My Biggest Draft Worry

[Krangodnzr]

Three of the players that were brought in on visits last year were drafted by the Cardinals:

Paris Johnson Jr
Garrett Williams
Kei’Trel Clark

McMahon from NC State is my late round bet that the Cardinals draft. He had a ridiculously low short shuttle time and his RAS was pretty good.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Paris Johnson & Brian Thomas
Or
Will Anderson & MHJ

Yeah this horror film keeps playing in my head.

 

[phillycard]

And his name is Adonai Mitchell

I swear I get Kevin White vibes from this dude. I'm not sure about him.

 

[netsnjkidd]

Very true.

Just pointing to the fact that we could have 2 guys that are game changers and we might not get them. Neither PJ or BT have this tag coming out of college.

Both dudes can be good but man I would rather take a possible sure thing.

When has will Anderson ever been said to be a game changer? I think his gunna be a good player we didnt pass on the next micah parsons

 

[ASUCHRIS]

When has will Anderson ever been said to be a game changer?

Literally the defensive rookie of the year.

"Anderson's 7.0 sacks this season set a new franchise record for most sacks by a rookie in a single-season and his 67 pressures led all rookies in the NFL this year. Anderson's standout rookie season culminated with a Pro Bowl honor, becoming just the second defensive rookie in team history to be named to the Pro Bowl."

Sounds like a game changer to me, especially at a position of desperate need!

 

[Mulli]

Literally the defensive rookie of the year.

"Anderson's 7.0 sacks this season set a new franchise record for most sacks by a rookie in a single-season and his 67 pressures led all rookies in the NFL this year. Anderson's standout rookie season culminated with a Pro Bowl honor, becoming just the second defensive rookie in team history to be named to the Pro Bowl."

Sounds like a game changer to me, especially at a position of desperate need!

You want to crown him. Go ahead and crown him!

 

[netsnjkidd]

Literally the defensive rookie of the year.

"Anderson's 7.0 sacks this season set a new franchise record for most sacks by a rookie in a single-season and his 67 pressures led all rookies in the NFL this year. Anderson's standout rookie season culminated with a Pro Bowl honor, becoming just the second defensive rookie in team history to be named to the Pro Bowl."

Sounds like a game changer to me, especially at a position of desperate need!

i mean chase young won defensive rookie of the year. ima need more than one year to label someone a game changer

 

[ASUCHRIS]

i mean chase young one defensive rookie of the year. ima need more than one year to label someone a game changer

In his only year in the NFL, he outperformed every other rookie. Does that mean he's going to the HOF? Of course not, but it's about as good a start as one could hope for. He's a guy we could desperately use, no?

 

[Solar7]

One thing I will say about the Paris Johnson thing is that if DJ Humphries goes down last season and we don't have PJJ, the pick here is probably Joe Alt instead of a receiver. So there's that to consider.

 

[kerouac9]

When has will Anderson ever been said to be a game changer? I think his gunna be a good player we didnt pass on the next micah parsons

Vanderbilt's coach called him one.

 

[Mulli]

Vanderbilt's coach called him one.

Who?

 

[netsnjkidd]

In his only year in the NFL, he outperformed every other rookie. Does that mean he's going to the HOF? Of course not, but it's about as good a start as one could hope for. He's a guy we could desperately use, no?

Most definitely could of used him. Were not gunna act like 2023 was loaded with high defensive prospects. When we use words like game changer makes it seem like we passed on von miller. Latu, Verse, Turner could be just as good as him.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Latu, Verse, Turner could be just as good as him.

Could be. None of those 3 are as highly regarded as Will Anderson.

 

[netsnjkidd]

Could be. None of those 3 are as highly regarded as Will Anderson.

This is a way stronger draft. especially offense wise

 

[ASUCHRIS]

This is a way stronger draft. especially offense wise

Ok. We'll see if any of your trio are defensive player of the year.

 

[602 Native]

Obviously this is a contradiction in terms.

I believe the ceiling for MHJ is higher than Brian Thomas's, but not by much. I think Brian Thomas's 99th percentile outcome is A.J. Green; MHJ's is probably similar -- but that is more like his 80th percentile outcome.

I also think that MHJ's floor is way higher. It's difficult to imagine Harrison Jr being worse than, like, Courtland Sutton on his rookie deal, barring injury. Is it that difficult to imagine Brian Thomas being Will Fuller?

The point is we took Johnson last year when the consensus was take Will Anderson.

This year the consensus is MHJ and we might take Thomas.

I remember a certain GM also being much smarter than everyone else who turned out to be a turd.

I am rooting for MO but missing on Anderson for future picks is a first strike.

 

[602 Native]

When has will Anderson ever been said to be a game changer? I think his gunna be a good player we didnt pass on the next micah parsons

Dear lord

 

[602 Native]

Imagine the excitement had Anderson been on our team and set the rookie sack record.

I am sure we would have tons of people on this board comparing him to Chase Young and how he is a flash in the pan.

 

[kerouac9]

The point is we took Johnson last year when the consensus was take Will Anderson.

This year the consensus is MHJ and we might take Thomas.

I remember a certain GM also being much smarter than everyone else who turned out to be a turd.

I am rooting for MO but missing on Anderson for future picks is a first strike.

I wanted us to take Will Anderson also, but we didn't take Paris Johnson Jr instead of him. Maybe it will turn out that PJJ is slightly better and much healthier DJ Humphries, the Houston first pick turns out to be an average CB/DT/Edge, and the Houston 3rd turns into an average rotational/situational WR. That's a pretty good outcome.

We'll see if Will Anderson turns out to be the next Myles Garrett. He turned out to be the best defensive rookie of a pretty mid draft class. Kyler Murray turned out to be the best offensive rookie of a pretty dire draft class on that side of the ball.

Time will tell.

 

[Mulli]

Ya, we will see is he is the next Myles Garrett lol too funny

 

[QuebecCard]

The point is we took Johnson last year when the consensus was take Will Anderson.

This year the consensus is MHJ and we might take Thomas.

I remember a certain GM also being much smarter than everyone else who turned out to be a turd.

I am rooting for MO but missing on Anderson for future picks is a first strike.

Concensus minus... Monti.

It's been widely reported that PARIS was, in fact, Monti's first choice.

 

[QuebecCard]

Imagine the excitement had Anderson been on our team and set the rookie sack record.

I am sure we would have tons of people on this board comparing him to Chase Young and how he is a flash in the pan.

It's hard to imagine, given that it's far from the truth, and he wasn't even the sack leader on his own team.

Rookie Sack Leaders In The NFL All-time | StatMuse

Jevon Kearse has the most sacks by a rookie, with 14.5 sacks in 1999.

www.statmuse.com

 

[MadCardDisease]

It's hard to imagine, given that it's far from the truth, and he wasn't even the sack leader on his own team.

Rookie Sack Leaders In The NFL All-time | StatMuse

Jevon Kearse has the most sacks by a rookie, with 14.5 sacks in 1999.

www.statmuse.com

I’ve heard that Monti’s top choice was CB Devon Witherspoon

 

[ASUCHRIS]

It's been widely reported that PARIS was, in fact, Monti's first choice.

Like as the best player in the draft?

 

[DVontel]

Just pointing to the fact that we could have 2 guys that are game changers and we might not get them.

Not guaranteed we would be in position to draft MHJ if we drafted Anderson last season.