsts and a bunch more.

 

[BritCard]

I can’t think of a position player who was 29 and a team had to trade a first for him much less multiple 1sts.

Richard Seymour was traded for pick #17.

The lack of historic comparisons is more to do with the scarcity of DPOY quality players ever being traded at that age. Usually they are already locked in with decent teams.

The comp really depends where he's going because a 1st that's top 15 is worth a lot more than one that's bottom 5.

If it's the Lions, Commanders, Chiefs etc it's surely going to be two 1st's plus more, especially as the Brown's don't want to trade.

If it's us, then more likely a single 1st plus a 2nd and more.

 

[BACH]

Why do you guys think Crosby would be cheaper?

He’s a top 8 edge rusher. Garrett is arguably the best defensive player in the league

 

[cardpa]

Here are some of the proposals being suggested by pundits.

• Buffalo: Two first-round picks, DE A.J. Epenesa and CB Kaiir Elam, plus some pick swaps that favor Cleveland.
• Chicago: Two firsts and a second.
• Washington: Two firsts, OT Brandon Coleman and DT Daron Payne, with the Browns including two late-round picks.

 

[ajcardfan]

What he's worth which is two 1sts and some mid rounds picks. Probably a 3rd and 5th.

Yeah, I'd pay that. Draft picks are overvalued.

Wherever you look at this trades 3-4 years later it's incredibly rare to see that the team had value from the draft picks they got.

Yes, I agree with this. I hope we at least try to get into the mix.

But, I doubt we even entertain the idea.

 

[ajcardfan]

Seriously, I would offer KM as part of the package. #16 this year, KM, and a sprinkle of later picks? In a heartbeat.

Sure, that's all well and good. And, then Garrett is looking at a team with Clayton Tune as it's #1 QB and no viable alternative to get better at that position beyond a miracle. That's the situation he wants out of in Cleveland.

 

[Chopper0080]

Richard Seymour was traded for pick #17.

The lack of historic comparisons is more to do with the scarcity of DPOY quality players ever being traded at that age. Usually they are already locked in with decent teams.

The comp really depends where he's going because a 1st that's top 15 is worth a lot more than one that's bottom 5.

If it's the Lions, Commanders, Chiefs etc it's surely going to be two 1st's plus more, especially as the Brown's don't want to trade.

If it's us, then more likely a single 1st plus a 2nd and more.

So, 15 years ago the Raiders traded a single first round pick for a 30 year old Richard Seymour. Maybe you are correct that 29 year old Myles Garrett will generate a historic level of compensation for his services. I do think it is more likely to be a single 1st round pick than two. Maybe the Browns can convince a team to give a conditional pick that gets to an additional 1st, but even that seems like a stretch. My guess is that a trade includes a 1st and a player as the main components.

 

[Chopper0080]

Here are some of the proposals being suggested by pundits.

• Buffalo: Two first-round picks, DE A.J. Epenesa and CB Kaiir Elam, plus some pick swaps that favor Cleveland.
• Chicago: Two firsts and a second.
• Washington: Two firsts, OT Brandon Coleman and DT Daron Payne, with the Browns including two late-round picks.

I think these are really far off so I am curious to see where this goes.

In regards to Buffalo, they are 15 mil over the cap as of right now. Obviously teams work around these numbers all the time, but I think Garrett would add 12 mil for 2025 which then makes them 27 mil over the cap. The cap implications is what makes this a tougher negotiation because there are only so many teams who will want to put themselves in a cap crunch as well as give up high draft picks.

The Bears giving up the 10 pick + another 1st is kinda laughable to me but who knows. I can see giving up 10 as they have the money and he probably fits what they want to do, but I feel that team still has lots of holes that need to be filled.

 

[BritCard]

He’s a top 8 edge rusher. Garrett is arguably the best defensive player in the league

Crosby plays with absolutely no other threats on that D line. He's double teamed all the time and still gets double digit sacks.

Garrett is a beast and likely the best DE in the league but he's always had other good players on that line. Za'Darius Smith, Clowney, Vernon, Richardson, Ogunjobi, Ogbah etc. Maxx hasn't had nearly the same supporting cast.

Top 3 DE for me behind Garrett and Watt.