Marshall sent to D-League

[KloD]

AUBURN HILLS, Mich. – This was not how Kendall Marshall thought it would go when he wrote an e-mail to Suns management before the NBA draft to express how much he wanted to be part of the organization.
When Marshall was selected, he was holding onto the slim chance that he might get to learn behind Steve Nash but figured he would get a great opportunity to play if Nash left. The Suns signed Goran Dragic in free agency, Sebastian Telfair held onto the backup job and Marshall is bound for the D-League after a month of the season.

As practice time dwindled, Marhsall’s only time to improve was through player development coordinator Lindsey Hunter’s workouts, half-court games with seldom-used or unused players and by watching games. It was a perspective he never has endured and it was visibly hard, especially when it seemed like he felt like he could be helping in a backup role early in the season.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/174149

Also sent to the D-League today, Jeremy Lamb. I desperately want the Suns to trade Gortat. That said, maybe... just maybe, the two teams are sending these two down for each team to scout their progress? please. I would love it if the Suns could get that Toronto pick. I don't honestly think there is anything to this, but like with the lottery... one can hope.

 

[TruCard]

We should of never drafted Marshall. Another mistake by Sarver.

 

[Mainstreet]

It makes me think the Suns want to take a better look at Garrett at PG. In an article at azcentral.com written by Paul Coro dated 11-29-12, it might also indicate the Suns are willing to trade Telfair. This is not the first time I have heard that rumor. It would be nicer if the Suns could trade Marshall but I doubt there is interest.

The Suns entered the season saying they would bring Marshall along slowly. If the Suns wind up out of the playoff race, they could look to move Telfair to a playoff team in need to get Marshall or fellow rookie point guard Diante Garrett more time. Garrett is remaining with the Suns and will now get to be on the active roster regularly.

It looks like early the Suns made a mistake in drafting Marshall. Thanks Lance Blanks.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/sun...all-marshall-nba-d-league.html?nclick_check=1

 

[95pro]

Why give up telfair to develop marshall. Marshall is so bad right now, why even make that gamble. It'll just make our FO look even more incompetent. Least that brings us closes to lottery land.

 

[Chaplin]

We should of never drafted Marshall. Another mistake by Sarver.

Sarver didn't draft Marshall. Blanks and Babby did.

 

[devilalum]

Has anybody ever been sent to the D league and actually become a good player?

 

[KloD]

Why keep Telfair? This team sucks! IMO get rid of anyone not under 25 (exception being Dragic) and get assets and draft picks. Get rid of Scola this summer for the same. If the Suns aren't looking for a trade for Gortat right now, they are fools. There is no point in keeping these guys around.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Why keep Telfair? This team sucks! IMO get rid of anyone not under 25 (exception being Dragic) and get assets and draft picks. Get rid of Scola this summer for the same. If the Suns aren't looking for a trade for Gortat right now, they are fools. There is no point in keeping these guys around.

How do you expect any of them to retain their trade value as you strip the team of all playing strength? Also, in doing it your way, you effectively rule out the possibility of building through a combination of free agency and the draft because no FA in his right mind is going to play for similar money with a dead-end franchise. Building solely through the draft rarely succeeds. Not to mention stripping this team down to a talentless bunch is going to turn mediocre attendance numbers into horrific attendance numbers which isn't going to play with the money people. I'd love to see them trade for future assets but that's a process that needs to play out over a couple of seasons

Steve

 

[BC867]

How do you expect any of them to retain their trade value as you strip the team of all playing strength? Also, in doing it your way, you effectively rule out the possibility of building through a combination of free agency and the draft because no FA in his right mind is going to play for similar money with a dead-end franchise. Building solely through the draft rarely succeeds. Not to mention stripping this team down to a talentless bunch is going to turn mediocre attendance numbers into horrific attendance numbers which isn't going to play with the money people. I'd love to see them trade for future assets but that's a process that needs to play out over a couple of seasons

Steve

For decades I have been hoping that the Suns would rise above 50-and-fade. Now I am hoping they get back to it.

Until they make major changes at the top of the organization, the Suns will never be a championship contender.

Win at home, don't embarrass yourself on the road and make an appearance in the playoffs is the best they've done in 44 seasons. And a hell of a lot better than now.

And, as Steve inferred, that would be the way to win back the fans and attract players who could take us to the next level.

