Miller once again does it again!

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This is also interesting - ESPN seems to be doubling down on standing by their original story:

https://deadspin.com/espn-retracts-correction-in-sean-miller-wiretap-story-1823440125

Hard to tell what's what at this point. ESPN clearly seemed to have made errors in their reporting, but still insistent on the basic correctness of it. And MIller and the U of Arizona have been very hinkey in how they have gone about denying it, leaving themselves a lot of wiggle room in case something else comes out.
 

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https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2018/03/01/arizona-sean-miller-deandre-ayton-espn-report

Will Sean Miller or Deandre Ayton sue ESPN for defamation after Arizona circled the wagons in support of its basketball coach? Confirmation from a source that previous reports about the program's involvement were not accurate has left that possibility open.

I think Miller would have a hard time doing so because he's a public employee, though ESPN and the Star need to be held responsible in one way, shape, or form
 

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This is also interesting - ESPN seems to be doubling down on standing by their original story:

https://deadspin.com/espn-retracts-correction-in-sean-miller-wiretap-story-1823440125

Hard to tell what's what at this point. ESPN clearly seemed to have made errors in their reporting, but still insistent on the basic correctness of it. And MIller and the U of Arizona have been very hinkey in how they have gone about denying it, leaving themselves a lot of wiggle room in case something else comes out.

If they retract or apologize the REALLY open the door to litigation. They won't do so until they absolutely have to. Mark Schlabalabalabach going dark through all this is enough of an admission they're not sure of their story/source as well as no followup to the original story. It could get ugly for ESPN.
 

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Miller is most certainly acting like the tape doesn't exist or will never come out. ESPN better have something or they will have completely destroyed whatever credibility they have left.

Both sides are entrenched here, Miller denies it and Arizona doesn't fire him just redoes his contract to make the buyout less onerous.

ESPN doubles down in their story on Miller NOT being fired and said again they stand by the original story.

Really interesting to watch
 

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Both sides are entrenched here, Miller denies it and Arizona doesn't fire him just redoes his contract to make the buyout less onerous.

ESPN doubles down in their story on Miller NOT being fired and said again they stand by the original story.

Really interesting to watch


Huh? ESPN isn't even standing by their original story. It's been changed 4 times now.
 

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Listen IMO.... ASU over UA but, ASU has pooped the bed this year.

I like UA basketball.

I like the PAC12

I think Miller is a good coach. Don’t mess with my state, my conference my teams. It’s like family. We fight amongst ourselves but I’ll be damned if I’m going to stand by while you trash my brother.

To hell with trash ass ESPN (some not all)
 

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Schlabach just now: “Based on my conversations this weekend, I have no reason to believe anything in that story is inaccurate. The telephone conversation recorded by wiretaps remains under federal seal. If and when that seal is removed, we’ll find out.”

Then why change the timeline of your story 3 times AND change it from naming Ayton to just unnamed 5* recruit? How can he be that intellectually dishonest? Doing whatever they can to cover their butts, stall, and hope more comes to light they can run with.
 

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Huh? ESPN isn't even standing by their original story. It's been changed 4 times now.


I know what you mean, but you know what I mean too, they have not said their original story is wrong, that the FBI has Miller on a wiretap.

I also don't agree that Schlabach going silent proves there's some doubt on his story, if ESPN doubted him they wouldn't keep saying we stand by the story.

He's probably quiet because of the story that came out yesterday that Congress is getting involved in the FBI story, and that Feds are VERY upset at the leaks that led to the Yahoo and ESPN stories and want to know who's leaking. The odds are whoever gave him his story(true or not) was contacted by the FBI and in turn told Schlabach to stop commenting.
 
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Schlabach just now: “Based on my conversations this weekend, I have no reason to believe anything in that story is inaccurate. The telephone conversation recorded by wiretaps remains under federal seal. If and when that seal is removed, we’ll find out.”

