Mavericks @ Suns Wednesday game thread 10-19-2022

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This spacing is awful. What a terrible play design in the clutch.

Booker draws the double and having two guys in the paint basically lets 2 guys guard 3 since the across the court pass is impossible.

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I guess the player most out of position in regard to spacing was Bridges. I'd expect Ayton to be near the basket.
 

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This spacing is awful. What a terrible play design in the clutch.

Booker draws the double and having two guys in the paint basically lets 2 guys guard 3 since the across the court pass is impossible.

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Yup. I was screaming at the tv at that point. We won but Monty hasn’t figured out Kidd’s defense yet.
 

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I'm sure it's been mentioned already but Wood was unstoppable at the end of the third quarter. DAL got a steal this off season.
 

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I think Wood was just hot that night. I remember when we were rumored to trade or bring him in as a free agent, I watched a few games with him in it, and his team played ours and in all those games he was a non factor. I came away thinking we were lucky not to get him. To me he was hot tonight. I would rather bring in a younger guy if possible.
 

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Yes we will miss Crowder's 5 rebounds per game

Crowder did more for our rebounding than stats indicate. He would box others out, allowing other Suns players to get in position for rebounds. His impact can't be measured statistically.

I'm not a fan of how he's handled things and wish he would be a professional about it but this revisionist history that he didn't contribute anything is going overboard.
 

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In all honesty we should give props to the Suns
Epic collapse by Dallas and that should be the story
 

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Crowder did more for our rebounding than stats indicate. He would box others out, allowing other Suns players to get in position for rebounds. His impact can't be measured statistically.

I'm not a fan of how he's handled things and wish he would be a professional about it but this revisionist history that he didn't contribute anything is going overboard.
Agree we will miss JC, you can already see the hole he left. Cant be mad a Jae for doing what's best for Jae and his family. Just how he did it.
If we could find a player to plug into that 4 spot that could give 10 pts and grab 10 boards per game (behind Cam of course) that would be gravy.
 

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I think Wood was just hot that night. I remember when we were rumored to trade or bring him in as a free agent, I watched a few games with him in it, and his team played ours and in all those games he was a non factor. I came away thinking we were lucky not to get him. To me he was hot tonight. I would rather bring in a younger guy if possible.
The banked in three was an indication of that.
 

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The banked in three was an indication of that.
Yeah, he was hot last night from everywhere but the free throw line.

It's easy to fall in love with Wood's game if you just catch him every now and then but so far, he's worn out his welcome with fans everywhere that he's played. He's like an offensive version of Hassan Whiteside although not quite to that extreme. Still, boneheaded plays, poor shot selection and a reputation as a me-first player have followed him throughout his career.
 

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Woods uses the glass a lot on his shots. He's not Tim Duncan, of course, but I haven't seen anyone use the backboard as often since prime Duncan.
Channing Frye used the backboard a lot in college (very successfully) and then went to the Knicks and I never saw him use it again. I don't know why so many shooters eschew the bank, it's almost free money. It's like all those players that are horrible from the charity stripe yet are unwilling to copy Rick Barry's underhanded free throw form. I guess they're worried about being mocked for it. But again, it's free money.
 

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Woods uses the glass a lot on his shots. He's not Tim Duncan, of course, but I haven't seen anyone use the backboard as often since prime Duncan.
Maybe so but I guarantee you this one wasn’t intentional. He had a sheepish look on his face after he banked it in and he shrugged his shoulders. It was about 6 feet right of center. For the identical shot on the other side of center he swished it.
 

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When I saw the halftime score, I told myself the Suns might be playing mind games with the Mavericks, and intended all along to ambush them in the second half. But I certainly don't know whether it's true. Reminds me a little of the Suns and Bulls' first post-Finals game in 1993, when the Bulls ambushed the Suns with a mind game by having pretended (until shortly before the game) that Scottie Pippen would sit out.

The result was very valuable, because they did it without Chris Paul.

It was an insufficient sample, but that insufficient sample suggests that all who thought Damion Lee would be a bench-riding waste of money will be eating their words, and the Suns knew what they were doing when they signed him. I note that coach not only chose to deploy him over Landry Shamet, but actually ignored Shamet the entire game.
Shamet was injured/unavailable and I believe he's still day to day.
 

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Yeah, I wondered. I hope coach is in no hurry to put him back on the court, though. No reason for that! Lee looked ready to play.
Lee looked horrible for awhile and then he looked great. I don't know a lot about him but that's been my impression of him in the past. Hope we get more of the "great" from him, we certainly haven't had enough of that from Shamet.
 

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I fervently hope Devin Booker keeps effectively replacing Chris Paul like that. Someone has to be the new point guard after Chris Paul, and I wished it could be Booker, but I conceded that Booker does not have enough real playmaking skills to handle it. I hope he defies such expectations for more than one game. I'm not saying he will, only that I hope so. Because it's not just that there's no permanent solution; it's that there's no money to get a good starting point guard from free agency, and a trade would be difficult. If Booker could develop enough point guard skills to keep up what he just did, to make him the new point guard sure would be the simplest and quickest solution.
I look at it this way, we need two good starting guards. Without CP, we have just one. Sure, we could move Devin to point and hope he continues to improve but without a star level shooting guard next to him, we're still going to have problems.

I like using him as a PG for a few minutes a game but he really needs to have a quick ballhandler playing alongside him. But after a few minutes of success like that the other team always starts picking him up early and forcing the ball out of his hands. If you have someone like Lee step up big like he did, that's great but otherwise we've now limited our star guard to mostly decoy duty.
 
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I hope Landry Shamet gets healthy soon. I'm not sure if he can fill the role of a combo guard but this is one of the Suns needs.

Not only that, but I'd like to see Duane Washington Jr. get some time in this role if he can cut down on the turnovers.
 

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I look at it this way, we need two good starting guards. Without CP, we have just one. Sure, we could move Devin to point and hope he continues to improve but without a star level shooting guard next to him, we're still going to have problems.

I like using him as a PG for a few minutes a game but he really needs to have a quick ballhandler playing alongside him. But after a few minutes of success like that the other team always starts picking him up early and forcing the ball out of his hands. If you have someone like Lee step up big like he did, that's great but otherwise we've now limited our star guard to mostly decoy duty.
I agree with this. But having Book able to play point broadens the field for who we can play next to him. Pg or sg.

Still wish we could nab Bogdan.
 
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