That being said, it is not going to happen to with Sarver at the top. It is a damn sad thought that we would have to decimate any bit of talent we have to motivate Sarver to leave so we could start at absolute rock bottom.

 

[Mainstreet]

For decades I have been hoping that the Suns would rise above 50-and-fade. Now I am hoping they get back to it.

Until they make major changes at the top of the organization, the Suns will never be a championship contender.

Win at home, don't embarrass yourself on the road and make an appearance in the playoffs is the best they've done in 44 seasons. And a hell of a lot better than now.

And, as Steve inferred, that would be the way to win back the fans and attract players who could take us to the next level.

That being said, it is not going to happen to with Sarver at the top. It is a damn sad thought that we would have to decimate any bit of talent we have to motivate Sarver to leave so we could start at absolute rock bottom.

Hire DA back when he gets fired in LA. It sounds like DA has regrets leaving the Suns, so may the Suns FO and fans looking backwards.

 

[elindholm]

Jeez, some of you sound like you thought rebuilding was going to be easy. The Suns have almost no assets. It's going to take a long time to dig out of this hole, no matter who the owner is, no matter who the GM is, no matter who the coach is. Everyone was clamoring for rebuilding and now some of you can't stomach it after less than 20 games.

 

[KloD]

How do you expect any of them to retain their trade value as you strip the team of all playing strength? Also, in doing it your way, you effectively rule out the possibility of building through a combination of free agency and the draft because no FA in his right mind is going to play for similar money with a dead-end franchise. Building solely through the draft rarely succeeds. Not to mention stripping this team down to a talentless bunch is going to turn mediocre attendance numbers into horrific attendance numbers which isn't going to play with the money people. I'd love to see them trade for future assets but that's a process that needs to play out over a couple of seasons

Steve

I don't recall saying anything about how to build and I don't agree that no free agent will come. We're talking about Scola, Gortat, Dudley, Brown, and Telfair. None who will be with the team when they may be potentially good again. All I'm saying is that trade off these guys this year while they may be worth something. The team is not a free agent or two away from being good. They just aren't. There aren't any free agents available in the next year or two that added to this bunch will turn this team around. The big names are where they will most likely stay. In order to trade you need assets and right now the Suns IMO should be selling what they got to add to their bank so when someone worthy becomes available, they have the capital to win the bid. I want the Toronto pick as with other lottery picks because the lottery is a bit of a crap shoot and so the more lottery picks you have, the better your chances at getting a top 3 where the chances of getting a stud is a bit more likely.

Point is, I don't think free agency has anything to offer as far as someone to build around in the next year or two, so there is no need to worry about frightening anyone away. Maybe though if they got a franchise guy through a trade or the draft, then in a couple of years when free agency has a few great players, the Suns can get a player or two that will make the Suns a contender. Scola, Gortat, Dudley, Brown, and Telfair will have finished out their contracts and likely moved on. So again, why not trade them now and get the most they will ever be worth to the Suns. It's a gamble sure, but so is keeping a team together that's playing sub .500 ball and hoping it's enough to attract a franchise free agent.

 

[sunsfan88]

I think the funniest thing I have ever read is probably in that article

Marshall, who many thought to be the best shooter in this year's class, now has a chance to work on the rest of his game with the Jam.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/pho...dall_marshall_bakersfield_jam_2012_11_29.html

Best shooter in this year's draft class? HAHA I would love to know who thought that.

 

[Griffin]

Has anybody ever been sent to the D league and actually become a good player?

Well, high draft picks generally don't get sent down. I don't think there's ever been an NBA all-star with prior D-league experience, but the league is only 10 years old.

From wiki, notable NBA players who were sent down to D-League early in their careers (up to 2009):

José Juan Barea, Brandon Bass, Andray Blatche, Aaron Brooks, Jordan Farmar, Shannon Brown, Marcin Gortat, Ramon Sessions, Jeremy Lin, and Martell Webster

 

[JCSunsfan]

This team does not suck. 3-12 it is as good as any team in the league. It is in desperate need of a #1 and a #2 type player.

Telfair is a fantastic backup pg. That position is set well.

Marshall is a bust. No doubt, and there is no place to develop him on this team. Learn, move on. Trade, whatever.

 

[TJ]

Marshall doesn't get any playing time. He's stuck on the bench because we signed Dragic and Telfair has decided to finally become an bonafide NBA basketball player. I think anyone calling the kid a "bust" after 16 games is too impatient.

