Logan Thomas Claimed by Dolphins

[Bert]

I can't believe there is all of this hemming and hawing over someone who was so bad, that he couldn't unseat Ryan Lindley off the street.

Two weeks ago he was going to be cut for an undrafted free agent.

It was a terrible draft pick at the time, a HUGE reach because if you aren't accurate in college, you aren't accurate in the NFL. It just doesn't happen.

Amen.

 

[FlaCardFan]

Thank you.......

 

[BigRedRage]

I can't believe there is all of this hemming and hawing over someone who was so bad, that he couldn't unseat Ryan Lindley off the street.

Two weeks ago he was going to be cut for an undrafted free agent.

It was a terrible draft pick at the time, a HUGE reach because if you aren't accurate in college, you aren't accurate in the NFL. It just doesn't happen.

Agreed. I have 0 issues with our cuts.

 

[FrustratedFan04]

I can't believe there is all of this hemming and hawing over someone who was so bad, that he couldn't unseat Ryan Lindley off the street.

Two weeks ago he was going to be cut for an undrafted free agent.

It was a terrible draft pick at the time, a HUGE reach because if you aren't accurate in college, you aren't accurate in the NFL. It just doesn't happen.

Right on the money! Who cares about this guy at all now, as far as the Cardinal's are concerned? Personally I hope his life is full and happy but as far as the Big Red he's gone, and rightly so IMO. If he becomes a star in Miami will that add any "W's" to us? These guys want to win NOW and believe the future will take care of itself. In the NFL it was never truer: "money talks and bull**** walks".

 

[Bert]

Did any of these people who are freaking out go to a day of camp? Listen we're all glad that LT had some shining moments against non-NFL players in the 4th quarter of some presason games, good for him, but he was consistently bad in practice. He airmailed more passes than anyone else, and I am not exagurrating, go back and look at any of the camp reports, Logan Thomas threw ATLEAST 2 interceptions at every single camp day I attended. And that continued throughout camp. He never improved! He just kept throwing picks.

This is the most outrage EVER over a guy who for two consecutive years has failed to win the QB3 position. Lets put it this way, Logan Thomas failed to impress the coaches so badly, that he couldn't even beat out the POSSIBILITY that MATT BARKLEY MIGHT be good with some coaching from Tom Moore.

Also this is not just BA's input being put in here. Do people forget that we have Tom Moore on our staff who is widely regarded as the best QB coach in the NFL? If he and BA dont think LT has what it takes, I believe them, because they know more about football and THIS TEAM than you do.

Also, go through the list of last years 4th round picks for all NFL teams. About half of them are either with new teams or aren't even in the league. So please spare me the outcry about how terrible BASK is for wasting this super valuable pick that should be a superstar player. Yea it sucks that our 4th rounder didn't work out, and I know you guys like to feed your negativity monkey's anything that will make a turd, but give me a break.

 

[Buckybird]

I can't believe there is all of this hemming and hawing over someone who was so bad, that he couldn't unseat Ryan Lindley off the street.

Two weeks ago he was going to be cut for an undrafted free agent.

It was a terrible draft pick at the time, a HUGE reach because if you aren't accurate in college, you aren't accurate in the NFL. It just doesn't happen.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I have to believe this reaction is tied to how desperate we are to having a "Future QB" that we are clinging to any tiny bit of hope that we have one on the roster.

We didn't and we still don't (With Barkley)

 

[BigRedRage]

I have to believe this reaction is tied to how desperate we are to having a "Future QB" that we are clinging to any tiny bit of hope that we have one on the roster.

We didn't and we still don't (With Barkley)

If Barkley makes it past week 6, I will assume he has looked good enough to replace drew as our #2.

 

[Mitch]

Did any of these people who are freaking out go to a day of camp? Listen we're all glad that LT had some shining moments against non-NFL players in the 4th quarter of some presason games, good for him, but he was consistently bad in practice. He airmailed more passes than anyone else, and I am not exagurrating, go back and look at any of the camp reports, Logan Thomas threw ATLEAST 2 interceptions at every single camp day I attended. And that continued throughout camp. He never improved! He just kept throwing picks.

This is the most outrage EVER over a guy who for two consecutive years has failed to win the QB3 position. Lets put it this way, Logan Thomas failed to impress the coaches so badly, that he couldn't even beat out the POSSIBILITY that MATT BARKLEY MIGHT be good with some coaching from Tom Moore.

