Mike "I wanne be here" James

[JCSunsfan]

After Steve Nash, will Phoenix Suns fans ever love another pg?

 

[JCSunsfan]

I wouldn't say it's a no brainer. I would trade one of the 3 centers for a PG, any PG, to replace James.

Not any pg. There are worse. There really are.

I cannot see any that we could really trade for except maybe George Hill or Beverly.

 

[BC867]

After Steve Nash, will Phoenix Suns fans ever love another pg?

Love, just as hate, are extreme words. Most things fall in the middle. A big middle.

I would really enjoy having a starting calibre and a backup Point Guard to play consistent, basic basketball and, more than anything, make the rest of the team better. Especially on the youngest team in the NBA. A facilitator who can score, but is not the first scoring option.

For the first time since the short tenure of Barkley, and with Booker at Shooting Guard, my hope is for a potential superstar in the front court. And a roster with balanced offense and defense.

When I read your post, I thought of Bette Midler's line in The Rose. "I just love to be in love. Don't you love to be in love?" I'd love it if the Suns could put together a functional roster.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Love, just as hate, are extreme words. Most things fall in the middle. A big middle.

I would really enjoy having a starting calibre and a backup Point Guard to play consistent, basic basketball and, more than anything, make the rest of the team better. Especially on the youngest team in the NBA. A facilitator who can score, but is not the first scoring option.

For the first time since the short tenure of Barkley, and with Booker at Shooting Guard, my hope is for a potential superstar in the front court. And a roster with balanced offense and defense.

When I read your post, I thought of Bette Midler's line in The Rose. "I just love to be in love. Don't you love to be in love?" I'd love it if the Suns could put together a functional roster.

OK BC. Which pg do you want? What trade are you going to put together to get him?

Go ahead. Play GM for a moment. But don't tell me the YPEof player you want. Tell me THE player you want to get and how you are going to get him.

 

[Mainstreet]

After Steve Nash, will Phoenix Suns fans ever love another pg?

Suns fans loved Kevin Johnson so I don't see a reason why they can't fully embrace another PG.

Nash was not adored when the Suns traded him to the Mavericks. He only became a fan favorite when he was signed by the Suns as a free agent.

Nash and DA were magic together along with Amare, Marion and Joe Johnson.

 

[BC867]

OK BC. Which pg do you want? What trade are you going to put together to get him?

Go ahead. Play GM for a moment. But don't tell me the TYPE of player you want. Tell me THE player you want to get and how you are going to get him.

That's the point, JC. I don't spend my days analyzing every player in the NBA. Why would you look to me to choose a PG? It is not my responsibility. Nor am I getting paid for it.

But it sure as hell is the responsibility of the General Manager. Our messes at the Point Guard position now and in past years are his doing. And we, as fans, supporting the team in our hearts and on TV and in person, have a right to expect professionalism.

I follow sports as a relief from everyday pressures. And, yes, I expect my hometown team to give us a break from stress, not add to it. I am surprised that you would ask me or any other Suns fan whom to choose and how to get him instead of expecting the GM to have already put a plan together.

Our Center tandem is unsettled. Our Point Guard tandem is weak by NBA standards. We have too many young, inexperienced players and not enough veterans in the middle of their career. Our defense sucks.

As a fan, I wanted to see Bledsoe gone. But, did it ever occur to the owner and GM that when he was benched last season, but kept around, that it would wind up biting them in the butt? The way it was handled was pure stupidity. As a former member of upper middle management, I have that insight. If you are going to demote somebody, you do it by moving them.

But if you are looking at me, or any other fan, to come up with a program in my spare time, what does that say about the ineptitude of Suns management?

Why don't you drop a note to McDonough and ask him, "Tell me the player(s) you want to get at Point Guard." and "How are you going to get him?"

It actually shows us the lack of confidence that you (and many of us) have in Suns management. But then, so do their results.