I don't necessarily see it as a demotion but rather an opportunity to get the rust off with consistent playing time.

 

[Errntknght]

Thanks for saving me the trouble of typing that, TJ. I'm not particularly keen on Marshall but writing him off at this point is foolish.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I don't recall saying anything about how to build and I don't agree that no free agent will come. We're talking about Scola, Gortat, Dudley, Brown, and Telfair. None who will be with the team when they may be potentially good again. All I'm saying is that trade off these guys this year while they may be worth something. The team is not a free agent or two away from being good. They just aren't. There aren't any free agents available in the next year or two that added to this bunch will turn this team around. The big names are where they will most likely stay. In order to trade you need assets and right now the Suns IMO should be selling what they got to add to their bank so when someone worthy becomes available, they have the capital to win the bid. I want the Toronto pick as with other lottery picks because the lottery is a bit of a crap shoot and so the more lottery picks you have, the better your chances at getting a top 3 where the chances of getting a stud is a bit more likely.

Point is, I don't think free agency has anything to offer as far as someone to build around in the next year or two, so there is no need to worry about frightening anyone away. Maybe though if they got a franchise guy through a trade or the draft, then in a couple of years when free agency has a few great players, the Suns can get a player or two that will make the Suns a contender. Scola, Gortat, Dudley, Brown, and Telfair will have finished out their contracts and likely moved on. So again, why not trade them now and get the most they will ever be worth to the Suns. It's a gamble sure, but so is keeping a team together that's playing sub .500 ball and hoping it's enough to attract a franchise free agent.

You still have to pay people (I think it's 90% of the Salary Cap), you can't just strip your team down to Dragic and a bunch of D leaguers. You can't trade Scola until after this season and neither Dudley nor Brown are likely to bring you anything of real value - maybe a 2nd round pick each and you can buy them for half a million per when the time comes if you really need one. Telfair might have 1st round value if another contending team finds itself in dire need for a PG but not until then IMO.

Gortat is so up and down right now I have no idea what his value would be. Again, my point is that this is a process, you can't simply just decide to trade all your talent and then go out and do it. I don't even think the league would allow it and you can bet your shareholders aren't going to be happy. It's just not feasible to do it that way. It has to occur over a period of time and you need to be bringing back legitimate talent when you do it, not just draft picks.

Steve

 

[Superbone]

This team does not suck. 3-12 it is as good as any team in the league. It is in desperate need of a #1 and a #2 type player.

Telfair is a fantastic backup pg. That position is set well.

Marshall is a bust. No doubt, and there is no place to develop him on this team. Learn, move on. Trade, whatever.

Waaaaay too early to be calling Marshall a bust.

 

[TruCard]

Sarver didn't draft Marshall. Blanks and Babby did.

Do you have proof of this? I figure that Sarver DOES own the team. Do you not think he has a say?

 

[SirStefan32]

Do you have proof of this? I figure that Sarver DOES own the team. Do you not think he has a say?

It's difficult to prove a negative. I can say that it is obvious that Sarver has learned from some of his earlier mistakes, and it looks like he has taken a step back from micromanaging everything.

 

[Chaplin]

It's difficult to prove a negative. I can say that it is obvious that Sarver has learned from some of his earlier mistakes, and it looks like he has taken a step back from micromanaging everything.

Exactly. As much as people would like to believe that Babby is a stooge puppet with strings being pulled by the evil despot Sarver, nothing that has happened thus far has given any indication that it is true.

 

[sunsfan88]

Interesting....the league team he's sent down to is in my hometown....and the Jam center is like 10 mins away from my place.....

If he didn't suck, I would definitely go and get an autograph.

 

[Mainstreet]

Interesting....the league team he's sent down to is in my hometown....and the Jam center is like 10 mins away from my place.....

If he didn't suck, I would definitely go and get an autograph.

He has a better chance of being a star than you have of hitting the lottery.

I'd make the trip if for nothing else, watching potential NBA players develop. If I a had a team close to my home, I'd go. Where else can you get close to players that may be in the NBA? IMO, the heart of professional basketball beats strongest there. I used to attend Suns training camps before they ever went to summer league. It was some of the most enjoyable moments of my life.

 

[95pro]

i'd still get an autograph