Morris Trade Options?

[Catlover]

PHX cannot keep him on the roster unless Hornacek is gone. You can't do what he did to a coach and forget that happened, especially when it was done in public.

You don't keep a cancer around...you cut it out. Maybe PHX and God willing HOU are still waiting for Jan 15 to complete a deal.

I think you're elevating the status of the towel toss. We need to move him because he simply isn't a part of the team. Reading through and listening to some of the comments from the front office it sounds like he hasn't been working on his game or his training. He's playing worse now than he did as a rookie but hopefully some team out there believes they can fix him.

 

[overseascardfan]

I think you're elevating the status of the towel toss. We need to move him because he simply isn't a part of the team. Reading through and listening to some of the comments from the front office it sounds like he hasn't been working on his game or his training. He's playing worse now than he did as a rookie but hopefully some team out there believes they can fix him.

Robert Horry was dealt I believe less than 2 weeks after throwing a towel at Ainge (maybe it was a week) but whether or not if it was intentional, he is definitely under minding Hornacek's authority.

 

[Catlover]

Robert Horry was dealt I believe less than 2 weeks after throwing a towel at Ainge (maybe it was a week) but whether or not if it was intentional, he is definitely under minding Hornacek's authority.

Horry threw the towel in his face, Markieff threw the towel "towards" the coach. And I don't think Hornacek had all that much authority to begin with given that he'd asked for and not received an extension. Plus the incident last year with brother Marcus was far more insulting and he wasn't dealt for several months.

Regardless, Markieff was only still in Phoenix for the towel incident because they had yet to recieve the offer they wanted for him. I don't think anything changes because of this incident. They still want to move him and they still want value in return.

 

[sunsfan88]

PHX cannot keep him on the roster unless Hornacek is gone. You can't do what he did to a coach and forget that happened, especially when it was done in public.

You don't keep a cancer around...you cut it out. Maybe PHX and God willing HOU are still waiting for Jan 15 to complete a deal.

The more Houston games I watch, the less I'm impressed of Terrence Jones. I don't know if their just not using him right but other than being young and being from Kentucky which I know gives him special marks in the Suns eyes, he really does not look very impressive.

Corey Brewer resembles Shannon Brown in many ways. Very, very low basketball IQ and makes many dumb plays so he would fit in on the Suns perfectly along with the others we have but I'm not sure if adding more players like that is the right way to go. Especially considering he's on a relatively expensive (for a player of his skill set) contract for next couple years.

 

[Catlover]

I keep thinking there might be a package we could put together to get Okafor. He really doesn't fit the uptempo game they seem to now want to play and Noel just played probably his best game ever after being moved back to center.

He wouldn't fit with our 2 combo guard offense or even with just Knight but a Bledsoe, Booker, Warren, Tucker, Okafor lineup might be interesting. We could maybe make a couple of trades, parting ways with Markieff, Knight, Goodwin and Len (plus a pick if necessary) in return for the guard Houston doesn't want and the center Philadelphia might not want.

 

[Mainstreet]

I keep thinking there might be a package we could put together to get Okafor. He really doesn't fit the uptempo game they seem to now want to play and Noel just played probably his best game ever after being moved back to center.

He wouldn't fit with our 2 combo guard offense or even with just Knight but a Bledsoe, Booker, Warren, Tucker, Okafor lineup might be interesting. We could maybe make a couple of trades, parting ways with Markieff, Knight, Goodwin and Len (plus a pick if necessary) in return for the guard Houston doesn't want and the center Philadelphia might not want.

I still like your idea of trading for Portis or some other young PF that has his future in front of him.

After watching Tucker and Warren play well together against OKC, maybe the Suns are onto something. Since good PFs are so hard to get, maybe the Suns should be shopping for a physical forward with skills that can play both SF and PF. I think the Suns wanted to sign DeMarre Carroll before pursuing Aldridge. Carroll would have been a good fit.

 

[sunsfan88]

I still like your idea of trading for Portis or some other young PF that has his future in front of him.