Then why change the timeline of your story 3 times AND change it from naming Ayton to just unnamed 5* recruit? How can he be that intellectually dishonest? Doing whatever they can to cover their butts, stall, and hope more comes to light they can run with.
Which version? 4.0?
 

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Which version? 4.0?

Exactly. Miller COULD be guilty as sin on many fronts, I dunno, and as a fan would kinda rather not know. However, that doesn't excuse ESPN. Irresponsible 'journalism' at best, malicious at worst. We'll see.
 

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Schlabach just now: “Based on my conversations this weekend, I have no reason to believe anything in that story is inaccurate. The telephone conversation recorded by wiretaps remains under federal seal. If and when that seal is removed, we’ll find out.”

Then why change the timeline of your story 3 times AND change it from naming Ayton to just unnamed 5* recruit? How can he be that intellectually dishonest? Doing whatever they can to cover their butts, stall, and hope more comes to light they can run with.


1 minute ago I went to the ESPN site and found the story, dated 2/25, that clear as day says the player involved is DeAndre Ayton. His name is mentioned repeatedly in the story. It has additional stuff added at the end about Rovell's take on the contract, which has been rebutted by Arizona media, and yet was apparently revised today when they decided NOT to fire Miller.

They did change the timeline, as mentioned above, they've now changed it back to 2017, they did not change from Ayton to unnamed 5 star recruit. That came from one of those crawls at the bottom of the screen.

Forgot to add if you read the story now the title says to "lock in" Ayton at Arizona, which could mean they're now claiming Miller talked to Ayton because they were afraid he was going to leave like Ferguson did.
 

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Miller: "I never knowingly violate NCAA rules while serving as head coach of the Arizona Wildcats."

“I have never knowingly violated NCAA rules while serving as head coach of this great program.”

That one word seems like set-up for some BS rationalization coming down the road when he ultimately gets nailed, IMO.
 

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Miller: "I never knowingly violate NCAA rules while serving as head coach of the Arizona Wildcats."

“I have never knowingly violated NCAA rules while serving as head coach of this great program.”

That one word seems like set-up for some BS rationalization coming down the road when he ultimately gets nailed, IMO.
At least he didn't say "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is.
 
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I think Miller would have a hard time doing so because he's a public employee, though ESPN and the Star need to be held responsible in one way, shape, or form
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2018/03/01/arizona-sean-miller-deandre-ayton-espn-report

Will Sean Miller or Deandre Ayton sue ESPN for defamation after Arizona circled the wagons in support of its basketball coach? Confirmation from a source that previous reports about the program's involvement were not accurate has left that possibility open.

Bilas was on Gambo and Ash this afternoon and basically said unless Ayton / Miller can prove ESPN and that reporter acted maliciously in an attempt to harm or slander them then they really don't stand a chance of willing a lawsuit.

Bilas still standing by the ESPN reporter's story even when Gambo asked him that is Miller is on a wiretap discussing payment, why wasn't he arrested with Book? Bilas has no answer for that.

I'll be happy when the truth finally comes out so that this huge mess ends, my only hope that if UA is guilty then they do not get hammered alone, hopefully everyone gets outed so that the punishment isn't as severe.
 

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Bilas was on Gambo and Ash this afternoon and basically said unless Ayton / Miller can prove ESPN and that reporter acted maliciously in an attempt to harm or slander them then they really don't stand a chance of willing a lawsuit.

Bilas still standing by the ESPN reporter's story even when Gambo asked him that is Miller is on a wiretap discussing payment, why wasn't he arrested with Book? Bilas has no answer for that.

I'll be happy when the truth finally comes out so that this huge mess ends, my only hope that if UA is guilty then they do not get hammered alone, hopefully everyone gets outed so that the punishment isn't as severe.

Bilas has completely embarrassed himself lately. I used to like him because he was rational but everyone at ESPN is forced to back ESPN reports. The hilarious part is if this was a Yahoo report he’d put his lawyer hat back on and be backing Miller.
 

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