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Sheed can guarantee future in Detroit

By Chad Ford
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Monday, May 24
Updated: May 24
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Joe Namath once guaranteed a Jets victory in the Super Bowl, forever immortalizing himself in the upper pantheon of sports heros. They say that copying is the ultimate form of flattery and, over the years, the playoff "guarantee" has become the staple of NBA stars when their team is on the ropes.
When an NBA star "guarantees" victory, what does that mean? The most plausible explanation is that the star is saying that he won't let his team lose. To make such a bold proclamation, you normally have to be the guy with the greatest ability to change the outcome of the game.
But what happens when someone else makes the prediction? When it's the ball boy, the trainer or, dare we say Rasheed Wallace, guarantees victory?
You've got to love the fact that, after ignoring the media for the last decade, when Rasheed finally chose to say something other than "both teams played hard," the words coming out of his mouth were actually interesting.
Just minutes after the Pistons lost Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals to the Pacers on Saturday evening, Sheed stepped in front of the media throng and did what a 100 players had done before him -- he guaranteed victory in Game 2.
"I'm guaranteeing Game 2. That's the bottom line. That's all I'm saying. They will not win Game 2. You heard that from me. Ya'll can print whatever you want. Put it on the front page, back page, middle of the page. They will not win Game 2."
On Sunday, he wasn't back tracking.
"I said it last night and I'm saying it again: We will win Game 2," Wallace said. "I'm not trying to sound ignorant or anything, but we will win."



Wallace will need plenty of help from his teammates to make good on his promise.
Last time we checked, however, basketball was a team game and no one else on the Pistons was quite ready to backup Sheed's claim. Maybe because Sheed's four-point, seven-rebound performance in Game 1 didn't exactly instill confidence in his teammates. Maybe it's because, in the playoffs, Sheed is actually averaging just 12.4 ppg and 7.6 rpg on 41 percent shooting. He's shooting 23 percent from behind the 3-point arc and averaging more turnovers than assists.
The whole idea of "guaranteeing" victory is a silly ritual to begin with . . . but when it's done by a guy who isn't even the second-most important player on the team, it becomes flat out ridiculous.
These last 13 playoff games have been all about two people for the Pistons -- Richard Hamilton and Ben Wallace. Hamilton has been money throughout the three series, averaging 20.6 ppg, shooting 41 percent from 3, dishing out 4.4 apg and, many times, carrying his team. Surprisingly, he's also been the most consistent defensively.
Ben Wallace has been his regular dominant self in the paint. He's averaging 14.5 rpg, 2.85 bpg and grabbed an impressive 22 rebounds in the series opener in Indiana. He's the heart and soul of a Pistons team that relies on its tough, aggressive defense to win.
If anyone should be making guarantees, it should be those guys. Instead, on Sunday, they were forced into cliche mode trying to deflect the ramifications of Sheed's promise. Unlike Sheed, who may or may not decide to show up on Monday, his teammates will now have to carry the burden of his promises.
"Ain't no pressure on me," said Wallace. "We put pressure on ourselves. We're ready. We have to prepare ourselves. If that's what it takes, then that's what it takes. We put ourselves in a tough situation. We just have to come out and play basketball."
Even coach Larry Brown was hesitant to back up Sheed given that he gets in foul trouble early and spends a lot of time waving towels from the bench.
"Knowing him, he feels responsible for the game last night," Brown said. "But again, the guy's in foul trouble right off the bat in almost every game. . .I think it was in the heat of the moment. He was upset with the way the game went, and he just said that. But we have to play. It ain't about Rasheed only; it's about all of us. We got to get it done."
No, Sheed has to get it done. His performance in Game 2 could have ramifications that could reverberate through the Pistons' team and front office all summer. If Sheed is true to his word and comes out and leads his Pistons to victory in Indiana (the Pacers haven't lost at home in the playoffs), he may very well prove something that he's been unable to prove throughout his career -- that he's a leader who has the ability to step it up in big games.