Also this is not just BA's input being put in here. Do people forget that we have Tom Moore on our staff who is widely regarded as the best QB coach in the NFL? If he and BA dont think LT has what it takes, I believe them, because they know more about football and THIS TEAM than you do.

Also, go through the list of last years 4th round picks for all NFL teams. About half of them are either with new teams or aren't even in the league. So please spare me the outcry about how terrible BASK is for wasting this super valuable pick that should be a superstar player. Yea it sucks that our 4th rounder didn't work out, and I know you guys like to feed your negativity monkey's anything that will make a turd, but give me a break.

Good point and you saw some of his practice performances---which btw, here in New England, Tom Brady is notorious for throwing 2-3 interceptions a practice. He says that's the place to take risks, not during games.

What mystifies me is his two game winning performances: 3/5, 68 yards and then 9/10, 116 yards and 1 TD...leading 3 TD drives, 2 of the TD drives are game winners on the road and Raiders and Broncos fans were pretty noisy for pre-season games.

Sure, one can say he was playing against 3rd stringers, but inaccuracy is inaccuracy no matter who one is playing against, and even versus the Broncos' 2nd stringers in the 3rd quarter, Thomas was not missing his targets and his pass protection was not very good.

 

[Bert]

Good point and you saw some of his practice performances---which btw, here in New England, Tom Brady is notorious for throwing 2-3 interceptions a practice. He says that's the place to take risks, not during games.

What mystifies me is his two game winning performances: 3/5, 68 yards and then 9/10, 116 yards and 1 TD...leading 3 TD drives, 2 of the TD drives are game winners on the road and Raiders and Broncos fans were pretty noisy for pre-season games.

Sure, one can say he was playing against 3rd stringers, but inaccuracy is inaccuracy no matter who one is playing against, and even versus the Broncos' 2nd stringers in the 3rd quarter, Thomas was not missing his targets and his pass protection was not very good.

So me watching him in camp is irrelevant because you watch him in preseason games against guys who are not even in the NFL this week?

You got it Mitch. You know better than the coaches. Clearly Lt is the next Brady. You have gotten to the point where there is no point even discussing this stuff with you because you're ego is so massive that you won't even consider anyone else's opinion. It's not a discussion with you, because you're never wrong.

I give up trying to be reasonable with you. Have a great day.

 

[Azlen]

There is a lot of stuff, especially with QBs, that we as fans don't see. Film room sessions, closed practices, meetings etc. What were the specific things he was asked to work on and how well did he progress in those areas? What did he see when he threw those interceptions in practice. Was it about taking a risk or was he just misreading the defense? Obviously they could see how he performed in pre-season games but with all the information they had, they made the decision that he wasn't worth keeping on the roster. I'm not going to lose sleep over him getting cut.

 

[Mitch]

So me watching him in camp is irrelevant because you watch him in preseason games against guys who are not even in the NFL this week?

You got it Mitch. You know better than the coaches. Clearly Lt is the next Brady. You have gotten to the point where there is no point even discussing this stuff with you because you're ego is so massive that you won't even consider anyone else's opinion. It's not a discussion with you, because you're never wrong.

I give up trying to be reasonable with you. Have a great day.

Bert---please read my post again. I wasn't dissing you at all, I even said you were making a good point that you had witnessed directly. And all I said is it's mystifying to me (in light of how inaccurate he was at some practices) how accurate he was the last two games.

That wasn't meant as a knock to you, nor was I trying to flex my ego. In fact, I have been swallowing hefty slices of humble pie for standing by my feeling that the Cardinals gave up too soon on Thomas---it's certainly not the popular opinion, is it?

Honestly, I don't have to be right. I am expressing my opinions---and they are not always right, nor would I pretend that they are. I get attached to some of these players and get hopeful.

I felt really bad when they let Dockett go ahead and sign with the 49ers. I was bummed and not only expressed it here but called MJ's show twice to express my disappointment. Was I right? Doesn't look like to now, does it? But I still miss Dock and was hoping if the Cardinals ever hoist the Lombardi that he was one of the Bird gangers hoisting it.

When you were giving us your reports from camp I was one of the ones writing in to thank you. Your posts were great and it was like you were the eyes for all of us who weren't there. I hope you do so again next year. I think I even mentioned you as ASFN MVP. That's the way I felt.

