Lue believes he will sign with Suns

[Irish]

I responded to the question of when did the Suns have adequate backup at PG. I have no idea how 43 turned this into a comparison with the current group. It is just bizarre.

 

[Mainstreet]

1997-98: Jason Kidd, Kevin Johnson, and Steve Nash.

Looking back into history, this still amazes me the Suns had three (or soon to be) All-star PGs on their roster back then. I imagine Jason Kidd was starting, Steve Nash was probably getting some minimal playing time off the bench, but I just can't remember KJ backing up Kidd. I guess he did, but this seems surreal to me.

I do remember KJ came out of retirement in the year 2000 when Jason Kidd broke his ankle when the Suns were heading into the playoffs. This made me respect KJ all the more because he did it for the team.

 

[JS22]

Why is it that every time I see "Livingston" I seriously think it's Randy Livingston? Perhaps I'm still traumatized.

You and me both, my friend.

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[scXfreakX]

Nowhere above do I compare Kevin Johnson to Goran Dragic. Read carefully.

What I mean to do - and perhaps it is explained poorly - is the pecking order of the point guards from 1998 and 2008.

1998 vs. 2008:
younger Kidd is to Nash (starters)
veteran Kevin is to Lue (backups)
rookie Nash is to Dragic (developers)


Does this make better sense? Are u relieved now that you found Kevin Johnson is not being compared to Lue and Dragic? From your post, it appeared you were offended or something.

Lue is younger than Nash, so that doesn't really work. But I understand what you're getting at.

 

[mojorizen7]

I know that the SUNS have been rolling out elite PG's forever.....
as opposed to elite big men or wings.

 

[Mainstreet]

I know that the SUNS have been rolling out elite PG's forever.....
as opposed to elite big men or wings.

I'll take what I can get. All-Star quality PGs are very difficult to find, just like quality big men.

I don't consider the Suns as rolling dice on their PGs at least while the C's were here. KJ was acquired by trade, so was Kidd and Cassell. The Suns can lay claim to drafting Nash, although he was moved in a trade for Kidd. Really all the player movement at the PG position still left the Suns stacked with star quality PGs. Even when they moved Marbury it helped them reacquire Nash.

What category do you put Stoudemire? He wasn't mentioned as an elite
big man. Also Joe Johnson wasn't half bad as a wing.

 

[green machine]

I'll take what I can get. All-Star quality PGs are very difficult to find, just like quality big men.

I don't consider the Suns as rolling dice on their PGs at least while the C's were here. KJ was acquired by trade, so was Kidd and Cassell. The Suns can lay claim to drafting Nash, although he was moved in a trade for Kidd. Really all the player movement at the PG position still left the Suns stacked with star quality PGs. Even when they moved Marbury it helped them reacquire Nash.

What category do you put Stoudemire? He wasn't mentioned as an elite
big man. Also Joe Johnson wasn't half bad as a wing.

Actually, Nash was moved for the draft pick that became Shawn Marion. He wasn't involved in the Kidd trade.

FYI.

 

[carey]

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/basketball/heat/sfl-lue0713,0,5021192.story

Tyronn Lue considering signing with Miami Heat

By Ira Winderman | Sun-Sentinel.com
8:34 PM EDT, July 13, 2008

MIAMI - Veteran NBA point guard Tyronn Lue said today he is scheduled to take a physical with the Miami Heat on Monday morning and could sign with the team shortly thereafter.

The Heat, however, later said an offer would not be extended Monday.

In South Florida for Zo's Summer Groove, Lue said before the charity game that he has narrowed his free-agent choices to the Heat, Boston Celtics and Phoenix Suns.

Lue said the decision would be difficult because of his friendship with Boston's Kevin Garnett and Phoenix's Shaquille O'Neal, his former Los Angeles Lakers championship teammate.

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However, Lue also gushed about the possibility of playing alongside Dwyane Wade and Shawn Marion.

"It's a good spot here," the 31-year-old 3-point shooter said. "This definitely would be a good situation."

The Heat has only a $1.9 million mid-level salary-cap exception remaining to offer in free agency, with Lue saying he would have no trouble with a contract starting at that figure for 2008-09.

The question, however, becomes how much of that the Heat would be willing to offer, if it is willing to offer any of it.

The 6-foot guard split last season between the Hawks, Kings and Mavericks, although a calf injury kept him from suiting up for Sacramento. The 10-year veteran has also played for the Wizards. Magic and Rockets.

An addition of Lue would leave the Heat with Lue, second-round draft pick Mario Chalmers and veteran Marcus Banks at point guard. Incumbent backup Chris Quinn is a restricted free agent, with a qualifying offer in place from the Heat.

Since starting 46 of 49 appearances for the Hawks in 2004-05, Lue has played 127 of his last 157 games as a reserve.
FYI.

Hmm?