I stated in my last post what I feel that we, as fans, need. It is up to the executives getting paid millions or hundreds of thousands of dollars to do the same and be cognizant of who can fulfill it and what is necessary to make it happen.

They are the ones you should be expecting decisions from. Expecting a fan to provide the answers is absolving them of their responsibilities.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

That's the point, JC. I don't spend my days analyzing every player in the NBA. Why would you look to me to choose a PG? It is not my responsibility. Nor am I getting paid for it.

But it sure as hell is the responsibility of the General Manager. Our messes at the Point Guard position now and in past years are his doing. And we, as fans, supporting the team in our hearts and on TV and in person, have a right to expect professionalism.

I follow sports as a relief from everyday pressures. And, yes, I expect my hometown team to give us a break from stress, not add to it. I am surprised that you would ask me or any other Suns fan whom to choose and how to get him instead of expecting the GM to have already put a plan together.

Our Center tandem is unsettled. Our Point Guard tandem is weak by NBA standards. We have too many young, inexperienced players and not enough veterans in the middle of their career. Our defense sucks.

As a fan, I wanted to see Bledsoe gone. But, did it ever occur to the owner and GM that when he was benched last season, but kept around, that it would wind up biting them in the butt? The way it was handled was pure stupidity. As a former member of upper middle management, I have that insight. If you are going to demote somebody, you do it by moving them.

But if you are looking at me, or any other fan, to come up with a program in my spare time, what does that say about the ineptitude of Suns management?

Why don't you drop a note to McDonough and ask him, "Tell me the player(s) you want to get at Point Guard." and "How are you going to get him?"

It actually shows us the lack of confidence that you (and many of us) have in Suns management. But then, so do their results.

I stated in my last post what I feel that we, as fans, need. It is up to the executives getting paid millions or hundreds of thousands of dollars to do the same and be cognizant of who can fulfill it and what is necessary to make it happen.

They are the ones you should be expecting decisions from. Expecting a fan to provide the answers is absolving them of their responsibilities.

I don’t disagree with your general premise. But then I expect you to not criticize others who are offering potential solutions (like tanking for specific players who are projected to help in need areas) if you are unwilling to offer an alternative solution.

 

[JCSunsfan]

That's the point, JC. I don't spend my days analyzing every player in the NBA. Why would you look to me to choose a PG? It is not my responsibility. Nor am I getting paid for it.

But it sure as hell is the responsibility of the General Manager. Our messes at the Point Guard position now and in past years are his doing. And we, as fans, supporting the team in our hearts and on TV and in person, have a right to expect professionalism.

I follow sports as a relief from everyday pressures. And, yes, I expect my hometown team to give us a break from stress, not add to it. I am surprised that you would ask me or any other Suns fan whom to choose and how to get him instead of expecting the GM to have already put a plan together.

Our Center tandem is unsettled. Our Point Guard tandem is weak by NBA standards. We have too many young, inexperienced players and not enough veterans in the middle of their career. Our defense sucks.

As a fan, I wanted to see Bledsoe gone. But, did it ever occur to the owner and GM that when he was benched last season, but kept around, that it would wind up biting them in the butt? The way it was handled was pure stupidity. As a former member of upper middle management, I have that insight. If you are going to demote somebody, you do it by moving them.

But if you are looking at me, or any other fan, to come up with a program in my spare time, what does that say about the ineptitude of Suns management?

Why don't you drop a note to McDonough and ask him, "Tell me the player(s) you want to get at Point Guard." and "How are you going to get him?"

It actually shows us the lack of confidence that you (and many of us) have in Suns management. But then, so do their results.

I stated in my last post what I feel that we, as fans, need. It is up to the executives getting paid millions or hundreds of thousands of dollars to do the same and be cognizant of who can fulfill it and what is necessary to make it happen.

They are the ones you should be expecting decisions from. Expecting a fan to provide the answers is absolving them of their responsibilities.

Just what I thought. Lots of criticism. No answers. Not even one suggestion.

You can't just pull starting pg's out of a hat. Take a short look around the league. The only pg's attainable are worse than the ones we have.

