Metta World Peace Assaults Harden (ugly vid)

[95pro]

Nicely put Steve. Exactly what I feel abou the situation.

 

[95pro]

If you wore that short skirt and jumped on top of a crazy known rapist (Kobe, say) then I'd also say the same...wtf are you thinking? Wrong on that guy, but come on.

It's not like everyone in the NBA doesn't know that Artest is crazy. You can bump just about anyone in the NBA and not expect to be assaulted...but I'd walk on eggshells around that unstable chap.

Harden did nothing wrong...very true. But he also wasn't super smart, because the very last person I'd bump into when they were all emotional and extra crazy is Ron Artest. Does it excuse it? Hell no. But be smart, ffs. You saw both Ibaka and Westbrook both puff their chests out but then get smart about 10 yards from Artest...they aren't idiots and they know that muffer is crazy as crazy gets.

Qft.

 

[carrrnuttt]

If you wore that short skirt and jumped on top of a crazy known rapist (Kobe, say) then I'd also say the same...wtf are you thinking? Wrong on that guy, but come on.

Wrong analogy, bucko.

More like a girl with a short skirt stuck in a dead elevator with Kobe the rapist. Harden (the rape victim) had EVERY right to be where he (she) was, but the assault had no place REGARDLESS of the situation both were in.

 

[Mainstreet]

Watch the first 6 seconds of that video and focus on Harden. He was about 2 feet away from Artest and barely bumped into him as he was getting ready to receive the inbound pass. That type of bump happens nearly every time a basket is made in the NBA.

We agree, however, the contact was initiated by Artest upon close examination.

If one looks at the replay Harden was moving forward slowly in a straight line to get the in-bounds pass when Artest goes directly into Harden and delivers a severe blow to the head with the elbow. I think the video is very clear in regards to this. It appears some would suggest Harden did not have the right to be where he was on the court when he was just doing a normal basketball behavior.

 

[desertdawg]

The slow motion version is the best, reminds me of that Waterboy scene where the announcers says "There's a lot of pain in those eyes...chilling." Artest is straight crazy, he didn't run somebody down and assault them, he was stomping on little man made buildings and ripping down power lines. Crazy beard ran right into it, I think he was just expecting Crazy World to knock him over and get the foul or something, but when Artest clowned him like that is was not a flop. Wild animals attack when least expected, giant mutated creatures discovered on little islands destroy towns, Crazy World will both as long as they let him on the court.

A lotta smart players will try and get to a spot (gaining position) when they see another teams player runniing in stride while not looking, Hornacek was good at it, Nash has done it early in his carreer, this unfortunately was not one of those times to be that smart player.

 

[D-Dogg]

We agree, however, the contact was initiated by Artest upon close examination.

If one looks at the replay Harden was moving forward slowly in a straight line to get the in-bounds pass when Artest goes directly into Harden and delivers a severe blow to the head with the elbow. I think the video is very clear in regards to this. It appears some would suggest Harden did not have the right to be where he was on the court when he was just doing a normal basketball behavior.

Are you just looking at the slo mo replay?

Live action of what actually happened is more telling. Things don't happen in slo-mo. If they did, Artest should be jailed.

 

[Superbone]

I have no idea why Harden would even go near Ron during a beating the chest moment. Stupid move.

Yeah, that was all Harden's fault, right Donald? You stay classy, Laker fans.

 

[Superbone]

Yeah blame it on Harden. Stay classy Laker fans.

D'oh! Beaten (pun intended) to it.

 

[Mainstreet]

Are you just looking at the slo mo replay?

Live action of what actually happened is more telling. Things don't happen in slo-mo. If they did, Artest should be jailed.

I've watched the incident full speed and slo-mo video. Because a player does something fast does it make it less offensive? I don't think so. Just watch a boxing match where things happen fast. Sometimes it is even hard to see the knock out blow. Metta World Peace could have destroyed Harden if the blow landed in his face.

I understand you are a Laker fan so I can understand your feelings as a fan. But Metta World Peace is not new to the party. The Lakers can do better than this even if it costs them short term. They have a legacy of great players. Metta World Peace should not tarnish this image.

 

[Superbone]

I like how the announcer instantly reverted to calling him "Ron Artest." So much for the name change.

That was apropos. I personally will never call him by his requested name again.

 

[Superbone]

I've watched the incident full speed and slo-mo video. Because a player does something fast does it make it less offensive? I don't think so. Just watch a boxing match where things happen fast. Sometimes it is even hard to see the knock out blow. Metta World Peace could have destroyed Harden if the blow landed in his face.