After watching Tucker and Warren play well together against OKC, maybe the Suns are onto something. Since good PFs are so hard to get, maybe the Suns should be shopping for a physical forward with skills that can play both SF and PF. I think the Suns wanted to sign DeMarre Carroll before pursuing Aldridge. Carroll would have been a good fit.

I don't think the Bulls will trade Portis. He's probably their best PF and they have been playing well since he got his minutes.

I could see Chicago dealing away another young PF in Mirotic however if the Suns were interested in him.

I liked Carroll as well.

Rather than Okafor, perhaps the 76ers deal away Embiid with all the injuries he's had. If he can be had for a decent value, I would take a flyer on him if the Suns training staff feel they can help keep him healthy.

 

[Phrazbit]

Joel Embiid's attitude concerns me as much as his injuries. He does not seem to take his health or recovery very seriously, reportedly he needed the second surgery because he ignored his trainers and doctors advice regarding his diet and didn't bother to wear his walking boot during recovery.

IMO he is going to stay with the Sixers until his value is completely toast. He is clearly damaged goods, so no team in their right mind would give up real value for him and in the Sixers position there is no point in shipping him off for crap.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Joel Embiid's attitude concerns me as much as his injuries. He does not seem to take his health or recovery very seriously, reportedly he needed the second surgery because he ignored his trainers and doctors advice regarding his diet and didn't bother to wear his walking boot during recovery.

IMO he is going to stay with the Sixers until his value is completely toast. He is clearly damaged goods, so no team in their right mind would give up real value for him and in the Sixers position there is no point in shipping him off for crap.

Perfect trade for Kieff then. Crap for crap.

 

[Phrazbit]

Perfect trade for Kieff then. Crap for crap.

Yeah, but I don't think the Sixers would do it. They have nothing to lose at this point with Embiid, they might as well wait it out and make absolutely sure he is worthless rather than trade him when his value is essentially... worthless.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Yeah, but I don't think the Sixers would do it. They have nothing to lose at this point with Embiid, they might as well wait it out and make absolutely sure he is worthless rather than trade him when his value is essentially... worthless.

It would be less risk for Philly than for us. At least they know Kieff can play. But he is not a Colangelo type of player.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

This 6'9 guy reportedly did nothing other than keep others from filming the incident. And there was history with the "victim" and from what I've read, the other guy is nowhere near squeaky. I'm not sure in what way they were defending their mother but that's how the FOE camp always paints it. Nothing in that incident makes them the good guys but until we actually know what truly happened I think it's premature to play judge and jury.

We can all name multiple incidents where the morrii have worn the black. Their deutchbags plain and simple. If you disagree please provide us with an alternative list of actions that supports the fact they're really good guys worthy of our admiration abd dollars. I don't know of a single such story.

 

[Phrazbit]

It would be less risk for Philly than for us. At least they know Kieff can play. But he is not a Colangelo type of player.

Nah, I think the risk for Philly is greater. The Suns are giving up a dude that oscillates between sub-par starter and general piece of crap. While the Sixers are giving up a guy who looks like a piece of crap right now... but buried in the layers of that turd is a player that people think had potential to be a star.

They may as well make sure he is or isn't a star.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Can a team keep an uninjured player on the roster and have him not dress or sit on the bench for home games or travel for away games? Don't specifically suspend him, and keep paying him. Just make him a nonentity? I would like to see that done with markieff.

 

[Phrazbit]

Can a team keep an uninjured player on the roster and have him not dress or sit on the bench for home games or travel for away games? Don't specifically suspend him, and keep paying him. Just make him a nonentity? I would like to see that done with markieff.

Yeah, its been done before. The Knicks did it with Marbury for nearly a year.

 

[Catlover]

We can all name multiple incidents where the morrii have worn the black. Their deutchbags plain and simple. If you disagree please provide us with an alternative list of actions that supports the fact they're really good guys worthy of our admiration abd dollars. I don't know of a single such story.

I don't think they are "really good guys". I think they are selfish, immature and guilty of gross rationalization in support of their behavior. About the only thing I respect about them is their relationship with teammates and the fact they are fiercely loyal to those close to them.

