Look at this list of QBs. Then tell me...

[kerouac9]

It kills me that many posters said their were better options then Lindley and really only K9 listed an option, the decaying corpse that is mr slow wind up and release Byron Leftwhich.

Despite all that, I think that Leftwich is a better option than Lindley.

Tebow HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

In a league that is STARVED for starting QB's he can't make a practice squad.

I want to expand on this--Tebow can make far more money on ESPN and public speaking than he can as a practice squad QB making $50K a season or whatever. As an active roster player or a #2, the potential for success is higher. Tebow makes $1M an appearance on the speaking tour--no joke.

Wasn't it Grossman who said no the to Browns when Manzel hurt his hammy at the end of this season?

Maybe we could bash BA on having an offense so complex that it takes close to a year for all the players to get on the same page for basically average results.

I considered this comment, then looked it up and saw that Arians's system had pretty remarkable success with Roethlisberger. I think that Palmer could be pretty explosive next year if (1) he's healthy and (2) if Arians can align our personnel to more closely match his system--and that means less or no Fitz.

Raise your hand if you think the Cards were going to advance in the playoffs even with Stanton back..........he may have been enough to get past the Panthers but the roll would have stopped after that.

This is just a false equivalence. It doesn't have to be Stanton back, it just has to be a replacement-level quarterback that deserves a job in the NFL. A guy who just doesn't take stuff off the table like Lindley does. Someone who isn't historically awful.

Didn't Lindley put up some pretty good numbers against the 9ers?

This season was such a kick in the junk at the end because everything was lining up for a very special season but once Palmer went down for the rest of the year it was doomed.

To be fair, San Francisco was playing with essentially no one in their secondary and a pretty banged up linebacking corps. And we still lost.

 

[Cardiac]

Despite all that, I think that Leftwich is a better option than Lindley.

Agree to disagree.

I want to expand on this--Tebow can make far more money on ESPN and public speaking than he can as a practice squad QB making $50K a season or whatever. As an active roster player or a #2, the potential for success is higher. Tebow makes $1M an appearance on the speaking tour--no joke.

It's my belief that if given the chance Tebow would take the PS position to try and achieve is true dream which it being an NFL QB. Even it that's not the case then he would have turned us down just a Grossman would have.

I considered this comment, then looked it up and saw that Arians's system had pretty remarkable success with Roethlisberger. I think that Palmer could be pretty explosive next year if (1) he's healthy and (2) if Arians can align our personnel to more closely match his system--and that means less or no Fitz.

I agree with this sans the Fitz qualifier. I don't think he hurts the O's production which is what I take away for your comment.

This is just a false equivalence. It doesn't have to be Stanton back, it just has to be a replacement-level quarterback that deserves a job in the NFL. A guy who just doesn't take stuff off the table like Lindley does. Someone who isn't historically awful.

Fair enough, we weren't winning the SB with Stanton or Leftwhich or Tebow or anyone not name Palmer. Now if the team hadn't suffered the losses of DD and Juke and Dwashout and HB's 2nd injury then maybe a QB that you or Mooooodooo22(sp?) would have found on the QB tree in November would have allowed us to get to the SB.

To be fair, San Francisco was playing with essentially no one in their secondary and a pretty banged up linebacking corps. And we still lost.

But was it Lindley that cost us the game? I say that he wasn't the main reason we lost. All a moot point because once Palmer went down we weren't going anywhere in the playoffs anyway, which is my essential point.

 

[kerouac9]

But was it Lindley that cost us the game? I say that he wasn't the main reason we lost. All a moot point because once Palmer went down we weren't going anywhere in the playoffs anyway, which is my essential point.

Well, Lindley completed four passes in the entire 4th quarter, including 1 of 8 to end the game including an interception.

So I don't know if it was 100% that Lindley cost us the game, but it wasn't 0%, either.

 

[Cardiac]

Well, Lindley completed four passes in the entire 4th quarter, including 1 of 8 to end the game including an interception.

So I don't know if it was 100% that Lindley cost us the game, but it wasn't 0%, either.

Won't disagree.

If it helps I will concede that BASK may have been able to find a better QB option than Lindley when Palmer went down for the year. Not sure that what was available would have gotten us past the Panthers but I highly doubt they would have won in the next round of the playoffs.