I understand you are a Laker fan so I can understand your feelings as a fan. But Metta World Peace is not new to the party. The Lakers can do better than this even if it costs them short term. They have a legacy of great players. Metta World Peace should not tarnish this image.

Magic himself said it best. He is disgusted as a former Laker. First Bynum on Barea and now this.

 

[Superbone]

On top of being a thug, Artest is a bold-faced liar:

"I got real emotional and excited, and it was unfortunate that James had to get hit with the unintentional elbow," said xxxxx xxxxx.

 

[asudevil83]

anyone think the NBA will look at how the NHL handled the Torres hit.

this can and probably will have serious playoff implications. Harden is extremely important to the Thunder, and with the Lakers and Thunder potentially meeting in the second round this could cripple them.

i think we'll see something along the lines of complete playoff ban and probably 10-20 games next season at least.

 

[D-Dogg]

Yeah, that was all Harden's fault, right Donald? You stay classy, Laker fans.

D'oh! Beaten (pun intended) to it.

You don't know how to read either, huh?

 

[D-Dogg]

I've watched the incident full speed and slo-mo video. Because a player does something fast does it make it less offensive? I don't think so. Just watch a boxing match where things happen fast. Sometimes it is even hard to see the knock out blow. Metta World Peace could have destroyed Harden if the blow landed in his face.

I understand you are a Laker fan so I can understand your feelings as a fan. But Metta World Peace is not new to the party. The Lakers can do better than this even if it costs them short term. They have a legacy of great players. Metta World Peace should not tarnish this image.

You misunderstand my statement. Slo mo makes things look very different than they are in reality. Did he do it on purpose? Absolutely. No doubt. However, he also had no friggin idea who was there, just there was a guy on him (which actually, IMO, makes it more frightening) and he blew him up. In slow-mo you can expect all kinds of malice, forethought, etc. There was none. Artest simply flipped the ef out like he is wont to do. That's the danger of Artest on your team...he's likely to flip out. It wasn't premeditated, it wasn't even probably conscious on the idiot's part. In slo mo, it looks plodding and calculated and incredibly vicious. It was violent and uncalled for, but it wasn't what it appears in slo mo.

And for all the "stay classy laker fan" posters...Raja Bell's clothesline was more premeditated and calculated by far, and most of this board wet themselves in glee over it. Don't hypocrite...especially when I'm not in any way condoning what Artest did and instead am saying that Harden should have gotten the ef out of the crazy effer's way if he had a lick of sense.

BTW, the best thing about having Artest on your team is that he doesn't do that to your team...when he was on the Rockets I always felt we were one bad synapse firing from Kobe being knocked cold by Artest. Dude is completely mental.

 

[JustWinBaby]

Magic himself said it best. He is disgusted as a former Laker. First Bynum on Barea and now this.

If you remember Artest also closelined Barea in that series as well. I am not sure which game, but it could have been the same one Bynum nailed him. Artest's closeline to Barea was almost as dangerous as the elbow he nailed Harden with today.

Give him life.

What is really sad is the elbow man himself, Kobe was sticking up for his main man in the post game.

Magic should be embarassed and he was/is.

 

[PhxGametime]

Well it's the Lakers were talking about, so Artest will probably get fined $5,000 and suspended 1 game but there will be a new rule put in place about suspending players (on 28 Teams) for the whole year with similar hits...


It's bad enough the officiating has become joke.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

We agree, however, the contact was initiated by Artest upon close examination.

If one looks at the replay Harden was moving forward slowly in a straight line to get the in-bounds pass when Artest goes directly into Harden and delivers a severe blow to the head with the elbow. I think the video is very clear in regards to this. It appears some would suggest Harden did not have the right to be where he was on the court when he was just doing a normal basketball behavior.

Yep - very clear he was moving slowly in a straight line to get the inbounds pass ... that is what you do after a made bucket ...... you get ready to inbounds the ball, they even time you to make sure you do it fast enough

he was watching his teamate under the baseline and lightly bumped the chest beating idiot

usually it's on the person who is celebrating wildly to move to an area where they can act like a dope and not bring play to a stop so everyone can admire their antics

but then again artest has never been that smart

although, it's almost worth it to see a jersey with "world peace" on it throw such an elbow and then get led out the tunnel..........

