Logan Thomas Claimed by Dolphins

[Russ Smith]

One thing which Arians also looks for is intelligence and that is one thing which Barkley, Stanton and Palmer do have which Thomas seemingly did not have. That is hard to gauge without putting a QB into a system and the allure of his athletic ability prompting Arians and Keim to take a chance... sounds cruel on my behalf, but Logan was cut because he was probably football stupid for the position of being a NFL QB

I don't know what you call it but I have to assume there's a reason that Arians made the comment about Logan's TD pass against Denver last year. that it was a fluke play wasn't the issue said BA, the issue was if he knew the play and the defense, he should have never even been looking that way let alone thrown the ball.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Bucannon is still going to play a ton of ILB this year. Probably still his primary position. He's the guy who is going to take snaps away from Minter this year.

Report is that Minter has lost 20 pounds and they believe he can stay on the field on passing downs. To be seen....

 

[MadCardDisease]

So me watching him in camp is irrelevant because you watch him in preseason games against guys who are not even in the NFL this week?

Yep I watched LT in practice as well and he looked god aweful! I'm actually shocked that someone picked him up off waivers. One mans trash is another mans treasure I guess.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

“Just processing information,” Coach Bruce Arians said when asked what Thomas needed to improve upon. “He had a really good ballgame (in preseason), just wasn’t there every single day.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...-confident-he-can-succeed-cardinals/71902818/

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

If he can perform in game situations that's all that matters to me. Growth is growth and being a practice all star means nothing unless you show up on games. Gave up on him too early, IMO...

 

[Shaggy]

If he can perform in game situations that's all that matters to me. Growth is growth and being a practice all star means nothing unless you show up on games. Gave up on him too early, IMO...

Yep, I agree. Wish they decided to keep him on. Not a big fan of the Barkley pick up, as of yet anyways.

 

[kerouac9]

If he can perform in game situations that's all that matters to me. Growth is growth and being a practice all star means nothing unless you show up on games. Gave up on him too early, IMO...

So maybe we should sign Tim Tebow and Vince Young? How can coaches understand how to call the offense if the player can't execute it in practice? Is it fair to his teammates that they can't hone their craft or build upon set expectations because Logan Thomas can't play football very well from Monday to Saturday?

 

[gmabel830]

If he can perform in game situations that's all that matters to me. Growth is growth and being a practice all star means nothing unless you show up on games. Gave up on him too early, IMO...

1/9 with the one being a pass he never should have thrown is how he performed in game situations. Unless you are talking about how he did against insurance salesmen?

 

[Buckybird]

1/9 with the one being a pass he never should have thrown is how he performed in game situations. Unless you are talking about how he did against insurance salesmen?

Hey wait, preseason against 3-4 stringers doesn't count?

 

[DakotaCardsFan]

Hey wait, preseason against 3-4 stringers doesn't count?

Denny Green disagrees.

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Dang, that never gets old!

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

So maybe we should sign Tim Tebow and Vince Young? How can coaches understand how to call the offense if the player can't execute it in practice? Is it fair to his teammates that they can't hone their craft or build upon set expectations because Logan Thomas can't play football very well from Monday to Saturday?

He was drafted as a development project and he was clearly progressing. They gave him a whopping 18 months to develop. It's stupid. 18 months is not enough time. I'm not saying he's starter material, but looks to me like he was heading toward a valuable backup status.

 

[Austin Zonie]

He was drafted as a development project and he was clearly progressing. They gave him a whopping 18 months to develop. It's stupid. 18 months is not enough time. I'm not saying he's starter material, but looks to me like he was heading toward a valuable backup status.

The clearly progressing part is getting you in trouble. I'm sure he'd still be on our roster if the coaches shared your sentiment.

 

[Bert]

Bert---please read my post again. I wasn't dissing you at all, I even said you were making a good point that you had witnessed directly. And all I said is it's mystifying to me (in light of how inaccurate he was at some practices) how accurate he was the last two games.

That wasn't meant as a knock to you, nor was I trying to flex my ego. In fact, I have been swallowing hefty slices of humble pie for standing by my feeling that the Cardinals gave up too soon on Thomas---it's certainly not the popular opinion, is it?

Honestly, I don't have to be right. I am expressing my opinions---and they are not always right, nor would I pretend that they are. I get attached to some of these players and get hopeful.

I felt really bad when they let Dockett go ahead and sign with the 49ers. I was bummed and not only expressed it here but called MJ's show twice to express my disappointment. Was I right? Doesn't look like to now, does it? But I still miss Dock and was hoping if the Cardinals ever hoist the Lombardi that he was one of the Bird gangers hoisting it.

When you were giving us your reports from camp I was one of the ones writing in to thank you. Your posts were great and it was like you were the eyes for all of us who weren't there. I hope you do so again next year. I think I even mentioned you as ASFN MVP. That's the way I felt.

I never ever intended to insult you or disrespect you. I hope you can recognize that.

