Mike Glennon a Card

[moklerman]

He is NOT a borderline starter. Come on. He's atrocious. He's lower than Stanton, IMO... and that's saying a ton because Stanton is warm garbage compared to Glennon's hot garbage.

I disagree. He put up 29TD/15INT as a rookie/2nd year starter for bad Buc's teams. His 84.6 rating as a Buc, especially considering those teams, tells me that he could be serviceable. Stanton's career 66 rating tells me he'd be lucky to be considered a borderline backup. Nowhere near a starter.

 

[moklerman]

Only angst because the starter is brittle which means Glennon will be called upon, perhaps for an entire season. SK had always loved Glennon so this isn't some surprise but it doesn't make the Cardinals any better than they were last year

Even with just the QB moves, I think the Cardinals ARE better than last year. Palmer had lost a lot off of his fastball and was making poor decisions leading to turnovers. Stanton was as bad as usual. So, even though it isn't flashy or seem like it, statistically the Cardinals are actually better off at QB right now than they were last year. Bradford is due for one of his healthy years and won't turn the ball over. That alone will be an improvement over Palmer who had regressed into throwing picks. Not only that, Palmer's accuracy had declined. 61.4% is on the low side in this day and age. Not horrible but with Bradford, that number will jump 8-10% if he continues with what he's been doing. That's a significant difference in completions and turnovers.

Who knows what the new o-line coach will do but he's worked some magic in the past. With David Johnson coming back, a potentially improved o-line, more efficient QB play...Cardinals fans should at least be cautiously optimistic IMO.

 

[Proximo]

Here’s an argument I’d like someone to make:

How does Glennon keep getting jobs yet Kaepernick can’t even get a tryout? Are people really going to argue that Glennon is better?

It’s politics. Kapernick will never get an nfl gig again.

 

[BigRedRage]

Lol. The term fanatic is really proven with the overreaction on here

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[BigRedRage]

Glennon is competing for the #2 job with a rookie and a udfa. Bank on it

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[AZ Native]

maybe they want to carry three.some teams do.... and they want the rook to have to work his way up the depth chart...
if Bradford falls in week three...they probably start Glennon.... but if he falls in week ten,... then they probably start the rook

i agree

 

[Buckybird]

Would it have been a good day if Cousins accepted the $145M offer? Or if the Cardinals agreed to trade 3, 4, 5 draft picks to move up and get...Josh Rosen? I'm certainly curious what would have kept you from the proverbial ledge today? I get the distinct impression that there is nothing the Cardinals can do before the games are actually played that won't have some(many?) really despondent.

I’ve never wanted Cousins based on $$$. Prepare for the future, because what Keim has put us in right now is he’s trying to field a competitive team that isn’t close enough to the playoffs because of its holes & play it safe instead of looking 2 years down the road.

He could change my mind if he went all out for a top QB prospect but He’s got to pick a side. Improve the Oline & WRs thru the draft or trade away multiple picks for that QB. It’s time to add that QB for 10-15 years imo.

We don’t have cap $$$ to improve our Oline now to protect Bradford enough which imo is why we shouldn’t have signed him.

Trade the draft picks for Allen or Mayfield. Go get some other loser QB for half the price to mind the throne for 8-16 games and spend the cap space on pieces that can help beyond 2018.

Write off next year for what it is. We’re gonna suck. But we could suck building for the future or suck trying to get back to 8-8. Keim opted for the latter. That means 2019 will probably suck too.

Ding ding ding!

 

[BigRedRage]

Free agency isn't even officially started and people already hate their favorite teams for not signing anyone they want like it's Madden

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[Treesquid PhD]

Agree with the poster above, Kiem has always loved Glennon, this doesn't shock me at all.

 

[moklerman]

I’ve never wanted Cousins based on $$$. Prepare for the future, because what Keim has put us in right now is he’s trying to field a competitive team that isn’t close enough to the playoffs because of its holes & play it safe instead of looking 2 years down the road.

He could change my mind if he went all out for a top QB prospect but He’s got to pick a side. Improve the Oline & WRs thru the draft or trade away multiple picks for that QB. It’s time to add that QB for 10-15 years imo.

We don’t have cap $$$ to improve our Oline now to protect Bradford enough which imo is why we shouldn’t have signed him.

Ding ding ding!

I can't agree with trading away the picks it will take to move up in this draft. Maybe it wouldn't be as daunting as I assume but IMO, it would be drafting a QB just for the sake of drafting a QB. Most of these guys don't grade out particularly well as prospects so as risky as it usually is to draft a QB, it's even more so in this draft for the Cardinals when you consider the draft capitol involved.

After going for the top two FA's with some serious money, I don't think the Cardinals are too intrigued by this year's crop of QB's. But, it doesn't take a 5 year plan to go from mediocre to playoffs so I think they are playing for 2018 right now. The Vikings showed you can lose your QB and RB and still compete with solid vets so there's no reason to believe the Cardinals couldn't do the same. You don't have to spend the most money you just have to get the right pieces and this new regime deserves at least a little while to show whether or not they know what they're doing.