 

[elindholm]

Just what I thought. Lots of criticism. No answers. Not even one suggestion.

You can't just pull starting pg's out of a hat. Take a short look around the league. The only pg's attainable are worse than the ones we have.

Malcolm Brogdon is probably available, or will be soon. His numbers have gone into the toilet since Bledsoe joined the team, and the Bucks are committed to Bledsoe now. I'm a little surprised that the Suns didn't ask for Brogdon in the first place, since they seem squishy in their interest in Monroe.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Malcolm Brogdon is probably available, or will be soon. His numbers have gone into the toilet since Bledsoe joined the team, and the Bucks are committed to Bledsoe now. I'm a little surprised that the Suns didn't ask for Brogdon in the first place, since they seem squishy in their interest in Monroe.

Brogdon would be a great choice. I had just given up on that idea because the Suns did ask for Brogdon, and held out trying to get the Bucks to let loose of him. I have no doubt they would have preferred Brogdon to Monroe although Monroe had to be part of the package to make the salaries work.

https://247sports.com/nba/cleveland...de-Malcolm-Brogdon-for-Eric-Bledsoe-109505331

http://www.slamonline.com/nba/bucks...olm-brogdon-eric-bledsoe/#hpIEAZSFgrYJwpAX.97

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/10/26...ng-matthew-dellavedova-in-eric-bledsoe-trade/

 

[elindholm]

Brogdon would be a great choice. I had just given up on that idea because the Suns did ask for Brogdon, and held out trying to get the Bucks to let loose of him.

Hmm, okay, well it's too bad that McDonough shot himself in the foot with Bledsoe then. Nonetheless, the Bucks might change their mind if Brogdon continues to struggle. If we get to the trade deadline and the Bucks are in the range where their pick conveys immediately, that could open a whole new conversation.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Hmm, okay, well it's too bad that McDonough shot himself in the foot with Bledsoe then. Nonetheless, the Bucks might change their mind if Brogdon continues to struggle. If we get to the trade deadline and the Bucks are in the range where their pick conveys immediately, that could open a whole new conversation.

That would be great. Brogdon might be the perfect pg for this team. He is big, a decent distributor, good defender, and an efficient shooter, but not a primary scorer. He is a possible long term answer.

My big concern is that they might get to the deadline and be fed up with Bledsoe by then and be back to Brogdon.

 

[Hoop Head]

I would gladly give the Bucks their pick back for Brogdon. Not sure I'd part with much else.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I would gladly give the Bucks their pick back for Brogdon. Not sure I'd part with much else.

They need shooters. Troy Daniels. They probably want us to take back Delly.

 

[SweetD]

I had two issues with Brogdon, 1- Age 2-Shot contract

I would rather see a pick used next year to get a younger pg and player under long term rookie deal with our other key players coming off thier rookie deal.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I had two issues with Brogdon, 1- Age 2-Shot contract

I would rather see a pick used next year to get a younger pg and player under long term rookie deal with our other key players coming off thier rookie deal.

Brogdon is 24. What's wrong with his age? Is he too young? He can't be too old.

Teams are so infatuated with young players they miss older players. Kuzma and Draymond Green are cases in point. 22 year old rookie. Old washed up I guess.

 

[Hoop Head]

That's the point, JC. I don't spend my days analyzing every player in the NBA. Why would you look to me to choose a PG? It is not my responsibility. Nor am I getting paid for it.

But it sure as hell is the responsibility of the General Manager. Our messes at the Point Guard position now and in past years are his doing. And we, as fans, supporting the team in our hearts and on TV and in person, have a right to expect professionalism.

I follow sports as a relief from everyday pressures. And, yes, I expect my hometown team to give us a break from stress, not add to it. I am surprised that you would ask me or any other Suns fan whom to choose and how to get him instead of expecting the GM to have already put a plan together.

Our Center tandem is unsettled. Our Point Guard tandem is weak by NBA standards. We have too many young, inexperienced players and not enough veterans in the middle of their career. Our defense sucks.