My post was a severe overreaction on my part, I apologize Mitch.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I think this may sum it up on Thomas vs. Barkley

my text: who's better Logan Thomas or Matt Barkley?
Scout response: Flip a coin, they both stink.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I think this may sum it up on Thomas vs. Barkley

my text: who's better Logan Thomas or Matt Barkley?
Scout response: Flip a coin, they both stink.

Lol...

So we traded out a QB who has all the tools but no acumen for a QB will all the acumen but no tools?

 

[Dude]

The clearly progressing part is getting you in trouble. I'm sure he'd still be on our roster if the coaches shared your sentiment.

+1

No way they dump him if they thought he had any shot.

 

[kerouac9]

He was drafted as a development project and he was clearly progressing. They gave him a whopping 18 months to develop. It's stupid. 18 months is not enough time. I'm not saying he's starter material, but looks to me like he was heading toward a valuable backup status.

I don't think that is clear. Listen to this week's Cards Underground podcast, and you'll hear Darren Urban saying that the Logan Thomas he saw this camp looked exactly like the one from last camp.

The clearly professing part is getting you in trouble. I'm sure he'd still be on our roster if the coaches shared your sentiment.

+1

Do you think that Logan Thomas was developing into a potential starter and the Cards were just like, "Screw this guy and his soul patch"? Why would they do that?

 

[Dude]

+1

Do you think that Logan Thomas was developing into a potential starter and the Cards were just like, "Screw this guy and his soul patch"? Why would they do that?

Just claimed off waivers.

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[kerouac9]

I haven't read all of this yet, but Deadspin has a nice summary of a W$J article regarding just how unprepared college QBs are for the NFL today.

http://deadspin.com/college-qbs-are...://deadspin.com/?hipra_discussion_redesign=on

 

[Matt L]

I haven't read all of this yet, but Deadspin has a nice summary of a W$J article regarding just how unprepared college QBs are for the NFL today.

http://deadspin.com/college-qbs-are...://deadspin.com/?hipra_discussion_redesign=on

That's an interesting article and is probably worthy of its own thread. Here are some things that come to my mind after first reading:

1. Football is an innovative sport. Most of these coaches seem to be complaining that they things they did 5, 10, or 15 years ago are not currently working. Guess what, the Wing T offense that my high school football team ran 20 years ago would not work in the NFL, nor in top college programs and probably not in top high school football programs either. The game changes, the league constantly makes changes to the game to keep it exciting and entertaining. These coaches have to adapt or they will be out.

2. A Football Minor League or Developmental League sounds like a benefit to the product (the NFL) but an overall loss for the league (if it was an independent football league) itself or the NFL if they were to own and sponsor the league.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Harold Jones Quartey brings more value to this football team and is a better football player than all of the following:

S Chris Clemons
LB Kenny Demens
DE Ed Stinson
LB LaMarr Woodley
T Bradley Sowell
WR Brittan Golden
QB Matt Barkley

Plus---we are planning to play packages with 4-5 of our safeties---there is need for depth at the position---AND---Deone Bucannon is going to spend a great deal of time at LB.

That tough-nosed kid earned his way onto the roster.

Mitch, I have no idea where you are getting this from.

This guy got torched time and time again, and was out of position more times than not.

The only person I could even fathom getting rid of to make room for a player like this is maybe Sowell.

You would seriously take a safety that is too slow, and gets caught consistently looking in the backfield instead of a starting OLBer, a proven NFL special teams talent, and decent backup linebacker, a solid defensive end, a proven safety that can also play corner, a backup OT with experience, a QB, and a wide reciever that plays better special teams than Quarley-Jones.

Also the fact you have 5 safeties on the team ?

So the Bears whose secondary is atrocious sign the guy.

Maybe you are seeing something I am not, but a couple big hits, and most after someone else has already taken a piece of the guy, is not going to get you in the NFL.

 

[eastcoastSUN]

Welp, that didn't last long: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/11/dolphins-promote-jonas-gray-waive-logan-thomas/

Can we bring him back in as a TE?

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

Welp, that didn't last long: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/11/dolphins-promote-jonas-gray-waive-logan-thomas/

Can we bring him back in as a TE?

Why in the hell does everyone keep yapping about making him a freaking TE???????????

The guy has the physical tools to match the best QB's that have ever played the game, so it's obvious his shortcoming is the mental end of the game.

So you overcome the fact that he's not very bright.. By changing him to an entirely different position, when it was clear he couldn't grasp one he's been working on for years??????

 

[Austin Zonie]

Why in the hell does everyone keep yapping about making him a freaking TE???????????

The guy has the physical tools to match the best QB's that have ever played the game, so it's obvious his shortcoming is the mental end of the game.

So you overcome the fact that he's not very bright.. By changing him to an entirely different position, when it was clear he couldn't grasp one he's been working on for years??????

To be fair, it's much easier to grasp the TE position compared to the most difficult position in all of sports, the QB.