Dr. Jones
Has No Time For Love
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Well friends....... It didn't feel better after a night of sleep.
20 what?You want to trade a 20/10 center for a guy who never plays and just had back surgery?
Riiiiiight
20 what?
Ayton is not a 20 point guy. He has never been a 20 point guy?!!?That would be points
That he’s never averaged in any of his four seasons.That would be points
Actually if amare would’ve averaged 19 points Finito would’ve trashed him for that too.That he’s never averaged in any of his four seasons.
See this is why discussing anything Ayton with you is so hard. There are cold hard FACTS that you straight out inflate beyond the subjective claim that Ayton’s elite defensively even though he’s not an elite rebounder, shot blocker and just got Gobert’d in the one series he did almost live up to your mythical 20/10… which was actually 19/9. And I’m pretty sure you regularly TRASH Amare for that level of rebounding.
I was all over people being overcritical with Ayton but I didn't go slinslin. I regularly called out what he wasn't good at and what he struggled at. I don't know about you guys but the overall #1 pick? I want more like 25/12 out of Ayton but that evidently isn't realistic.That he’s never averaged in any of his four seasons.
See this is why discussing anything Ayton with you is so hard. There are cold hard FACTS that you straight out inflate beyond the subjective claim that Ayton’s elite defensively even though he’s not an elite rebounder, shot blocker and just got Gobert’d in the one series he did almost live up to your mythical 20/10… which was actually 19/9. And I’m pretty sure you regularly TRASH Amare for that level of rebounding.
That he’s never averaged in any of his four seasons.
See this is why discussing anything Ayton with you is so hard. There are cold hard FACTS that you straight out inflate beyond the subjective claim that Ayton’s elite defensively even though he’s not an elite rebounder, shot blocker and just got Gobert’d in the one series he did almost live up to your mythical 20/10… which was actually 19/9. And I’m pretty sure you regularly TRASH Amare for that level of rebounding.
That’s the issue… if you pay Ayton to be your anchor, your D is going to be soft. It’s just that simple.
Actually if amare would’ve averaged 19 points Finito would’ve trashed him for that too.
I think he turned a corner yesterday.I'd trade Ayton for a milkshake and a beer at this point. Number 1 pick is soft as hell.. I apologize to all the posters who I called out for their critique of him. Just was hoping he would turn the corner ...he never will
15.7You again?
Is Bam an elite defender?
He got Gobert’ed? Ayton in the Dallas series had games of
25/8
16/11
14/11
20/9
21/11
He was actually our most consistent player but tell me how he was useless and got Gobert’ed. oh that’s right none of the Suns being able to play perimeter defense was Ayton’s fault.
Booker leaving his man in the corner? Ayton’s fault
Paul being abused? Ayton’s fault
You would’ve crucified him for not being who he was, which was a a high volume scorer.Not really. The disconnect here is I accept players for who they are. I accept things in general for what they are.
Just listening to Dallas radio (I know I am gluten for punishment). After Game 5 the Mavs made a huge adjustment. They felt that Booker was nullifying Luka. So, they felt if they could trap Booker every single time, he touched the ball that put all the pressure on the other guys they had a great chance. They didn't seem that worried about Paul, Ayton or our other role players. The felt the one player they had to shut down was Book.
So, take that for what it is. It's the ultimate respect for Book and a great gameplan that worked to a "T". That matches what the sideline reports said they heard the Mavs coaches saying, "anybody but Book". That was the plan and strategy by the Mavs. As a result, we were -19 and -41 respectively with Book on the floor after the adjustment.
You would’ve crucified him for not being who he was, which was a a high volume scorer.
It worked because they ONLY had to stop Booker. Something was up w CP3? It LOOKED like Avocado broke him. Booker needs some help, someone to consistently take the pressure off him. You know someone that doesn't only shoot after the 3rd quarter or in clutch time.Just listening to Dallas radio (I know I am gluten for punishment). After Game 5 the Mavs made a huge adjustment. They felt that Booker was nullifying Luka. So, they felt if they could trap Booker every single time, he touched the ball that put all the pressure on the other guys they had a great chance. They didn't seem that worried about Paul, Ayton or our other role players. The felt the one player they had to shut down was Book.
So, take that for what it is. It's the ultimate respect for Book and a great gameplan that worked to a "T". That matches what the sideline reports said they heard the Mavs coaches saying, "anybody but Book". That was the plan and strategy by the Mavs. As a result, we were -19 and -41 respectively with Book on the floor after the adjustment.
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8.7
Ayton’s averages for the series. But yeah, 20/10 . . .
TBO if i was making a team with guys from that era id grab up Marion before Amare.Not really but ok. I appreciate Amare for what he was, but I don’t pretend he was perfect.
So now the coaching staff is lying about the adjustments for Game 6 and Game 7? My gosh. Occasionally double teaming him and making it a point in Game 6 and 7 is completely different. It came from the coaching staff's mouth but I guess in your mind you know better.If Booker can’t deal with a double team then he has business even being an all star.
You know how you stop that? By recognizing the double is coming and swinging the ball. Something this team was legitimately great at the last two years. Finding the open man and making the shot. To act like Booker just started getting doubled is ridiculous.
You have to make them pay for double teaming. We couldn’t we acted like we forgot how to play basketball, our shooters went ice cold and we were a turnover machine