 

[kerouac9]

Won't disagree.

If it helps I will concede that BASK may have been able to find a better QB option than Lindley when Palmer went down for the year. Not sure that what was available would have gotten us past the Panthers but I highly doubt they would have won in the next round of the playoffs.

The better argument was whether there was a quarterback available that would've given us a chance to beat Seattle at home. I mean, Ryan Lindley gave this team absolutely no hope--like, no hope at all. Whatever the opposite of hope is...

...what is it...

Oh, despair. Ryan Lindley ladled up a huge helping of despair in that Seahawks game.

I firmly believe that there was a quarterback option that would've taken us past the Seahawks in the Week 15 game. Then we would've had home-field throughout the playoffs, and we have a legit chance of running defense and a running game as far as it can go in the most electric home atmosphere in NFL history.

 

[bankybruce]

The good news in all this is that Lindley was able to pay off his van with his game checks. Here is a picture of it after he cleaned out his locker.

 

[Cardiac]

The better argument was whether there was a quarterback available that would've given us a chance to beat Seattle at home. I mean, Ryan Lindley gave this team absolutely no hope--like, no hope at all. Whatever the opposite of hope is...

...what is it...

Oh, despair. Ryan Lindley ladled up a huge helping of despair in that Seahawks game.

I firmly believe that there was a quarterback option that would've taken us past the Seahawks in the Week 15 game. Then we would've had home-field throughout the playoffs, and we have a legit chance of running defense and a running game as far as it can go in the most electric home atmosphere in NFL history.

I thought of this but is Batch or Leftwhich an answer to who can beat the Seahawks?

In a QB Starved league it is unfair to expect any team to win a game in the playoffs with their 3rd/4th string QB.

 

[kerouac9]

I thought of this but is Batch or Leftwhich an answer to who can beat the Seahawks?

In a QB Starved league it is unfair to expect any team to win a game in the playoffs with their 3rd/4th string QB.

To "expect"? I think you're right. But to give you a chance? I don't think that's impossible. T.J. Yates was able to do it.

Do I think that Leftwich could've beaten the Seahawks that game? Yeah. I think he could have. It's difficult to really describe appropriately how terrible Ryan Lindley played in that game. It's like describing the Mona Lisa. You can put the facts out there, but you really have to watch snap after dispiriting snap to show how terrible the offense was.

 

[Cardiac]

To "expect"? I think you're right. But to give you a chance? I don't think that's impossible. T.J. Yates was able to do it.

Do I think that Leftwich could've beaten the Seahawks that game? Yeah. I think he could have. It's difficult to really describe appropriately how terrible Ryan Lindley played in that game. It's like describing the Mona Lisa. You can put the facts out there, but you really have to watch snap after dispiriting snap to show how terrible the offense was.

It was horrible to watch but the Seahawks D has a way of doing that to teams and QB's.

I was holding out hope for home field advantage throughout the playoffs because it truly was our only shot of getting to the SB. I thought Stanton would have given us that shot but .......... Man the way this season ended was a kick to the nuts.

 

[Jetstream Green]

To "expect"? I think you're right. But to give you a chance? I don't think that's impossible. T.J. Yates was able to do it.

Do I think that Leftwich could've beaten the Seahawks that game? Yeah. I think he could have. It's difficult to really describe appropriately how terrible Ryan Lindley played in that game. It's like describing the Mona Lisa. You can put the facts out there, but you really have to watch snap after dispiriting snap to show how terrible the offense was.

Actually, I can give a pretty good description of the Mona Lisa... Lindley was more like describing a Jackson Pollock lol

 

[football karma]

the only problem i have with Batch and Leftwich speculation is that neither had played football for two years at that point.

It would seem more credible if maybe they had been in a camp in the fall -- but nearly 24 months with no football at all ---

It just seems like that is a pretty steep hill to climb --

 

[Cardiac]

the only problem i have with Batch and Leftwich speculation is that neither had played football for two years at that point.

It would seem more credible if maybe they had been in a camp in the fall -- but nearly 24 months with no football at all ---

It just seems like that is a pretty steep hill to climb --

Good point and then of course there is Ed's list in the OP so I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a credible upgrade over Lindley.