 

[scXfreakX]

Meh. Jklyihidmfjf mutherfu76*&^. Thats exactly how I feel.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Shortly after signing with the Miami Heat, Steve Kerr issued a statement that the Suns weren't never interested in Lue.

"The cost to production ratio wasn't to our liking," Kerr quipped. "However, we did sign a new PG prospect from Australia named Sean Marks. I have seen him play and he is really going to suprise some people."

 

[Mainstreet]

Actually, Nash was moved for the draft pick that became Shawn Marion. He wasn't involved in the Kidd trade.

FYI.

Thanks for the correction. I had to look it up. The Suns traded Nash to the Mavericks in exchange for Martin Muursepp, Bubba Wells, the draft rights to Pat Garrity and a first-round draft pick. Now that would have been a very bad trade if Marion had not turned out to be a solid player.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns need to quit chasing after players that rejected them last season like Barry and Lue.

 

[Irish]

It was pretty obvious that Lue was hoping to get the LLE and the Suns weren't going to bite. The Heat were expected to use some of their MLE on Dooling and when they didn't, they had to go for a lower priced player. I was hoping it would go otherwise, but it was certainly a risk.

At this point I would like to find out more about the Dragic situation. If the Sun had been able to get Lue for the Vet Min, I suspect they would not have been willing to pay the #500,000 fee plus to get Dragic as one of four PG's. But with Lue out of the running, Kerr may change his mind assuming the weird legal situation can be resolved.

 

[Folster]

It was pretty obvious that Lue was hoping to get the LLE and the Suns weren't going to bite. The Heat were expected to use some of their MLE on Dooling and when they didn't, they had to go for a lower priced player. I was hoping it would go otherwise, but it was certainly a risk.

At this point I would like to find out more about the Dragic situation. If the Sun had been able to get Lue for the Vet Min, I suspect they would not have been willing to pay the #500,000 fee plus to get Dragic as one of four PG's. But with Lue out of the running, Kerr may change his mind assuming the weird legal situation can be resolved.

I don't believe the Suns have the LLE to offer. Didn't Grant Hill get the biannual LLE exception last year?

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

correct

 

[nowagimp]

The suns just cant seem to land a backup PG, its like water and oil mixing. I guess Tyron looks at the heat and sees a long term position at the point with a new contract after this year. Is is possible that the Dragic pick made lue go somewhere else?

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

he hasnt decided yet to my knowledge, where are you getting your conclusions from?

 

[scXfreakX]

he hasnt decided yet to my knowledge, where are you getting your conclusions from?

I think people are confusing rumors with fact. To my knowledge, he hasn't been signed yet.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Yeah people, Chris Sanders was being funny.

Sort of what I pulled a few weeks ago when I "quoted" amare saying he was going to focus on his 3 ball instead of defense this summer and a whole new thread was started. (they got suns'd)

 

[KloD]

http://www.miamiherald.com/592/story/604637.html

Lue misses physical; Heat to look elsewhere

A day after saying he expected an offer from the Heat pending a physical, free agent Tyronn Lue decided against going through with that physical exam Monday, and the Heat now is looking elsewhere in its search for another point guard.

That search could take some time, though, Heat general manager Randy Pfund indicated Monday.

''We're kind of in a wait mode,'' he said. ``We'll watch what happens here for a little while. There's a lot out there that isn't totally in line with what we're thinking.''

Lue, bothered by a calf injury last season, said Sunday he would take a physical at 5 a.m. Monday, but he never showed up. He indicated he also was considering Boston and Phoenix. Pfund acknowledged there was interest, but the Heat never made an offer.

The Heat could sign a point guard with its $1.9 million bi-annual exception or trade for one to complement rookie Mario Chalmers and veteran Marcus Banks. Restricted free agent Chris Quinn, who has a qualifying offer from the Heat, continues to speak with other teams.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Thanks for the correction. I had to look it up. The Suns traded Nash to the Mavericks in exchange for Martin Muursepp, Bubba Wells, the draft rights to Pat Garrity and a first-round draft pick. Now that would have been a very bad trade if Marion had not turned out to be a solid player.

Didn't they also unload AC Green's contract in that trade?

 

[scXfreakX]

I guess thats good news. Hopefully Lue and the Suns can get something done.

 

[JCSunsfan]

The suns just cant seem to land a backup PG, its like water and oil mixing. I guess Tyron looks at the heat and sees a long term position at the point with a new contract after this year. Is is possible that the Dragic pick made lue go somewhere else?

Is it possible that they know they cannot look good playing behind Nash?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Yeah people, Chris Sanders was being funny.

Sort of what I pulled a few weeks ago when I "quoted" amare saying he was going to focus on his 3 ball instead of defense this summer and a whole new thread was started. (they got suns'd)

I tried and failed. Give me one of your big fail pictures I even stuck in a Sean Marks reference. **kicks a can**

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

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