Monti Ossenfort speaks today from the combine today 11:15 a.m. Arizona time.

[Zeem_Freeze]

We have a lot of cap. Whats the point of having more cap room? We’re not going to sign an equivalent replacement with the recovered cap.



In this like the big year Dortch was going to have?

What is the point of committing cap room to a RT who won't play 75% of the year and will have to ramp up upon return? What makes you think we can't find a player who will give us Jonah Williams level play for more than 25% of the season with $10.1 million? seems like that would be VERY easy to find.

Very similar reason DJ Humphries was cut and retired... If you get injured that late in the season, you add zero value to the team next season.

DJ at $8M a year at RT would be way better than Jonah at $16 mill cap hit for 4 games of play.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

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Take that Kyler Murray Doubters!

In your face!

 

[Dr. Jones]

This is always the way.

Change nothing.... Fit the system...... Retain mediocrity....... Spin it as success to your fans.

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[kerouac9]

What is the point of committing cap room to a RT who won't play 75% of the year and will have to ramp up upon return? What makes you think we can't find a player who will give us Jonah Williams level play for more than 25% of the season with $10.1 million? seems like that would be VERY easy to find.

Very similar reason DJ Humphries was cut and retired... If you get injured that late in the season, you add zero value to the team next season.

DJ at $8M a year at RT would be way better than Jonah at $16 mill cap hit for 4 games of play.

We don't know if and when Jonah Williams will come back. Do you know who does? Monti Ossenfort.

This was an intriguing story raised here by @Chopper0080 based on a passing mention by the AZSPT (or whatever) crew. Maybe it's real, but I'll wait and see before getting Big Mad.

It's pretty easy to look at the FA tackles available and decide where the alternatives are. There are four pending free agent RTs who played more than 50% of the snaps for their team last season.

One of them is Kelvin Beachum. Another is Mekhi Becton, who played guard last year.

 

[football karma]

We don't know if and when Jonah Williams will come back. Do you know who does? Monti Ossenfort.

the fact that Monti was crisp suggests to me the injury is the type that will be behind him by the time training camp starts

Jonah being ready might be the diff between HAVING to take Justin Simmons (to pick one) at 16 vs. resigning Beach and seeing if Christian Jones develops enough in 2025 to be the answer in 2026.

 

[unseenaz]

In this like the big year Dortch was going to have?

3 of the most memorable touchdowns in NFL history, 342 of the most impactful yards you'll ever see.

 

[Stout]

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“Absolutely, Trey is someone we want to extend.”Arizona Cardinals GM Monti Ossenfort says the team will “prioritize” extending TE Trey McBride but is unsure about the timeline.

Uh, he should be really sure about the timeline. WTF?

 

[Stout]

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Possible translation: Not drafting one at the top of the draft?

 

[Harry]

This is always the way.

Change nothing.... Fit the system...... Retain mediocrity....... Spin it as success to your fans.

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Restructuring Murray would make moving him more difficult. I’m guessing that’s not the plan. This is the deciding year IMO.

 

[kerouac9]

Restructuring Murray would make moving him more difficult. I’m guessing that’s not the plan. This is the deciding year IMO.

Yes, this year will definitely be the deciding year. Just like the last one, and the one before...

 

[PACardsFan]

This is always the way.

Change nothing.... Fit the system...... Retain mediocrity....... Spin it as success to your fans.

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I would suggest that Odegard go back and listen to what Michael & MO said back when MO was hired. They’re going to be a draft & develop franchise with the goal of sustainable success. We may be active in free agency, but we won’t break the bank in the early stages of free agency. If that process changes, fine, but until then, they have made it very clear as to how they intend to build this franchise.

 

[Chopper0080]

I would suggest that Odegard go back and listen to what Michael & MO said back when MO was hired. They’re going to be a draft & develop franchise with the goal of sustainable success. We may be active in free agency, but we won’t break the bank in the early stages of free agency. If that process changes, fine, but until then, they have made it very clear as to how they intend to build this franchise.

Every team's goal is sustainable success.

Not breaking the bank is code for cheap.

It's clear the same owner who is ranked as one of the worst in the NFL and has a long history of bad decision making, has made another decision which could also turn out bad.

 

[PDXChris]

i think we need to give MO this free agency period and draft andthen give him a grade as current GM

This is his make or break offseason, IMHO. He needs get us to at least a playoff win.

 

[PDXChris]

Uh, he should be really sure about the timeline. WTF?

Why? Offseason extensions always vary. We, historically, get them done in July/August after all the dust settles. Plus, he is under contract next season, no reason to make this thre first priority with almost the work that needs to be done. It'll get done!

Kyler - July 21
DJ Humphries - August 2
Larry - August 20
Buddha - August 25
Hopkins - September 2 (COVID season)

We just don't do them enough to be use to them happening.

