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Now let's deal with what you actually wrote:

"I don't see any way P2 opts out in a contract year for what will likely be his last contract" .

"Likely be his last contract" suggests he will not receive a contract beyond the existing agreement.

What part of that baseless speculation on your part don't you understand?

What part of contract year don't you understand?

If I mean't this was his last contract I would have said "No way P2 opts out in the last year of his career"

Let me translate for you

"I don't see any way P2 opts out when he's negotiating a new deal for what will likely be his last contract"

Considering that's what contract year means.
 

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you keep using other countries that have gotten control of covid as baselines while IGNORING THAT OUR COUNTRY IS A RUNAWAY FREIGHTRAIN OF COVID DISASTER.

this is not hard to understand.

Is it?

Your not even top 10 in deaths per million.

The USA is internationally unique. While you are technically one country in reality, especially in the way this pandemic is managed, you are 50 different countries.

Those that got whacked early on like New York are now doing fine. Those that didn't like California are now having big increases in infections.

Because of this the graphs for the USA as a whole look unique and some are saying the "USA is doing poorly" or having a "2nd wave". But there isn't a centralized US response, it's very much been 50 individual responses and as a result you are seeing 50 very different epidemiological paths lumped together.
 

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Is it?

Your not even top 10 in deaths per million.

The USA is internationally unique. While you are technically one country in reality, especially in the way this pandemic is managed, you are 50 different countries.

Those that got whacked early on like New York are now doing fine. Those that didn't like California are now having big increases in infections.

Because of this the graphs for the USA as a whole look unique and some are saying the "USA is doing poorly" or having a "2nd wave". But there isn't a centralized US response, it's very much been 50 individual responses and as a result you are seeing 50 very different epidemiological paths lumped together.
Yeah, well, some of that could have been fixed with a decent federal response and more.

No matter how you cut it, so we don't go fully P&R and get another thread moved, these players are playing in hot zones, traveling, and not in a bubble. There's simply going to be exposure. I'm not sure why someone who doesn't live here is so insistent we're wrong, those of us living right in the middle of the calamity.
 

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Yeah, well, some of that could have been fixed with a decent federal response and more.

No matter how you cut it, so we don't go fully P&R and get another thread moved, these players are playing in hot zones, traveling, and not in a bubble. There's simply going to be exposure. I'm not sure why someone who doesn't live here is so insistent we're wrong, those of us living right in the middle of the calamity.

I didn't say you were wrong. I simply gave you some facts and facts are never wrong.

What part of anything I said was incorrect? I can show you graphs if you like that show every single state that has high deaths now had low deaths in March/April/May.

And those that have very few deaths now had loads back when. Same goes with infections.

To say a country as geographically huge and disparate as the USA is "doing badly" simply isn't true. Texas, Florida, and LA made up nearly half your deaths yesterday. States that had very few deaths before. Only 6 states had 50 or more deaths yesterday.

The vast, vast majority of the country is doing pretty well considering. The idea that the virus is everywhere in every state simply isn't true.

It's factually correct to say it's currently largely concentrated on 3 of your largest, most populous states.
 

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Is it?

Your not even top 10 in deaths per million.

The USA is internationally unique. While you are technically one country in reality, especially in the way this pandemic is managed, you are 50 different countries.

Those that got whacked early on like New York are now doing fine. Those that didn't like California are now having big increases in infections.

Because of this the graphs for the USA as a whole look unique and some are saying the "USA is doing poorly" or having a "2nd wave". But there isn't a centralized US response, it's very much been 50 individual responses and as a result you are seeing 50 very different epidemiological paths lumped together.

The US is #10 in deaths per million, but throwing out tiny San Marino and Andorra, we are #8. We passed France today.
 

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I didn't say you were wrong. I simply gave you some facts and facts are never wrong.

What part of anything I said was incorrect? I can show you graphs if you like that show every single state that has high deaths now had low deaths in March/April/May.

And those that have very few deaths now had loads back when. Same goes with infections.

To say a country as geographically huge and disparate as the USA is "doing badly" simply isn't true. Texas, Florida, and LA made up nearly half your deaths yesterday. States that had very few deaths before. Only 6 states had 50 or more deaths yesterday.

The vast, vast majority of the country is doing pretty well considering. The idea that the virus is everywhere in every state simply isn't true.

It's factually correct to say it's currently largely concentrated on 3 of your largest, most populous states.

Not that is not factually correct. Southern States like Louisiana, Georgia, TN, SC, Alabama and Mississippi are doing as bad or worse than Texas, FL or California
 

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What part of contract year don't you understand?

If I mean't this was his last contract I would have said "No way P2 opts out in the last year of his career"

Let me translate for you

"I don't see any way P2 opts out when he's negotiating a new deal for what will likely be his last contract"

Considering that's what contract year means.

Now, if you had actually written such in more concise form, I wouldn't have responded WTF.
 

