Mocks for Suns

[jlove]

THIS POST WILL BE UPDATED AS MOCKS ARE UPDATED (As of 29 May 08 @ 1614 PST)

http://www.dcprosportsreport.com/NBAMocks.htm

There are 42 Updated Post Lottery Mock Drafts and this is who they are predicting.

#15
X 6 ----- Donte Greene
X 5 ----- JaVale McGee
X 4 ----- Nicolas Batum
X 4 ----- Chase Budinger
X 3 ----- Roy Hibbert
X 3 ----- Joe Alexander
X 3 ----- DeAndre Jordan
X 3 ----- Brandon Rush
X 3 ----- Chris Douglas-Roberts
X 3 ----- Kosta Koufos
X 2 ----- Darrell Arthur
X 1 ----- Russell Westbrook
X 1 ----- Kevin Love
X 1 ----- DJ Augustin



#49
X 1 ----- Pat Calathes
X 1 ----- JR Giddens
X 1 ----- Jamont Gordan
X 1 ----- Keith Brumbaugh
X 1 ----- Kyle Weaver
X 1 ----- Lester Hudson
X 1 ----- Richard Roby

 

[scXfreakX]

I don't think we'll get McGee. I think he'll be gone before the 15th pick. But I'd like Westbrook, CDR, Arthur, or Budinger.

 

[Bufalay]

As of 21 May 08: http://www.dcprosportsreport.com/NBAMocks.htm

There are 22 Updated Post Lottery Mock Drafts and this is who they are predicting.

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[jlove]

As of 21 May 08: http://www.dcprosportsreport.com/NBAMocks.htm

There are 22 Updated Post Lottery Mock Drafts and this is who they are predicting.

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What were you trying to do?

 

[arwillan]

What were you trying to do?

i think he's saying we're going to sell our pick for cash

 

[Chaplin]

I don't think we'll get McGee. I think he'll be gone before the 15th pick. But I'd like Westbrook, CDR, Arthur, or Budinger.

Why in the name of God would anyone actually want Chase Budinger? If he's available at #49, then yes, grab him. But not at 15.

 

[Bufalay]

Why in the name of God would anyone actually want Chase Budinger? If he's available at #49, then yes, grab him. But not at 15.

Because the Suns are run by two idiotic wildcats

 

[PhxGametime]

Darrell Arthur PF Kansas
Donte Greene F Syracuse
Russell Westbrook G UCLA
Chase Budinger SG Arizona/Nicolas Batum G/F France*
Robin Lopez F/C Stanford
Davon Jefferson F USC


I REALLY haven't seen Batum and Randolph... Randolph likely won't be there anyways but could be on list if he drops, not sure where to rank em though. Jefferson maybe a reach but will probably test well at combine...

 

[Irish]

As of 21 May 08: http://www.dcprosportsreport.com/NBAMocks.htm

There are 22 Updated Post Lottery Mock Drafts and this is who they are predicting.

#15
X 4 ----- JaVale McGee
X 3 ----- Kosta Koufos
X 3 ----- Chris Douglas-Roberts
X 3 ----- Donte Greene
X 2 ----- Chase Budinger
X 2 ----- Darrell Arthur
X 1 ----- Roy Hibbert
X 1 ----- Russell Westbrook
X 1 ----- Joe Alexander
X 1 ----- Nicolas Batum
X 1 ----- Brandon Rush

Draft express has McGee at #20 and nbadraft.net has him at #15. He's tall, althletic, and a good ball handler; so he might be a fit. It is not clear he's a classic center (physical low post with back to basket skills) More important his season created lots of question marks;http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/JaVale-McGee-1197/

The problem is he’s extremely far from reaching his full potential—so far that you have to wonder if he’ll ever make it considering the way he looks at times on the court. Struggles to establish position and finish in the paint, settles for some incredibly awkward off-balance shots, and is virtually a black hole with his passing skills—averaging 4 turnovers for every 1 assist. Looks very disinterested at times, doesn’t hustle, gives up on plays, late getting back down the floor, and might be the worst man to man defender we’ve ever evaluated in the post. Gets pushed around, gambles excessively for steals, has no stance or fundamentals, doesn’t move his feet, and is a complete non-factor even against the mediocre competition he faces. According to Synergy’s “PlayType QuickTable stats,” McGee was scored on 66% of the time when being posted up in the paint (against the likes of Fresno State, Utah State, Houston, etc). Is light years away from being able to compete on an NBA level defensively, if ever.

Other reviews are more promising, but his lack of polish and poor defense makes me less that enthusiastic.

BTW, Koufos is one of the oddest players under consideration. His skill level is pretty high and he's big; but I'm not sure he's athletic enough or strong enough. Orlando will be a very big deal for him.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Why in the name of God would anyone actually want Chase Budinger? If he's available at #49, then yes, grab him. But not at 15.

Thank you...I wouldn't think it to be possible for us to get worse defensively, but this would definitely do it.

 

[Chaplin]

Because the Suns are run by two idiotic wildcats

Sigh. There is NO evidence whatsoever that this phantom bias you keep bringing up actually exists.

 

[Bufalay]

Sigh. There is NO evidence whatsoever that this phantom bias you keep bringing up actually exists.

keep bringing up? I have stated my dislike for wildcats several times. But the bias is a new twist that I am predicting.

 

[Irish]

keep bringing up? I have stated my dislike for wildcats several times. But the bias is a new twist that I am predicting.