McVay and the Rams showed me just how valuable player evaluation and coaching is. Picking up Whitworth and a LOT better scheme made a huge difference in just one offseason. Who though Robert Woods and Kupp at the WR positions would lead to the #1 offense? It doesn't have to be all about drafting a QB in the first round. Now, before you say that's what they did with Goff, I think just about ANY QB would have done what he did last year if put in the same spot. What McVay did was that good IMO.

 

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[NJCardFan]

Here’s an argument I’d like someone to make:

How does Glennon keep getting jobs yet Kaepernick can’t even get a tryout? Are people really going to argue that Glennon is better?

Oh I dunno. Perhaps his psycho girlfriend said that NFL owners are akin to slave masters and he essentially agreed with her maybe?

 

[WisconsinCard]

Well we all needed a good laugh from one of the most laughable terrible days in Cardinals history. Lol & there have been some doozies.

I’m dead serious this is such a bad day it’s like a bad dream & it can’t be explained any other way. A immobile, injury plagued QB behind an Oline that can’t protect anyone, limited cap space to fix that Oline & a turkey necked John Skelton whom half his passes might hit the Coors light vendor in section 302 lol

Come on Mike you were pimping this guy a year or so ago, you wanted us to trade for him. Now we get him and you don't want to give him a chance? Lets see how this pans out, I don't see a down side to this signing, hell we haven't even seen the details yet.

 

[Buckybird]

Come on Mike you were pimping this guy a year or so ago, you wanted us to trade for him. Now we get him and you don't want to give him a chance? Lets see how this pans out, I don't see a down side to this signing, hell we haven't even seen the details yet.

As the 3rd option to Jimmy G & McCarron & yet we signed Gabbert lol

And then he stunk like a skunk on a hot summers day in Chicago lol

 

[THESMEL]

Good job Keim - bradford and Glennon is very good competition for the buck, only take a rookie that is worth the draft position - I’m very happy -

 

[Vacard]

Here’s an argument I’d like someone to make:

How does Glennon keep getting jobs yet Kaepernick can’t even get a tryout? Are people really going to argue that Glennon is better?

If Kaepernick wasn’t blackballed by league, we would’ve signed him a loooong time ago. He’s head and shoulders above Stanton/Gabbert/Glennon barnone

 

[iLLmatiC]

As the 3rd option to Jimmy G & McCarron & yet we signed Gabbert lol

And then he stunk like a skunk on a hot summers day in Chicago lol

I'm sure he sucks, but it's Chicago.

 

[daves]

Well it can't get much worse. Glennon is no better than Stanton.

This is just objectively miles from the truth.

I don't know whether people have some bizarrely inflated opinion of Stanton, or recency bias against Glennon based on how poorly he played for the Bears, but the numbers don't lie (and even if you think they don't tell the whole story... they're not even close).

Glennon has a career 83 passer rating (770 attempts) with 34 TDs and 20 INTs. In his awful season with the Bears last year, he still had a 77 rating with 4 TDs and 5 INTs. Those are better than average backup numbers.

Stanton has an appalling career rating of 66, with 20 TDs and 24 INTs on 659 attempts. The best stretch of his career, when he managed to go 5-3 with the Cardinals, he had a 79 rating, on par with Glennon's "abysmal" season with the Bears. The four seasons before that one, his rating averaged 63, and the three seasons after, he averaged a truly putrid 56.

Stanton is really, really bad. Glennon is fine as a backup - certainly nothing to get excited about, nor to be distraught about.

...dbs

 

[daves]

JUST SAY NO!!!!

Bridgewater, Bradford, Foles...anyone but Gannon

Good news - Gannon plans to stay retired.

...dave

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Well we all needed a good laugh from one of the most laughable terrible days in Cardinals history. Lol & there have been some doozies.

I’m dead serious this is such a bad day it’s like a bad dream & it can’t be explained any other way. A immobile, injury plagued QB behind an Oline that can’t protect anyone, limited cap space to fix that Oline & a turkey necked John Skelton whom half his passes might hit the Coors light vendor in section 302 lol

This rivals the day Graves let Dansby, Rolle, and Boldin all leave on the same day.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Free agency isn't even officially started and people already hate their favorite teams for not signing anyone they want like it's Madden

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Wrong. I hate the fact they signed Bradford and Glennon.

I like how people are picking Glennon's one small run and Bradford's one good year, while disregarding the vast majority of their career's stinking, as reasons of hope and a basis for these being good moves.

 

[juza76]

Wrong. I hate the fact they signed Bradford and Glennon.

I like how people are picking Glennon's one small run and Bradford's one good year, while disregarding the vast majority of their career's stinking, as reasons of hope and a basis for these being good moves.

Probably yes
But in which environment they played?what supporting cast they had with them
Bradford had good numbers with rams even when others failed, the only issues is about his knee
Glennon in a below average team showed enough to be considered a good back up
After being benched Trabusky stats were poor too in chicago

 

[Gandhi]

This has pretty much torpedoed any chance we had of drafting a top QBOF, and I am super pissed at Keim for it.

How do you figure that, Stout? In my opinion, you would be very hard pressed to send a more clear signal that you intent to draft a quarterback.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Have to hope he is signed to a $ friendly deal and that the FO didn't give him a long contract.

 

[Stout]

I really don't get why you're so sure of this.

Because 3rd-string QBs aren't getting any development at all during the season. They're scout/practice squad QBs. The structure and timing of practice is such that you CAN'T develop them.