Mayock doesn't sound to me like he would want to trade up

[Proximo]

My two Raiders buddies want to dump Carr and get Murray. They think Carr is average and you can only win with him if your team is loaded.

Yep - which is exactly what I think everyone will realize in a couple years with Rosen. At best he is average.

Not sure Murray is a star, but there is a better chance he is than Rosen.