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I'm getting to the point where I don't even want to research or discuss Fantasy Football because it feels like there's more productive things I could do with my time. Even if it's played I kinda feel like it's not the same.

The group I play with already canceled our season. There will be no way of keeping up with the comings and goings of these players. That doesn’t sound very fun to me imo
 

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The group I play with already canceled our season. There will be no way of keeping up with the comings and goings of these players. That doesn’t sound very fun to me imo

are you kidding? The waiver wire and FA Frenzy all year is going to be ridiculously entertaining this season. My group is all in.
 

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are you kidding? The waiver wire and FA Frenzy all year is going to be ridiculously entertaining this season. My group is all in.

brother not ouchie just came up with another wrinkle... Fantasy Football Survivor Season. Regular draft, but NO WAIVERS. It’s literally last man standing.
 

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lol.. I thought of that too.

anyone who’s bailing on their leagues must not do live drafts with good friends. That single event is the best part of the season most years.
I play in 7 leagues each year, but this is not the year for live drafts for the most part. I might attend two small drafts where five guys or so get together, and the rest videoconference in.

Jumping from draft to draft to draft over a few weekends is exactly what we're trying to avoid with bars and such.
 

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I play in 7 leagues each year, but this is not the year for live drafts for the most part. I might attend two small drafts where five guys or so get together, and the rest videoconference in.

Jumping from draft to draft to draft over a few weekends is exactly what we're trying to avoid with bars and such.

I mean live as in you’re all doing it together via conference call or zoom as opposed to auto draft or doing it without getting to talk trash to each other. Live IN PERSON DRAFT? Oh hell no this year... and we haven’t even been able to pull off actual live in person drafts for a decade with us all spread across the country. But we still get on A mass conference call and get a little loopy talking trash.

with zoom now, being able to see each other it’s gonna be even more fun.
 

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I suggested only having 15 round in our 12 team league. Usually it’s 17. But I want us to leave the 16th and 17th spot empty For Covid casualties plus one IR spot. If we draft 17 and you lose 3 or 4 key players To Covid your fantasy year is over.
 

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Is it?

Your not even top 10 in deaths per million.

The USA is internationally unique. While you are technically one country in reality, especially in the way this pandemic is managed, you are 50 different countries.

Those that got whacked early on like New York are now doing fine. Those that didn't like California are now having big increases in infections.

Because of this the graphs for the USA as a whole look unique and some are saying the "USA is doing poorly" or having a "2nd wave". But there isn't a centralized US response, it's very much been 50 individual responses and as a result you are seeing 50 very different epidemiological paths lumped together.
That’s true. And all those football teams play in a single state that has this under control . . . oh no, wait, that’s not right . . .
 

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I suggested only having 15 round in our 12 team league. Usually it’s 17. But I want us to leave the 16th and 17th spot empty For Covid casualties plus one IR spot. If we draft 17 and you lose 3 or 4 key players To Covid your fantasy year is over.
We have extra COVID-reserve slots this year. And if you pick up someone as a COVID replacement and start them there’s no $10 waiver charge. If they just sit your bench you incur the charge.
 

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Now let's deal with what you actually wrote:

"I don't see any way P2 opts out in a contract year for what will likely be his last contract" .

"Likely be his last contract" suggests he will not receive a contract beyond the existing agreement.

What part of that baseless speculation on your part don't you understand?
Work on your American... I understood him just fine

but I’ve been to Texas
 

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Now let's deal with what you actually wrote:

"I don't see any way P2 opts out in a contract year for what will likely be his last contract" .

"Likely be his last contract" suggests he will not receive a contract beyond the existing agreement.

What part of that baseless speculation on your part don't you understand?
Work on your American... I understood him just fine

but I’ve been to Texas
 

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Now let's deal with what you actually wrote:

"I don't see any way P2 opts out in a contract year for what will likely be his last contract" .

"Likely be his last contract" suggests he will not receive a contract beyond the existing agreement.

What part of that baseless speculation on your part don't you understand?
Work on your American... I understood him just fine

but I’ve been to Texas
 

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Not that is not factually correct. Southern States like Louisiana, Georgia, TN, SC, Alabama and Mississippi are doing as bad or worse than Texas, FL or California

Worse how? On what metric?

Because ultimately there's only one that matters and that's deaths. Those 6 states combines had 211 deaths yesterday.

Only 15 states had 20 or more deaths yesterday. 59% of all the USA deaths yesterday were in 4 states. Every single one of them are seeing decreases in the rolling 7 day average of infections and football is 6 weeks away.

If you took away those 4 states I think the vast majority of you would be singing a very different tune on how well things were going right now.

You can even drill down further due to the size of those states which are larger than most countries. Texas has 254 counties of which only 52 had a death yesterday. 41 of those were 2 or less. The vast majority of the Texas problem is in Hidalgo and Harris.

Same with Florida. More than half their total deaths are in Miami-Dade, Broward and Pasco. In California it's LA and Orange County.
 
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