Mehmet Okur
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Detroit Pistons

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We've known forever that Sheed has the talent to be a top-10 player in the league. The questions are about his head. He can answer them for Joe Dumars and his teammates by making good on his promise tonight, by leading his team to victory.
If he fails, as he's done for too much of the series, the questions will only loom larger. Dumars has before him one of the toughest decisions any GM will face this summer. He wants to re-sign both Sheed and Mehmet Okur, but might not have the money to do it. Do you give Sheed the big deal and hope that this year wasn't a contract-year act? Or do you go with the younger, tougher but not as talented (or expensive) Okur?
Sheed can make up Dumars' mind for him by playing a key role in a Pistons victory tonight. If he doesn't, the questions will just grow more clouded as the Pistons hang on for dear life in the playoffs and face an interesting summer this offseason.

Around the League -- Playoffs

Lakers Shaqued: There isn't much to really write about the Timberwolves-Lakers series at this point. The series is tied one-one and just about everyone over the age of five has got this series figured out. If Shaq decides to show up and play, the Lakers steamroll the Wolves. If he takes the day off, like he did Sunday night in Minnesota, the Lakers are in trouble. Big trouble.
Shaq followed up a dominant Game 1 performance (27 points, 18 rebounds) with a dreadful 14-point stinker in Game 2. Yes, the Timberwolves hounded O'Neal all night and did a good job keeping him from catching the ball in the paint . . . but 10 shots from the most dominant basketball player in the world was about more than good defense. Shaq decided not to play hard in Game 2, an ever-increasing phenomenon that has to drive the Lakers nuts.
"They played a little bit harder than we did," Shaq told reporters after the game. What he meant was that everyone on the Wolves, including back-up point guard Darrick Martin (15 points), played harder than he did.
"It's not about the Timberwolves or the officials or anything else," said Derek Fisher. "It's about the way we play the game as a team." What he meant was that it's about the way Shaq plays the game.
The good news for Lakers fans is that Shaq is always capable of turning it on when the Lakers need him to. He promised a different team would show up in L.A. on Tuesday.
"A little bit disappointed, but it happens. I won't be looking to go 4 for 10 in L.A. Guys are a little upset. I know how we're going to react on Tuesday when we play." What he meant was that he knows how Shaq is going to react on Tuesday. That could be very bad news for the Wolves.

Around the League -- Offseason

T-Mac's choice:
We've got breaking news folks. The Magic have been waiting on pins and needles all summer as Tracy McGrady decided whether he'd opt out of his contract in 2005 and bolt the Magic. It sounds like T-Mac has already made up his mind.


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"I know exactly what I'm going to do," he told the N.Y. Times on Saturday. Whew! Here we go Magic fans. Brace yourself. Drumroll please . . .
"I don't know; we'll see. I haven't made up my mind yet, but I kind of have an idea of what I want to do."
There you go, Magic brass. T-Mac knows exactly that he kind of has an idea about what he wants to do. I'm sure that's really going to help the offseason planning that the team is doing this summer.
The Magic have been hoping for a month now that McGrady will reveal his decision to them early. If he's going to stay, the team's draft strategy and free-agent policy will all be geared toward finding veteran college and NBA players who can contribute immediately.
If he's going to bolt, the team would like to trade him this summer and start rebuilding from scratch. That affects everything from the draft, to the expansion draft to free agency.
For now, at least, McGrady is still holding his team hostage. Rumors have been running rampant all summer that he wants out, but prefers to opt out (instead of a trade) so that he can pick his team. Expect the team to know more after Wednesday's draft lottery. If the Magic grab the No. 1 pick (they have the best chance -- 25 percent) they'll likely add the one player in the draft -- Emeka Okafor -- who has a real shot of contributing to a team right now.
That could lead to a number of scenarios that allow the Magic to build a contender this summer. If they fall beyond the top pick, the Magic will probably have to face the reality that there's not a lot of hope of completely turning around the team this year.

Kenyon to the max:
Now that the Nets' season is over, the team turns its attention to re-signing restricted free agent Kenyon Martin. The two sides were far apart in contract negotiations last summer. Martin wanted the max, the Nets were offering significantly less.
With Martin's strong play throughout the year and in the playoffs, the team's position has undeniably changed. However, a source inside the Nets told Insider that they still don't believe Martin is a max player and are praying that another team with cap room doesn't offer him one.