I never ever intended to insult you or disrespect you. I hope you can recognize that.

 

[cardncubfan]

Bert---please read my post again. I wasn't dissing you at all, I even said you were making a good point that you had witnessed directly. And all I said is it's mystifying to me (in light of how inaccurate he was at some practices) how accurate he was the last two games.

That wasn't meant as a knock to you, nor was I trying to flex my ego. In fact, I have been swallowing hefty slices of humble pie for standing by my feeling that the Cardinals gave up too soon on Thomas---it's certainly not the popular opinion, is it?

Honestly, I don't have to be right. I am expressing my opinions---and they are not always right, nor would I pretend that they are. I get attached to some of these players and get hopeful.

I felt really bad when they let Dockett go ahead and sign with the 49ers. I was bummed and not only expressed it here but called MJ's show twice to express my disappointment. Was I right? Doesn't look like to now, does it? But I still miss Dock and was hoping if the Cardinals ever hoist the Lombardi that he was one of the Bird gangers hoisting it.

When you were giving us your reports from camp I was one of the ones writing in to thank you. Your posts were great and it was like you were the eyes for all of us who weren't there. I hope you do so again next year. I think I even mentioned you as ASFN MVP. That's the way I felt.

I never ever intended to insult you or disrespect you. I hope you can recognize that.

I always enjoy your posts Mitch whether I agree with them or not. They are always well thought out & maybe too much at times. I think maybe Bert was just having a bad day or took things the wrong way. I didn't take your post as disagreeing with Bert but as you said you didn't see why he was accurate in games but not practice.

 

[Mitch]

I always enjoy your posts Mitch whether I agree with them or not. They are always well thought out & maybe too much at times. I think maybe Bert was just having a bad day or took things the wrong way. I didn't take your post as disagreeing with Bert but as you said you didn't see why he was accurate in games but not practice.

Thank you, cncf---that was exactly what I was trying to say. I am surprised Bert reacted the way he did. To my knowledge, we have always been respectful of one another.

 

[Jetstream Green]

You will then love this, especially the VA Tech guy going he sucks again and again lol
http://www.finheaven.com/showthread.php?368474-Logan-Thomas-Pick-Up

 

[juza76]

a thread for logan thomas

 

[Russ Smith]

I have to believe this reaction is tied to how desperate we are to having a "Future QB" that we are clinging to any tiny bit of hope that we have one on the roster.

We didn't and we still don't (With Barkley)

Probably true. When you don't think you have something, you keep looking.

 

[Russ Smith]

Who knows anything can happen but Thomas was hand picked by Arians, same school, big armed guy that Arians loves. And after 1 year, Arians gave up on him for Matt Barkley, one has to wonder for a guy with such a great reputation for working with QB's isn't the most plausible reason that Thomas just isn't that good?

I go back to the local rumors(bay area) prior to the draft when there was some talk the Raiders might be looking at Thomas. It was mentioned that former SJSU QB Steve Clarkson, now a famous QB guru, had been approached by Thomas in college to work with him. Clarkson put him through a workout and then politely said it wouldn't be fair of me to take your money, you are NOT a QB. You should strongly consider moving back to TE or another position, you're an NFL athlete, but you're not a QB.

Thomas then hired a different QB coach. Not saying Clarkson can't be wrong but he's sort of to the QB coaching gurus what Arians is the NFL QB coaching gurus, considered to at the top if not alone. That 2 guys with the rep of Clarkson and Arians have both "given up" on him sort of implies there's probably a very good reason.

 

[Vermont Maverick]

Did any of these people who are freaking out go to a day of camp? Listen we're all glad that LT had some shining moments against non-NFL players in the 4th quarter of some presason games, good for him, but he was consistently bad in practice. He airmailed more passes than anyone else, and I am not exagurrating, go back and look at any of the camp reports, Logan Thomas threw ATLEAST 2 interceptions at every single camp day I attended. And that continued throughout camp. He never improved! He just kept throwing picks.

This is the most outrage EVER over a guy who for two consecutive years has failed to win the QB3 position. Lets put it this way, Logan Thomas failed to impress the coaches so badly, that he couldn't even beat out the POSSIBILITY that MATT BARKLEY MIGHT be good with some coaching from Tom Moore.

