Miami/Riley Hot after Amare- Per Yahoo..

[ASUCHRIS]

Well someone out there has to want Beasley. Who could the Suns flip him for?

Good question, Beasley is cheap, young and productive and talented. He doesn't play much defense, but that doesn't differentiate him from anyone else. It would be interesting to see what we could flip him for, considering we could take a young player at the 1,2,3 or 4.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Long run (me) vs. short run (you)

I'm ready for this team to actually make moves that lay a true foundation for a future as opposed to middling around as they always have....

sign on.

that said, i read an article the other day hypothesizing on trading amare to the nets for their 1st and other stuff. the thought being that harris, lopez, lee, yi and amare would be a nice young core to build on. i think that's right.

and from the suns perspective getting the #1 pick in the draft (a possibility) and that turning into john wall would be stupendous. if a future #1 or other young/filler player was added i'd be ecstatic.

 

[elindholm]

and from the suns perspective getting the #1 pick in the draft (a possibility) and that turning into john wall would be stupendous.

The probability of the Nets trading their upcoming pick without top-1 protection is zero. I doubt they'd even do it for James.

 

[devilalum]

The probability of the Nets trading their upcoming pick without top-1 protection is zero. I doubt they'd even do it for James.

Kerr is the only GM that trades picks with no protection.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Unfortunately it all seems moot, because the Suns apparently have zero interest in Beasley, which I just don't understand. He'd seem to be a nice compliment for Clark and Lopez. It would be an interesting young front court that can score, play D and run.

It's because Kerr is too into character guys as a GM. He's big into the team chemistry song and dance.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

It's because Kerr is too into character guys as a GM. He's big into the team chemistry song and dance.

Maddog seems to be pretty affable, and he's a former champ just like Kerr. Perhaps we should give him a go.

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[hcsilla]

Well someone out there has to want Beasley. Who could the Suns flip him for?

James Harden?

When we dump both Barbosa and J-Rich on Miami, then would get enough cap space to offer the max. for Bosh while Harden (hometwon-guy) would take the SG spot for long-term.

 

[Chaplin]

James Harden?

When we dump both Barbosa and J-Rich on Miami, then would get enough cap space to offer the max. for Bosh while Harden (hometwon-guy) would take the SG spot for long-term.

What? The Heat will NEVER trade for JRich. Ever. They already have a shooting guard who is a lot better.

Why do people think Miami will trade for JRich? It's mind-boggling.

 

[hcsilla]

The good old Chaplin.

Their SG/SF who plays alongside Dwayne Wade is Quentin Richardson. I can't think of anything that Q-Rich can do on the floor and J-Rich can't.

 

[Mr. Boldin]

The Heat arent taking back anyone's contract (who doesnt expire) outside of Amare, so the rest is just fans dreaming about a better deal for the Suns.

I just dont see antoher deal coming together where the team receiving Amare feels confident that they can re-sign him.

The Suns have 3 options...

1. Trade Amare to the Heat and get back a productive PF who fits into their system on a rookie contract while clearing cap space.

2. Attempt to sign and trade Amare this summer (ends in a piss poor package or Amare just flat out leaving)

3. Re-sign Amare

Riley isnt going to budge much more on this deal. Right now Kerr has to decide if he wants to give in to Amare and pay him or clear cap and add a building block in Beasley.

 

[hcsilla]

The Heat arent taking back anyone's contract (who doesnt expire) outside of Amare, so the rest is just fans dreaming about a better deal for the Suns.

That's possible but the rumoured deal included O'Neal which is possible only if either J-Rich or Barbosa gets traded too.

The simplier version might be Beasley, Haslem, Wright for Amare but I'm not sure that the Suns would do this deal.

Beasley is a smaller, less athletic, better jumpshooting version of the young Amare with less upside.

 

[elindholm]

Their SG/SF who plays alongside Dwayne Wade is Quentin Richardson. I can't think of anything that Q-Rich can do on the floor and J-Rich can't.

Well, that's true. But Q can do one very important thing that J can't, which is disappear this summer. That trumps all of the on-court considerations.

 

[AsUdUdE]

Haslem's contract expires after this season, he is not worth the 7 million he makes...

Wright is a 8-9th player...

I would not do the deal if it were just Haslem/Wright/Beasley...

We would be worse as a team, and have no cap space to speak of... NO THANKS..

The only way Miami get STAT is to take Richardson too.. period end of story...

 

[Superbone]

Unfortunately it all seems moot, because the Suns apparently have zero interest in Beasley, which I just don't understand. He'd seem to be a nice compliment for Clark and Lopez. It would be an interesting young front court that can score, play D and run.

Says who?

 

[HooverDam]

The Heat won't take Richardson. If the Suns do a trade with the Heat, it will be something like Stoudemire/Amundson for Beasley/Haslem/filler(Wright)/pick. Which I would be fine with, by the way.

What makes you so sure? Its not like JRich has a terrible contract, and by bringing in Amare the Heat are saying theyre not going after super big names in the 2010 class. Yes he plays the same position as D-Wade, but D-Wade plays the 1 a bit for the Heat, and JRich rebounds and plays the post well for his size, so he could play the 3 a bit.