As a fan, I wanted to see Bledsoe gone. But, did it ever occur to the owner and GM that when he was benched last season, but kept around, that it would wind up biting them in the butt? The way it was handled was pure stupidity. As a former member of upper middle management, I have that insight. If you are going to demote somebody, you do it by moving them.

But if you are looking at me, or any other fan, to come up with a program in my spare time, what does that say about the ineptitude of Suns management?

Why don't you drop a note to McDonough and ask him, "Tell me the player(s) you want to get at Point Guard." and "How are you going to get him?"

It actually shows us the lack of confidence that you (and many of us) have in Suns management. But then, so do their results.

I stated in my last post what I feel that we, as fans, need. It is up to the executives getting paid millions or hundreds of thousands of dollars to do the same and be cognizant of who can fulfill it and what is necessary to make it happen.

They are the ones you should be expecting decisions from. Expecting a fan to provide the answers is absolving them of their responsibilities.

I get your POV for the most part but you take the Suns too seriously to say they're an escape or relief from everyday issues which means you should be watching for entertainment value. If that were the case you'd be content with watching fun games but you've bashed the organization for never winning a title more than most posters. So you do take it seriously and view it as more than just an escape.

I know it's the front office's job to find players that will help the team but you've talked about how the Suns need a pass first PG and legit Center many times but not offer any suggestions. I'm not asking you to propose trades but simply tell us if there are any players in the league right now that would help the Suns at those positions outside of the top players like Westbrook, Curry, Harden, Cousins, Davis, or Karl-Anthony Towns. If there are, who are they? Naming players that could help the Suns is something every fan does, or should be able to do. That doesn't take time pouring over the rosters of every team, comparing salaries, and trying to figure out trades. Who in the NBA would help the Suns at PG and Center that aren't All-NBA players?

 

[Hoop Head]

They need shooters. Troy Daniels. They probably want us to take back Delly.

If Reed were healthy I'd send Daniels and their pick back to them for Brogdan. Like you said, they'd probably want to shed salary though and I'm not interested in what they have to offer there except maybe Henson if they took back Chandler, Chandler's deal is shorter than Henson's but I doubt that would be enough cap relief.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If Reed were healthy I'd send Daniels and their pick back to them for Brogdan. Like you said, they'd probably want to shed salary though and I'm not interested in what they have to offer there except maybe Henson if they took back Chandler, Chandler's deal is shorter than Henson's but I doubt that would enough.

They have a lot of bad contracts. Yikes. I am sure they would like to shed Delly, Telly, and Henson. Telly has only two years, so that would be doable. But Delly is getting 9 mil a year for three more. That does not work.

 

[Finito]

Suns fans never really embraced Jason Kidd or Marbury the way they did KJ and Nash.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Suns fans never really embraced Jason Kidd or Marbury the way they did KJ and Nash.

Neither were as likable as KJ and Nash and neither were as successful as them either.

 

[SirStefan32]

Dragic was pretty popular, especially after he came back. Limited success and all. I think fans like players who are likable. Neither Kidd nor Marbury was particularly likable.

 

[Hoop Head]

Marbury was more likable than Kidd and became a huge star in China but he was cocky here in Phoenix while never doing anything to back it up. He was humbled a bit by being traded by the Suns for nothing but cap relief and not being able to carry New York anywhere, which was his hometown team. The Marbury who went onto to be a huge star in China didn't have the same ego he did here in Phoenix or in New York.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Marbury was more likable than Kidd and became a huge star in China but he was cocky here in Phoenix while never doing anything to back it up. He was humbled a bit by being traded by the Suns for nothing but cap relief and not being able to carry New York anywhere, which was his hometown team. The Marbury who went onto to be a huge star in China didn't have the same ego he did here in Phoenix or in New York.

...nor the competition.

 

[Ronin]

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Don't expect resolution of Mike James' contract until Wednesday deadline.