Kenyon Martin
Power Forward
New Jersey Nets

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The Nets are probably out of luck. Several teams have a lot of cap room. One of them, the Hawks, need an athletic four in the worst way and have so much cap room at their disposal that they'll be willing to overpay a bit to jump start the rebuilding process. Don't be surprised if the Hawks come out of the gates swinging and give Martin an offer sheet for six years at the max. They have so much money, and doing so will not impair their ability to sign another free agent while the Nets take their 15 days to decide whether to match.
That will put enormous pressure on the Nets. They don't want to pay Martin the max, but they don't want to lose him for nothing either. Chances are the Nets match the offer and then explore other ways to cut costs. With Richard Jefferson and Jason Collins looking for contract extensions this summer, their payroll (already an enormous $59.9 million next year) could swell out of control in a matter of months.

Did Cohan or Mullin hire Montgomery? Chris Mullin has only been in charge of the Warriors for a few weeks and there's already whispers coming out of the Bay that owner Chris Cohan has usurped his power. Several reports out of the Bay Area, based mostly on speculation, claim that Stanford coach Mike Montgomery was Cohan's choice to lead the Warriors in the post-Eric Musselman era.
The same sentiment is running high among NBA GMs who are stunned by the hire. Hiring a local college stud like Montgomery usually only happens when an owner is looking for a nice PR bump. The fact that Mullin, a former player, would hire someone like Montgomery is stunning to just about everyone.
Montgomery himself also stumbled out of the gate at his press conference when he made a statement that just reeked of a college coach ready to go out and teach his "student-athletes."
"I've got to believe there are a lot of players in the NBA that want to learn," Montgomery said. "I'm just not convinced this can't be done the right way."
Musselman believed the same thing that Montgomery did. Most of the players under his tutelage improved dramatically. It got him fired in two years not because of the results, but because the players chaffed at being forced to do things "the right way."
Montgomery also claimed that the reason other college coaches had failed before him were because of troubled organizations.
"The NBA is really hard if you're not in a good organization, if you don't have good ownership, if you don't have good leadership," he said. "The guys who have gone straight from college to the NBA and not done well, in most instances, they got into very bad situations."
True enough. But what does Montgomery think he's getting into? The Warriors are in the midst of the largest current playoff drought in the NBA. Their owner is widely regarded as the second worst in the league to the Clippers' Donald Sterling. Their front office has essentially been inept for the last decade. Chances are the team will lose both centers to free agency this summer without an ounce of compensation.
He's in the very definition of a very bad situation and, if he's right about college coaches' success rates in bad organizations, he'll be back coaching college next year.

Around the League - Draft

Who shot J.R.? Here's the funny thing about teenagers and the NBA draft. One minute they can look like super heros and the next . . . like they should seriously consider spending a few years in college. Just a day after high school phenom J.R. Smith told Insider that he hired an agent, destroying his college eligibility, he went into a workout in front of the Blazers and Jazz and laid a tremendous egg.
Smith, who was working out against Texas Tech's Andre Emmett, was awful. Insider was in the Santa Monica gym on Friday to witness the massacre. Smith's outside jumper, the one he stunned scouts with at the high school all-stars games, was in rare poor form. His shot kept coming up short in shooting drills and looked even worse when Emmett put a hand in his face.
But that wasn't the real concern. It looked like Smith hurt his shoulder near the start of the workout. Even if the injury wasn't serious, scouts have seen enough of him to know that he's a great perimeter shooter. One bad shooting day in a gym won't kill your stock.
What will do it, however, is laziness. Smith had zero energy in his workout and a total lack of intensity. For most of the workout he was going at half speed and Emmett made him pay. Emmett consistently drove past Smith when he had the ball. Smith's defense was almost non-existent. Offensively, Smith struggled to get by Emmett and settled for pull-up jumpers that rarely found his mark.
After the workout, one of the scouts in the gym remarked to me that the workout was one of the worst they've seen in awhile. "I'm not sure what was going on," the scout told Insider. "Did he have a late night partying and just wasn't ready to play? Or is this how the kid is in these situations? Maybe he just doesn't practice or play hard. I was totally unimpressed. Totally."
That doesn't bode well for Smith. Both the Blazers (No. 13) and the Jazz (No. 14 and 16) were both seriously considering Smith with their picks. While one workout won't kill you, it's tough to imagine that either team could feel good about taking him after what they saw on Friday.

