More Kolb Trade Rumors (Trotter SI)

[bankybruce]

3-4 ILBs like Washington are easy to get and develop fairly quickly. We wouldn't be starting over that much. Besides, you can get a guy like James Anderson or Thomas Davis (both CAR), Mike Peterson (ATL), or Paul Posluzny and plug him in there. Heck, you could keep Paris Lenon at that position and your depth is a little more challenged (Although I think that Sturdivant is a better fit in at spot anyway) and get one of the bigger ILBs to play on the strongside and be all right .

OK, you sold me!!

Not sure why the Eagles would want Beanie. Hightower makes some sense because he's an RFA, but you can't have Beanie making more money as a first-rounder than McCoy. Even with Hightower you'd probably have to toss in a second-round pick to make the deal come together, but that'd be fair value to me.

Hightower could be a UFA if the players get what they want in the negortiations. Heard Wofley say that may have been the reason for the Ryan Williams pick.

 

[kerouac9]

Hightower could be a UFA if the players get what they want in the negortiations. Heard Wofley say that may have been the reason for the Ryan Williams pick.

Hightower has only been in the league three seasons. He'd be an RFA under the old rules, and from all I've heard they're not changing the rules for current players to read unrestricted free agency after four seasons.

You can't get rid of both Beanie and Hightower. You can't go into the season with Ryan Williams and LSH as your RB depth chart, no matter whom you have at fullback.

IMO, the Ryan Williams pick was a pure value selection, like when the Saints drafted Duce McAllister when they had Ricky Williams in his second or third year. They could've had a Top 15 grade on Williams. It's a grade that I'd disagree with, but it makes no sense to draft a RB who can't stay healthy when you have two guys you ostensibly like on the roster.

I don't think that the Cards can keep Hightower for a second contract, which is why they drafted Williams. I also think the team completely lost faith in Hightower but Wells wasn't 100% as so they were forced to stick with him.

But it makes no sense to draft 3 RBs in consecutive drafts when you never run the ball anyway.

 

[Duckjake]

Breaston isn't under contract and likely won't be under a new CBA. Not sure why the Eagles would want him because I don't think he'd rank among their top three or maybe four WRs. Wilson's not going anywhere as he's a Whis guy.

Not sure why the Eagles would want Beanie. Hightower makes some sense because he's an RFA, but you can't have Beanie making more money as a first-rounder than McCoy. Even with Hightower you'd probably have to toss in a second-round pick to make the deal come together, but that'd be fair value to me.

Bringing reality into a fantasy trade thread makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

This.



3-4 ILBs like Washington are easy to get and develop fairly quickly. We wouldn't be starting over that much. Besides, you can get a guy like James Anderson or Thomas Davis (both CAR), Mike Peterson (ATL), or Paul Posluzny and plug him in there. Heck, you could keep Paris Lenon at that position and your depth is a little more challenged (Although I think that Sturdivant is a better fit in at spot anyway) and get one of the bigger ILBs to play on the strongside and be all right.

Sorry, not buying what you are selling. If this were a normal team, I might agree with you. We are talking about the Cardinals here. Where the offensive line, running game, and linebacking core has been sub-par for at least a decade or more. If it were that easy, we'd have had better line backers. Simple as that.

 

[kerouac9]

Sorry, not buying what you are selling. If this were a normal team, I might agree with you. We are talking about the Cardinals here. Where the offensive line, running game, and linebacking core has been sub-par for at least a decade or more. If it were that easy, we'd have had better line backers. Simple as that.

Well, if we can't develop linebackers, then it doesn't make any difference whether we have Daryl Washington running nowhere very quickly or Paul Posluzny being a step and a half late in coverage, does it?

Gerald Hayes when he was healthy was a great value player. Karlos Dansby was one of the best linebackers in Cardinal History.

I don't understand this "if the Arizona Cardinals were a normal team" line. Then why do anything? We all know that Daryl Washington will be gone as a free agent disappointment in three years anyway.

 

[JeffGollin]

Given the reality of this blackout-jeopardized season, I'd be more biased toward standing pat with players who we know and who understand the Cardinal culture or system than I would making a bunch of trades which would create further instability while also sticking a potential monkey-wrench in the long-term health of the franchise.

If Kolb were Rivers, Cutler or even Eli Manning, I might be more inclined to give up a quality young prospect for him. But he hasn't proved on the field that he's even close to being that good.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Well, if we can't develop linebackers, then it doesn't make any difference whether we have Daryl Washington running nowhere very quickly or Paul Posluzny being a step and a half late in coverage, does it?

Gerald Hayes when he was healthy was a great value player. Karlos Dansby was one of the best linebackers in Cardinal History.

I don't understand this "if the Arizona Cardinals were a normal team" line. Then why do anything? We all know that Daryl Washington will be gone as a free agent disappointment in three years anyway.

We could always go back to the 46 defense..

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Well, if we can't develop linebackers, then it doesn't make any difference whether we have Daryl Washington running nowhere very quickly or Paul Posluzny being a step and a half late in coverage, does it?

Gerald Hayes when he was healthy was a great value player. Karlos Dansby was one of the best linebackers in Cardinal History.

I don't understand this "if the Arizona Cardinals were a normal team" line. Then why do anything? We all know that Daryl Washington will be gone as a free agent disappointment in three years anyway.

I must be a minority of one... because I don't know this.

 

[Duckjake]

I must be a minority of one... because I don't know this.

You also obviously don't know that K9 was simply making a point with that statement. He doesn't really believe he KNOWS Washington will be gone in 3 years.

Though with the Cardinals history it might be a safe bet.

 

[D-Dogg]

We are talking about the Cardinals here.

Sadly, this point covers everything like a wet blanket.

 

[DoTheDew]

Levi Brown?