 

[Stout]

Why? Offseason extensions always vary. We, historically, get them done in July/August after all the dust settles. Plus, he is under contract next season, no reason to make this thr first priority with almost the work thst needs to be done. It'll get done!

Kyler - July 21
DJ Humphries - August 2
Larry - August 20
Buddha - August 25
Hopkins - September 2 (COVID season)

We just don't do them enough to be use to them happening.

Yes, you may have flexibility in your own planning, but I don't want my GM coming out saying he's unsure on the timeline. A simple, "We will definitely get this done in a timely manner" is much clearer and stronger. Then again, I'm picking at anything coming out of his mouth, because he is really the Mouth of Sauron for the team.

 

[PACardsFan]

i think we need to give MO this free agency period and draft andthen give him a grade as current GM

When teams are given A+ offseasons with FA & the draft, that A+ seldom pans out for the season. Probably best to wait until after the 2025 season to fairly grade MO.

 

[kerouac9]

Yes, you may have flexibility in your own planning, but I don't want my GM coming out saying he's unsure on the timeline. A simple, "We will definitely get this done in a timely manner" is much clearer and stronger. Then again, I'm picking at anything coming out of his mouth, because he is really the Mouth of Sauron for the team.

Man, I dunno. I doubt that Monti's doubters would have been convinced by this response, either.

@PDXChris is accurate on when these extensions usually happen. When they happen earlier, it's to free up cap space, which isn't a current need w/r/t McBride's contract.

 

[Stout]

Man, I dunno. I doubt that Monti's doubters would have been convinced by this response, either.

@PDXChris is accurate on when these extensions usually happen. When they happen earlier, it's to free up cap space, which isn't a current need w/r/t McBride's contract.

I don't think we would have been unconvinced. To this point, I just kind of assume it will get done because even the most idiotic, incompetent booby could get it done, barring the player absolutely refusing, which doesn't seem likely. When I start hearing language that hedges in any way, with the Mouth of Sauron, I begin to doubt.

Edit: Also, we can do it early to eat up cap space that the team clearly isn't going to use.

 

[Chopper0080]

I don't think we would have been unconvinced. To this point, I just kind of assume it will get done because even the most idiotic, incompetent booby could get it done, barring the player absolutely refusing, which doesn't seem likely. When I start hearing language that hedges in any way, with the Mouth of Sauron, I begin to doubt.

Edit: Also, we can do it early to eat up cap space that the team clearly isn't going to use.

Do you want to hear Monti say that his primary concern is the combine, potentially re-signing AZ Cardinals with expiring contracts, and then prepping for outside FAs vs extending a guy under contract for the upcoming year which will free up cap space we don't need?

The subtext to what Monti actually is saying is that if McBride's camp wants to get accept the offer which has been presented, they can. If they want to haggle, it will have to wait a little bit.

 

[Harry]

Yes, you may have flexibility in your own planning, but I don't want my GM coming out saying he's unsure on the timeline. A simple, "We will definitely get this done in a timely manner" is much clearer and stronger. Then again, I'm picking at anything coming out of his mouth, because he is really the Mouth of Sauron for the team.

Congrats for the first Sauron reference I’ve seen on the board.

 

[daves]

@PDXChris is accurate on when these extensions usually happen. When they happen earlier, it's to free up cap space, which isn't a current need w/r/t McBride's contract.

Most likely the FO would be happy to get it done as soon as they're finished with the draft. But McBride's agent is incentivized to wait as long as possible before the start of the season, so that there's an opportunity for TE market value to be raised by other TE contracts. I'm not sure whether there are any other big TE contracts expected this year, however.

 

[PDXChris]

Most likely the FO would be happy to get it done as soon as they're finished with the draft. But McBride's agent is incentivized to wait as long as possible before the start of the season, so that there's an opportunity for TE market value to be raised by other TE contracts. I'm not sure whether there are any other big TE contracts expected this year, however.

Not a great TE market.

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[Ronin]

Ugh more reason for McBride contract negotiations to drag out

 

[Chopper0080]

Ugh more reason for McBride contract negotiations to drag out

IMO, this is one of the more valid reasons. Maybe they will hammer something out while at the combine, and we will get an announcement soon after that. Most of this depends on how much McBride's agent wants to push for. Everyone knows the Cardinals are going to pay him.

 

[kerouac9]

Most likely the FO would be happy to get it done as soon as they're finished with the draft. But McBride's agent is incentivized to wait as long as possible before the start of the season, so that there's an opportunity for TE market value to be raised by other TE contracts. I'm not sure whether there are any other big TE contracts expected this year, however.

Everyone in the FO goes on vacation after minicamp/OTAs. Once everyone is back from their various White Lotuses and prepping for training camp the deal will get done.

Monti definitely wants to be the one driving the process, which is why he’s not putting a timeline on it publicly.

I have zero problem with this.