Either way, with or without JRich going, Id do this deal if I was the Suns. If the core of the deal is Beasley+2010 1st rounder+filler, I don't see how the Suns can pass it up. But of course Kerr and Sarver are idiots, so we'll see.

The NBA is irrelevant anymore to me. When I turn it on I get the "game is fixed" feeling. I already see a Laker/Celtic or Cleveland finals. Boring.... Refs have way to much of a outcome on the game and are made out like fools with flopping calls etc

Terrific, no on cares, don't post in a NBA thread if you dont like the NBA

Unfortunately it all seems moot, because the Suns apparently have zero interest in Beasley, which I just don't understand. He'd seem to be a nice compliment for Clark and Lopez. It would be an interesting young front court that can score, play D and run.

And do you know why they have no interest? Because Steve Kerr doesn't know crap about basketball or how to run a team! This guy needs to be run out of town on a pike, he's such a freakin' fool its maddening.

If JC was still around NO WAY the Suns ever consider this.

Sarver?

What are you talking about? JC was here during Marions tenure, Marion loved smoking pot as do a huge percentage of players Im sure. There's a giant difference between a kid smoking pot and being on coke.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Haslem's contract expires after this season, he is not worth the 7 million he makes...

Wright is a 8-9th player...

I would not do the deal if it were just Haslem/Wright/Beasley...

We would be worse as a team, and have no cap space to speak of... NO THANKS..

The only way Miami get STAT is to take Richardson too.. period end of story...

Besides, they still owe us for taking Shaq off their hands. I wonder how long it will take before Cleveland wants to unload the Big Load. Maybe we should call him "The Big Hot Potato"

 

[AfroSuns]

Besides, they still owe us for taking Shaq off their hands. I wonder how long it will take before Cleveland wants to unload the Big Load. Maybe we should call him "The Big Hot Potato"

Unload the big load???
They are playing great and i think Shaq is a little part of that, or will at least be if they get to the playoffs. imo, they are the team to beat.

 

[Mr. Boldin]

Why on earth would Miami take on Richardson's contract when they have the money available to just make a run at Bosh or Amare this summer?

Riley may be under pressure to make sure Wade is happy, but Miami is in the best position out of any team this summer. They already have bird rights to one of the best players in the world, have more cap space than anyone in the league, and can offer Miami Beach.

If I am Riley I refuse to take on any additional salary and call the Suns bluff that they will re-sign Amare. If they do re-sign Amare or somehow find a trade partner where Amare will re-sign, I shrug and make a run at LeBron, Bosh, Joe Johnson...

 

[devilalum]

What are you talking about? JC was here during Marions tenure, Marion loved smoking pot as do a huge percentage of players Im sure. There's a giant difference between a kid smoking pot and being on coke.

Do you remember Uncle Spliff?

 

[WildBB]

Well, that's true. But Q can do one very important thing that J can't, which is disappear this summer. That trumps all of the on-court considerations.

Besides Bosh, can you tell me some names that would be interested in coming here possibly next season?

 

[WildBB]

Besides, they still owe us for taking Shaq off their hands. I wonder how long it will take before Cleveland wants to unload the Big Load. Maybe we should call him "The Big Hot Potato"

Shaq also comes off the books this next offseason. He'll likely get a veteran exemption deal if he continues somewhere.

 

[Sunburn]

The original trade proposed in this thread (Beasley/O'Neal/#1) would be the best of all worlds for this team. If that's on the table, stop wasting time.

The 2nd trade (Beasley/Haslem/Wright/#1) is a very good trade that I would pull the trigger on as well. Obviously, I am less enthusiastic about this one because we would lose Lou and we'd keep JRich, but I'd do that deal.

If we find a way to lose Amare/JRich while keeping Amundson/Dudley/Clark/Dragic and adding youth (Beasley) and a pick, we come out WAAAY ahead. Then, all that would be left to do is send Nash to NYK or TOR to get cap relief and a pick.

This team isn't shipping Nash. Give it a rest people.

 

[Covert Rain]

No it's not. How can you say that when KEEPING Nash is a business decision?

GUARANTEED the Suns as a franchise would lose money if they traded Nash away. And probably for crap if you want to send him to NYK.

I agree that it's not a good business decision but it's a good basketball one. I freaking love Nash and I always will. However, he is not going to help us win a title and is too old to build around. I say trade him while he still has value. If your trading Amare then trading Nash makes sense IMO.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Says who?

Multiple sources, including Paul Coro, the Suns beat writer.

* Next, here's another link on how Miami President Pat Riley will be chasing Stoudemire hard over the next week leading up to the trade deadline. One of the scenarios involves Michael Beasley and that just won't happen, unless he is a piece the Suns would be taking to move on somewhere else.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/73631

 

[HooverDam]

Do you remember Uncle Spliff?

Yep there were a lot more reasons than just pot that he was moved, he wasn't that great of a player anymore if I recall. Like I said, Marion was a known pothead and Im sure lots of other guys JCs teams were through out the years, smoking weed occasionally is not a crime worthy of not doing a trade.

But it is to idiots like Kerr who would kill for a team of slow, unathletic, high motor, high energy, probably white, 'character' guys. Hm, sound like anyone? Oh yah- Steve Kerr! Shocking.

Its maddening the Suns aren't going to do by far and away the best deal we've heard rumored because Beasley smokes a joint now and again, ridiculous.