 

[MigratingOsprey]

other good notes are the two handed crotch grab when squaring off with Ibaka and then him simulating the gorilla chest bump to the officials.............

and seriously - harden was within the charge circle, artest moved towards him, he looks to his right and puts up a forearm trying to get around artest and get ready for the inbounds

artest then drills him with an elbow after artest moves into him because he's too busy celebrating instead of pulling his head out of his posterior

harden has zero culpability in all of this

 

[Mainstreet]

You misunderstand my statement. Slo mo makes things look very different than they are in reality. Did he do it on purpose? Absolutely. No doubt. However, he also had no friggin idea who was there, just there was a guy on him (which actually, IMO, makes it more frightening) and he blew him up. In slow-mo you can expect all kinds of malice, forethought, etc. There was none. Artest simply flipped the ef out like he is wont to do. That's the danger of Artest on your team...he's likely to flip out. It wasn't premeditated, it wasn't even probably conscious on the idiot's part. In slo mo, it looks plodding and calculated and incredibly viscous. It was violent and uncalled for, but it wasn't what it appears in slo mo.

Fast mode, slo-mode, the same thing happened.

And for all the "stay classy laker fan" posters...Raja Bell's clothesline was more premeditated and calculated by far, and most of this board wet themselves in glee over it. Don't hypocrite...especially when I'm not in any way condoning what Artest did and instead am saying that Harden should have gotten the ef out of the crazy effer's way if he had a lick of sense.

Perhaps you forget that Kobe had perpetually elbowed Raja in the face in that Laker series. I'm not condoning what Raja did but it there was a legitimate reason for the retaliation since the referees were swallowing their whistles. Raja plays tough defense but he is not know as a hot head. Raja did not attempt to hurt Kobe. In fact he took Kobe down for all to see. If Raja were inclined, he could have given Kobe a dose of his own medicine by popping him with his elbow and inflicting some real injury.

BTW, the best thing about having Artest on your team is that he doesn't do that to your team...when he was on the Rockets I always felt we were one bad synapse firing from Kobe being knocked cold by Artest. Dude is completely mental.

I don't know how you can rationalize Metta World Peace's behavior on one one hand and defend his actions on the other hand. It seems if you claim Metta World Peace is "completely mental" it somehow makes it all better.

 

[boisesuns]

It seemed like Harden was going to come back, and then they sent him back to the locker room. Often times, the suspension seems to be tied to the injury of the other player. Hopefully it's the intent and the potential of what could have happened that gets taken into account. (And hopefully harden is ok)

The nba didn't need this. First the lockout lost a lot of fans, and now the suspension length better send a message that this isn't tolerated.

but then again, we're talking about it!

 

[Mathew81]

It seemed like Harden was going to come back, and then they sent him back to the locker room. Often times, the suspension seems to be tied to the injury of the other player. Hopefully it's the intent and the potential of what could have happened that gets taken into account. (And hopefully harden is ok)

He has a concussion:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/e...ffers-concussion-from-metta-world-peace-elbow

Harden will be subject to the NBA's new concussion policy, which mandates that Dr. Jeffrey Kutcher, a professor of neurology at the University of Michigan and the Director of the NBA's Concussion Program, must independently clear Harden before he can return to the court.

The Oklahoman reported that it "could be a few days" before Harden is able to receive said clearance and that he did not address reporters on Sunday. It's not clear whether he will be able to play in OKC's two remaining regular season games.

 

[D-Dogg]

Fast mode, slo-mode, the same thing happened.

Please...let's not act like slo mo doesn't add drama to live action.

Perhaps you forget that Kobe had perpetually elbowed Raja in the face in that Laker series. I'm not condoning what Raja did but it there was a legitimate reason for the retaliation since the referees were swallowing their whistles. Raja plays tough defense but he is not know as a hot head. Raja did not attempt to hurt Kobe. In fact he took Kobe down for all to see. If Raja were inclined, he could have given Kobe a dose of his own medicine by popping him with his elbow and inflicting some real injury.

Like that makes ANY difference. It was a cheap shot. Potentially very harmful.

I don't know how you can rationalize Metta World Peace's behavior on one one hand and defend his actions on the other hand. It seems if you claim Metta World Peace is "completely mental" it somehow makes it all better.

I don't defend his actions at all. I don't know how you get that from anything I've posted. What I have said is that it wasn't premeditated, and he had no clue who he was hitting. Defend it? No way...it was ridiculous and as I said, whatever he gets as a suspension will be too little. It was nasty.

 

[Superbone]

You don't know how to read either, huh?

I read it perfectly. Maybe you don't know how to write.

 

[Superbone]

You misunderstand my statement. Slo mo makes things look very different than they are in reality.

What slo mo does is show you the nuances. That is why slo mo is a staple of sports broadcasts.