Morris Trade Options?

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I want this guy out of town ASAP, but the only thing I can see her back is a mid-late 1st round pick.

I can't even think of trades for a starting PF, that would work.
 

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BOS - Jared Sullinger
CHA - Cody Zeller
HOU - Terrence Jones
DEN - Kenneth Faried
NO - Ryan Anderson

Other pieces would have to get involved of course but the players above would be the center pieces for Morris.
 

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BOS - Jared Sullinger
CHA - Cody Zeller
HOU - Terrence Jones
DEN - Kenneth Faried
NO - Ryan Anderson

Other pieces would have to get involved of course but the players above would be the center pieces for Morris.

Center pieces - lol!

Cody Zeller is horrible and would make us much worse.

Terrence Jones is not better than Kieff and always injured.

Jared Sullinger is an undersized center, always injured and does not fit an up-tempo style.

Kenneth Faried is extremely limited, can't space the floor, huge ego and paid much more than Morris.

Ryan Anderson would be a fit, but he is a liability on defense, on the wrong side of his prime and going to be a FA looking for a big payday.
 

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Zeller - no.

Ryan Anderson is not the same player which once he was, both his rebounding and 3P-shooting declined after his serious injuries. Having said that he still might be a trade or FA-target for the Suns.

Sullinger and Jones are fine, but I don't really see why their respective teams would trade them for Markieff. Besides both will get paid next season.

Faried is OK, but I don't think that he fits in offensively especially with Chandler as a starting C.


Ilyasova may be another decent option, my favourite idea is Ilyasova, Stanley Johnson for Markieff, Goodwin and whatever (excluding core players + Len) it takes from the Suns' side.
 

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Ilyasova may be another decent option, my favourite idea is Ilyasova, Stanley Johnson for Markieff, Goodwin and whatever (excluding core players + Len) it takes from the Suns' side.

I could buy that if it does not include Warren, Len, Goodwin..

Morris, Tucker, Cleveland 2016 1st round pick, 2020 Detroit 2nd round pick
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Illyasova, Johnson

Chandler/Len
Illyasova/Leuer/Teletovic
Warren/Johnson/Weems
Knight/Booker
Bledsoe/Goodwin/Price

of course Hornacek will somehow still be playing Teletovic, Price and Weems.
 

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If Tucker more or less returns to his last season's level (especially defensively), he might be wanted by Van Gundy.
 

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Anyway I think we should aim higher than just doing a lateral trade.

Target Aaron Gordon.

Offer Markieff Morris and combination of any of our picks Cleveland 16, Miami 19, Miami 21, Phoenix 16, Phoenix 18. Orlando has a balanced you roster but their GM is an asset collector guy so this might be a time where you make a net negative trade in terms of assets to balance your own roster.

Really hard to find performing Power Forwards in the league right now, they are kind of all struggling. Loads of PFs getting minutes with less than 10 PER.

I think you have to take a gamble with a young guy, thus Aaron Gordon though he might be too highly valued to be realistic. Maybe Myles Turner from the Pacers.
 
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I highly doubt that the Magic would trade Gordon for this kind of package.

It's doubtful anyway, since they have time and if develops Gordon is an excellent fit to Vucevic.
 

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I highly doubt that the Magic would trade Gordon for this kind of package.

It's doubtful anyway, since they have time and if develops Gordon is an excellent fit to Vucevic.

The right combination of those picks and Morris should be a higher value than Gordon, so at that point it is about finding the right combination of trade partners to get everyone what they want.

Next years draft does not look good for PFs either.

There is Ben Simmons who can be the real deal modern NBA forward and others that are all looking more likely to be centers than forwards.
 

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BOS - Jared Sullinger
CHA - Cody Zeller
HOU - Terrence Jones
DEN - Kenneth Faried
NO - Ryan Anderson

Other pieces would have to get involved of course but the players above would be the center pieces for Morris.

Sullinger is the same player without the attitude. Not sure why Ainge would make that deal.

Anderson is a free agent this summer. Might as well trade Kieff for a pick and sign Anderson then. We are not THAT close that a rental would help.

No team is going to want to trade an acceptible pf for Kieff who is a pf. Any good player we get for Kieff will be a backup behind another good player, at a position other than pf, on a team that needs a pf.

If that situation does not exist, play Kieff off of the bench.
 

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1. Houston needs a starting pg.
2. Philly needs veteran, but not too old, talent.
 

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We need a power forward and unless we go after a young one that's not yet in heavy use (Bobby Portis), I think it will take a multi-team deal. I'm not convinced we're better off without Markieff although it's clear we're better off without the current version of him. Whether that can be turned around is beyond me.

Any opinions on moving someone like Frank Kaminsky into the power forward position? I can't see him thriving as a center but maybe next to a good defensive big man he could work as a stretch 4? I don't know if we have anything they'd want (that we would be willing to move) but they seem to have extra bodies at the big spots.
 

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Cousins or bust.

I am not against that. I am surprised that you are a Cousins fan. I would be against over paying. Getting Cousins would be akin to getting Barkley back in the day.

A core of Cousins, Bledsoe, Knight, Booker, and Warren would be a really good young way to go.

Almost any combination of Kieff, Archie, Len, PJ, Leuer, Tele, Weems and up to three first rounders would be worth it.
 
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I am not against that. I am surprised that you are a Cousins fan. I would be against over paying. Getting Cousins would be akin to getting Barkley back in the day.

A core of Cousins, Bledsoe, Knight, Booker, and Warren would be a really good young way to go.

Almost any combination of Kieff, Archie, Len, PJ, Leuer, Tele, Weems and up to three first rounders would be worth it.

Exactly! Who wouldnt want a 6'11 version of Barkley on the Suns?

Get it done!:suns:
 

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Selling low. If they trade him now they'll get nothing in return and he'll return to last years level for his new team. The Suns will look like idiots.

Does that matter?
 

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I am not against that. I am surprised that you are a Cousins fan. I would be against over paying. Getting Cousins would be akin to getting Barkley back in the day.

A core of Cousins, Bledsoe, Knight, Booker, and Warren would be a really good young way to go.

Almost any combination of Kieff, Archie, Len, PJ, Leuer, Tele, Weems and up to three first rounders would be worth it.

Why would Sac make that trade?? How in the world does that benefit them?
 

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The Suns might be able to work a trade for Cousins but Kief would be a throw in at best.
 

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The Suns might be able to work a trade for Cousins but Kief would be a throw in at best.

All of the above players mentioned would be considered throw ins. The three first round picks would probably have greater value.
 
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