I just don't think it does anyone any good to twist the facts. Markieff didn't go off on a rant about the fans, Markieff didn't pound on a senior citizen and Markieff did not throw a towel in Jeff's face.

Markieff made a reasoned comments about fan support but picked the worst possible time to do it. Markieff was to some degree involved in an altercation although reportedly he did not throw a punch. And Markieff threw a towel in Jeff's direction. Those are all over the line, there's no need to exaggerate them.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I don't think they are "really good guys". I think they are selfish, immature and guilty of gross rationalization in support of their behavior. About the only thing I respect about them is their relationship with teammates and the fact they are fiercely loyal to those close to them.

I just don't think it does anyone any good to twist the facts. Markieff didn't go off on a rant about the fans, Markieff didn't pound on a senior citizen and Markieff did not throw a towel in Jeff's face.

Markieff made a reasoned comments about fan support but picked the worst possible time to do it. Markieff was to some degree involved in an altercation although reportedly he did not throw a punch. And Markieff threw a towel in Jeff's direction. Those are all over the line, there's no need to exaggerate them.

Wow do I disagree with you. Players and teams EARN fan support. He's done nothing to earn it. But he bashes those that ultimately allow him to earn an absurd salary for that which he does. He was undeniably involved on an altercation. His level of involvement is yet to, and may never be fully, known bc I'm sure his sycophants will lie to protect their gravy trains. And he undeniably threw a towel at his head coach in anger. Who the hell cares where it hit him???

And this doesn't even get into his on court misbehavior with the techs and his not playing his heart out this year . . . for those same teammates about whom you argue he is fiercely loyal.

 

[Catlover]

Wow do I disagree with you. Players and teams EARN fan support. He's done nothing to earn it. But he bashes those that ultimately allow him to earn an absurd salary for that which he does. He was undeniably involved on an altercation. His level of involvement is yet to, and may never be fully, known bc I'm sure his sycophants will lie to protect their gravy trains. And he undeniably threw a towel at his head coach in anger. Who the hell cares where it hit him???

And this doesn't even get into his on court misbehavior with the techs and his not playing his heart out this year . . . for those same teammates about whom you argue he is fiercely loyal.

I don't know him. His teammates speak glowingly about him, that's all I can go on. But despite your reaction we're not that far apart. I want him gone, maybe not for the same reasons as you do but the result is the same.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I don't know him. His teammates speak glowingly about him, that's all I can go on. But despite your reaction we're not that far apart. I want him gone, maybe not for the same reasons as you do but the result is the same.

I'll bet I agree with your reasons, I just may have more of them.

To be honest, even at his best I just don't think he's that good. Better than I expected when we drafted him, but still not very good.

 

[Chaplin]

We just waived Cory Jefferson and Bryce Cotton.

 

[overseascardfan]

Is today the day?

 

[Mainstreet]

Is today the day?

I understand there is a hearing scheduled at 8:30 a.m. for the Morris twins at Maricopa County Superior Court. As of yet, I have not heard any news.

 

[sunsfan88]

Cavs' Players Would Support Trade For Markieff Morris

Several influential figures in the Cleveland Cavaliers' locker room are open to the notion of trading for Markieff Morris.

They believe the Cavs can get the most potential out of him in the role he'd be assigned.

Morris would give the Cavaliers another stretch-four to back up Kevin Love and he'd also serve as an insurance policy in case of an injury.

The organization fears Morris could disrupt the team's chemistry.

The Cavaliers own a $10.5 million trade exception that expires in the offseason. Morris' $8 million annual salary could be absorbed into it, but they would have to send additional assets to the Phoenix Suns the Cavs are short on.

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/01/cleveland_cavalier_players_wou.html

Not sure what the Cavs have to offer for Kieff at this point other than the trade exception or Mozgov's expiring contract.

 

[hcsilla]

A future 1st rounder.

 

[JCSunsfan]

A future 1st rounder.

What is that going to be worth? For the next few years at least it will be at the end of the first round.