Based on what? Let's face it, there are lots of things the Suns FO have done that I don't like, but I have never seen anything that suggested that those moves had anything to do with U of A: zero, nothing, nada, zip, zilch...

 

[jlove]

Draft express has McGee at #20 and nbadraft.net has him at #15. He's tall, althletic, and a good ball handler; so he might be a fit. It is not clear he's a classic center (physical low post with back to basket skills) More important his season created lots of question marks;http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/JaVale-McGee-1197/



Other reviews are more promising, but his lack of polish and poor defense makes me less that enthusiastic.

BTW, Koufos is one of the oddest players under consideration. His skill level is pretty high and he's big; but I'm not sure he's athletic enough or strong enough. Orlando will be a very big deal for him.

McGee is not a good on ball post defender right now because of his lack of UPPER body strength. He is a great help defender and has great speed, rebounding, and shot blocking ability. I can see him used as a 3-4-5 in the pros. He has range on his shot, although a bit slow with his set shot (ala Camby, but a little quicker). I think he's a project to a point, but if the Suns bring in Silas as the Big Mans coach, he could work wonders with McGee and Amare for the future. Remember that Amare had close to the same problems in the post that McGee has right now. Put McGee in the weight room to work his upper body and he'll become a monster alongside Amare. Like I've said (don't remember if it was on this forum or not), but McGee reminds me of a combo of Amare/Camby/Rasheed Wallace/Duncan. Comparable to Amare for his speed, athleticism, and his raw determination and wanting to posterize someone (when Amare first came in). Reminds me of Camby because of his ability on the weakside defender, his rebounding, and his semi-slow set shot. Reminds me of Rasheed Wallace because of his shooting range (at a high % too), and his turn around jump shot. Reminds me of Duncan because of his ability to use the glass VERY well on his shots, and his knack for using both hands on baby hook shots. He's very fundamentally sound with his footwork and his shooting percentage. He has his down points too, don't get me wrong. He is not a good on ball defender due to his lack of upper body strength, but has great lower body strength (ala Yao Ming when he first came to the NBA). He is pretty raw and plays with passion (ala Amare) but can get frustrated easy too (ala Barbosa). I feel he would be great with Amare and Shaq to help guide him (especially if the Suns bring in Silas to help tutor).

 

[joshstmarie]

Why in the name of God would anyone actually want Chase Budinger? If he's available at #49, then yes, grab him. But not at 15.

amen!

my observation of budinger SO FAR.

a lesser version of keith van horn with barbosas head-case-ism.

oh and he can jump higher.

 

[Matt L]

I saw one draft with the weaker Lopez twin going in the late teens. Does anyone think he could put on weight and play the 5 effectively in the NBA. I would like to see a center picked up for the future when Shaq goes down so we don't have to move Amare back to the 5.

Oh yeah, I hope that Terry Porter becomes the coach too.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Sigh. There is NO evidence whatsoever that this phantom bias you keep bringing up actually exists.

Actually, last summer camp Kerr had his cronies hold down one of the assistant trainers who was wearing an ASU shirt to practice and cut it off of him with scissors.

SCISSORS!

 

[Chaplin]

Actually, last summer camp Kerr had his cronies hold down one of the assistant trainers who was wearing an ASU shirt to practice and cut it off of him with scissors.

SCISSORS!

What's your point? Was that a hiring decision or a joke? Seems to me to be a joke. Nobody's saying the aren't proud of their alma mater, it's just an entirely different thing to say that they're making decisions based on it. Come on now.

 

[jlove]

Actually, last summer camp Kerr had his cronies hold down one of the assistant trainers who was wearing an ASU shirt to practice and cut it off of him with scissors.

SCISSORS!

That was a bet on the teams. ASU lost to UofA, and the trainer wore his ASU shirt in protest of ASU losing and Kerr called him on it and cut the shirt off.

 

[devilalum]

I would think the bias would be the other way around.

If you draft a player from your college he better be awesome or you'll end up looking like an idiot.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Im just playin geez


Im warming up to the idea of donte green if he is there at 15. Gonna wait to make an opinion on McGee until draft camp. I think I would also enjoy seeing Ty Lawson in purple and orange.

 

[Covert Rain]

I would think the bias would be the other way around.

If you draft a player from your college he better be awesome or you'll end up looking like an idiot.

I would agree. Your margin of error is much smaller should that player suck. You draft any other player and you probably chalk it up to just a bad decision. You draft a U of A player and he sucks your going to get crucified for letting bias cloud your judgment.

 

[Irish]

I saw one draft with the weaker Lopez twin going in the late teens. Does anyone think he could put on weight and play the 5 effectively in the NBA.

The consensus seems to be that he's not nearly as talented as his brother and would be a career backup. Draft Express has him at #25.

Other bigs that are rated ahead of Robin are:

DeAndre Jordan
Donte Greene
Kosta Koufos
Darrell Arthur
JaVale McGee
Marreese Speights
Alexis Ajinca

 

[The Commish]

A guy that I'm keeping an eye on is Nicholas Batum - he shot up the boards last year and then decided to withdraw. He had a decent but not great year and is suddenly being overlooked. I think he would be a solid addition to this club if he's available. The downside: he's French.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

A guy that I'm keeping an eye on is Nicholas Batum - he shot up the boards last year and then decided to withdraw. He had a decent year but not great year and is suddenly being overlooked. I think he would be a solid addition to this club if he's available. The downside: he's French.

ah, we could have a frontline that resembles a croissant sandwich. batum-amare-diaw. i think i could throw up that lunch.