Another international sleeper:
On Friday morning I traveled down to another gym in L.A. to check out Venezuala's Miguel Marriaga, a 6-foot-10, 19-year-old forward who applied for the draft. Marriaga made a name for himself at the Under 20's in Greece last summer, when he averaged 16.5 ppg, 11 rpg and 3.4 bpg for the tournament. He also impressed several scouts at the Olympic Qualifying Tournament in Puerto Rico last summer when he dropped 14 points and seven rebounds in 16 minutes against Argentina.

Miguel Marriaga is skilled for a big man, but he needs more time in the weight room.
Marriaga has been in Los Angeles since January working on his game with Lamar Odom's former coach, Jerry DeGregorio, and is in the draft looking for a team to guarantee him a first-round spot. Will he get it?
Marriaga is a big-time athlete who likes to play in the paint with his back to the basket. He's got a great vertical jump, is a top-tier shot blocker and has really good foot work (like many South American players soccer helps with that). He's got a 7-foot-3 inch wingspan and is very quick.
He's spent all of his time in international competition playing the four and looked most comfortable on the block. He had several quick spins moves in the paint that were impressive and attacked the rim with both hands every chance that he got.
The questions about Marriaga boil down to two things. While he has a power forward game, his thin frame suggests that he has a three's body. If he's going to play four in the league, he's going to have to put on a lot of muscle. Looking at him, I'm not sure he's going to do that for a while.
If he's forced to play the three, his perimeter game and ball handling must improve. He actually showed a pretty nice touch from 18 feet out and did a great job of using the glass from 10 feet in. His ball handling wasn't bad for a 6-foot-10 guy, but it's still not up to NBA standard for the position yet.
Marriaga told Insider that he's been mainly working on his perimeter skills since arriving in the U.S., so obviously his agent and coach anticipated the criticism. From the scouting reports I got from several NBA teams that had seen him prior to January, he's improved a lot in both areas. Still, given his talent at shot blocking and rebounding, it seems like the time may have been better spent getting him into the weight room and bulking him up a bit.
Where does he go in the draft? Based on athleticism and potential, he could be a late-first-rounder -- a Samuel Dalembert type who could improve with a few years of coaching and weight training. More likely, however, he's a second-round pick at this point. The first round is way too crowded and not enough teams have a handle on him to make that call. If he stays projected in the second round, there's a chance he'll pull out of the draft, play in Europe for a year, and try again next spring.

American sleeper: Ha Seung Jin and J.R. Smith were the big SFX attractions in Santa Monica over the weekend, but another college player caught just about everyone's eye. Utah's Nick Jacobsen did a phenomenal job shooting the ball over the course of the two days that I was in the gym. His effortless 3-point shot put Smith's to shame. It shouldn't come as too much of a surprise. Jacobsen shot a sizzling 44 percent from behind the arc for Utah last season. He's pretty one dimensional, but could easily play the same type of role that Steve Kerr and Fred Hoiberg have played in the league for seasons. That killer shot combined with decent athleticism, size and defense should land him somewhere in the second round.


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After keeping my eye on JR Smith at Hoops Summit - I do believe he could be a defender but I had heard he might have attitude problems and if you watch game, he does look a little lazy and was taken out after 3PTer from nearly halfcourt and I didn't like his look on face with a Joe Kleine lecture (assistant coach on team). After watching a tiny bit more than half of game - you can see talent though.
 

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About JR, a couple of good all star games is not enough to turn a raw talent into an immediate impact player. Remember Travis Outlaw and Ndudi Ebi?
 

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Remember Travis Outlaw and Ndudi Ebi?

You know what Curt Schilling said: "Outlaw and Ebi are just girls at the strip club."
 

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elindholm said:
Remember Travis Outlaw and Ndudi Ebi?

You know what Curt Schilling said: "Outlaw and Ebi are just girls at the strip club."

I'm not sure I even WANT to know that means. :wave:
 

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If I was told I would be a top16 pick I would flop in a workout as well if it was for the Jazz.

I would absolutely not be surprised if JR Smith wants to avoid being drafted by the Jazz.
 

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slinslin said:
If I was told I would be a top16 pick I would flop in a workout as well if it was for the Jazz.

I would absolutely not be surprised if JR Smith wants to avoid being drafted by the Jazz.

You don't think the New York City boy would like the bright lights of Salt Lake City? :p

Seriously, I doubt that they will go for another project shooter. Pavlovic was very disappointing, 39.6% shooting, but he was a great shooter in Europe and should improve next season. Taking JR would mean they "blew" that draft pick.
 

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