Also this is not just BA's input being put in here. Do people forget that we have Tom Moore on our staff who is widely regarded as the best QB coach in the NFL? If he and BA dont think LT has what it takes, I believe them, because they know more about football and THIS TEAM than you do.

Also, go through the list of last years 4th round picks for all NFL teams. About half of them are either with new teams or aren't even in the league. So please spare me the outcry about how terrible BASK is for wasting this super valuable pick that should be a superstar player. Yea it sucks that our 4th rounder didn't work out, and I know you guys like to feed your negativity monkey's anything that will make a turd, but give me a break.

Bert is my new favorite poster. You da man, Bert!

 

[Jetstream Green]

Who knows anything can happen but Thomas was hand picked by Arians, same school, big armed guy that Arians loves. And after 1 year, Arians gave up on him for Matt Barkley, one has to wonder for a guy with such a great reputation for working with QB's isn't the most plausible reason that Thomas just isn't that good?

I go back to the local rumors(bay area) prior to the draft when there was some talk the Raiders might be looking at Thomas. It was mentioned that former SJSU QB Steve Clarkson, now a famous QB guru, had been approached by Thomas in college to work with him. Clarkson put him through a workout and then politely said it wouldn't be fair of me to take your money, you are NOT a QB. You should strongly consider moving back to TE or another position, you're an NFL athlete, but you're not a QB.

Thomas then hired a different QB coach. Not saying Clarkson can't be wrong but he's sort of to the QB coaching gurus what Arians is the NFL QB coaching gurus, considered to at the top if not alone. That 2 guys with the rep of Clarkson and Arians have both "given up" on him sort of implies there's probably a very good reason.

One thing which Arians also looks for is intelligence and that is one thing which Barkley, Stanton and Palmer do have which Thomas seemingly did not have. That is hard to gauge without putting a QB into a system and the allure of his athletic ability prompting Arians and Keim to take a chance... sounds cruel on my behalf, but Logan was cut because he was probably football stupid for the position of being a NFL QB

 

[Vermont Maverick]

Bucannon is playing LB, which is why Jefferson is starting at SS. HJQ would have been the #5 safety, and Honey Badger can also play CB. Keeping HJQ was very doable. Plus, we need depth at safety because Bettcher is planning on playing 4 safety packages.

Bucannon WAS playing LB with Spoon out. Now that Spoon is back, Bucannon is now the backup LB and starting SS. That's where each of the started the Denver game, to get some work at those spots.

I liked Jones-Q but I agree with all of our moves, though I'm not a big Brittan Golden fan. Some tough decisions. I will miss Shaughennesy, too, but that's the way it goes. I wanted to hold on to J Shipley, but we got him through to practice squad. BASK should be commended for understanding that a lot of the cut players would go unclaimed, and we got them back.

 

[Shaggy]

I still hope to see Shipley on the roster sometime soon. Can a player move to 53 roster player move to PS and then a PS player move up during the season if that PS player is out playing a roster player on practice, or does a roster player have to go on IR for a PS player to move up?

 

[b8rtm8nn]

I still hope to see Shipley on the roster sometime soon. Can a player move to 53 roster player move to PS and then a PS player move up during the season if that PS player is out playing a roster player on practice, or does a roster player have to go on IR for a PS player to move up?

Yes - you can move a player up at any time, another player from the active roster has to be cut from the active roster in some form or fashion. If the active player is just released and are not a vested vet (?), they go through the waiver process, if they are a vet, they are a free agent. I'm sure someone else can explain this better than me

Both Kerwynn and Golden followed this route up to the active roster.

 

[GatorAZ]

Glad Shipley made the PS. He's a keeper.

 

[kerouac9]

Bucannon WAS playing LB with Spoon out. Now that Spoon is back, Bucannon is now the backup LB and starting SS. That's where each of the started the Denver game, to get some work at those spots.

I liked Jones-Q but I agree with all of our moves, though I'm not a big Brittan Golden fan. Some tough decisions. I will miss Shaughennesy, too, but that's the way it goes. I wanted to hold on to J Shipley, but we got him through to practice squad. BASK should be commended for understanding that a lot of the cut players would go unclaimed, and we got them back.

Bucannon is still going to play a ton of ILB this year. Probably still his primary position. He's the guy who is going to take snaps away from Minter this year.