NBA Finals Cleveland vs Golden State

[nashman]

Lebron can't beat them by himself! He has played well let's face it tonight with no bogut he had a dunk fest. Not to mention GS afraid to get near him with the way the whistles go! They have won by grabbing and beating up on Curry period! The MVP can't get a call it's ludicrous, very much like the Nash MVP days and couldn't buy a damn foul.

 

[jbeecham]

Lebron can't beat them by himself! He has played well let's face it tonight with no bogut he had a dunk fest. Not to mention GS afraid to get near him with the way the whistles go! They have won by grabbing and beating up on Curry period! The MVP can't get a call it's ludicrous, very much like the Nash MVP days and couldn't buy a damn foul.

We get your point man, repeating it over & over doesn't make it any truer. I'm not sure why you're so worked up about it if you're a Suns fan... it's not happening to the Suns.

I'm sure the GS fans on their forums are lighting up their post counts with bitching & moaning about the refs.

 

[TJ]

That tends to happen AJ when your getting screwed by the officials and get frustrated by the lack of calls. Like I said when your continued to be allowed to grab and hold curry and clay cutting thru the lane you screw up their offense. It's not like the team that's won 88 games this year forgot how to play basketball, THEIR NOT BEING ALLOWED TOO! Refs are letting Cleveland get away with grabbing and clutching and bam they can compete, but only while constantly fouling and not being called on it lol. Even the announcers comment on it, watch Curry on a possession the bump grab hold him knock him down and he still runs a track meet and scores but they are wearing him out! Clutching grabbing and knocking him down is not basketball it's ugly garbage and the NBA catering to Lebron! Yeah that was the NBA MVP getting rang up with garbage fouls tonight and fouled out of a winnable game with over 4 minutes left in game 6 of the finals, you think Lebron gets those fouls... Hell No!

The Finals officiating tends to favor the teams that play more physical. Cleveland is by far the more physical team. GSW is finesse. When GSW's 3-point shot isn't falling at an insane clip, it really has trouble compensating. Fortunately, for GSW, it's has two of the best shooters ever, and they're both not gonna go cold again. They'll get theirs on Sunday.

 

[Dude]

Lebron can't beat them by himself! He has played well let's face it tonight with no bogut he had a dunk fest. Not to mention GS afraid to get near him with the way the whistles go! They have won by grabbing and beating up on Curry period! The MVP can't get a call it's ludicrous, very much like the Nash MVP days and couldn't buy a damn foul.

No he can't but that's win 3. They lost 9 all year. If you think the refs did all that you just sound silly. 25-25 fouls each. They gave Love so many fouls he was almost gone in the first half. At the start it looked more like they were in the tank for GS to stay in it. They just got beat that was easy to see. Did the refs make GS turn the ball over so much to start the game they were down 24? Cleveland came out and put it to them most of the game.

 

[nashman]

Lol ok I think being a Suns fan is one of the reasons it ticks me off. To see the better team get shafted and they did, I don't care that Lebron played well because part of that is he is allowed to just run people over and never get a charge called, and play crazy aggressive defense without fouling lol. The refs took Curry out a lot of the game and then when the game in reach easily with over 4 minutes left foul him out on another bs foul lol. That would not happen to Lebron period in game 6 of the finals. I like watching GS play because they play beautiful team basketball which is being totally jacked by the defense Cleveland is being allowed to play! The Cavs are terribly boring give the ball to James he stands there for 15 seconds and drives and shoots or kicks it's ugly basketball. And yes is frustrating to watch them knock Curry all over the floor and not get called on it, their whole game plan is to grab curry and clay to kill the Warriors flow and should not be allowed. I'm glad Kerr straight up told the truth fines be damned they are getting away with way too much to not be called and then Ticky tacking the MVP out of a finals game that was well within reach.

 

[Russ Smith]

But, how in the hell does Golden State get so BAD all of the sudden? Yes, I know Cleveland played better BUT...

1. Horrible shooting even when the shots were wide open.

2. SLOPPY, SLOPPY turnovers... just way too many are unforced.

3. Defensive breakdowns and lack of hustle back GALORE.

It was more like watching a Suns game these last two games than a NBA Finals game!

I think they were shell shocked after Curry's 2nd foul. Bad start but Curry hits a 3 it's 13-5, you're only down 8 and it seems to have stabilized. then Curry gets the foul and has to sit, and it goes 18-6 the rest of the quarter. Livingston has been really good but his first stint last night was bad, at the same time Klay and Barnes were terrible(Barnes was 0-5 in the first) and they just fell apart.

Then they stablized again got it to 8 and Curry missed that long 3 and Cleveland pulled again. Then later in the game they had it at 9, Curry gambled for a steal doesn't get it, Smith nails a 3 it's 12 and then all hell broke loose.

I think the big concern is can the Warriors regain their cool, and of course the obvious how is Iggy's back?

 

[Russ Smith]

Lol ok I think being a Suns fan is one of the reasons it ticks me off. To see the better team get shafted and they did, I don't care that Lebron played well because part of that is he is allowed to just run people over and never get a charge called, and play crazy aggressive defense without fouling lol. The refs took Curry out a lot of the game and then when the game in reach easily with over 4 minutes left foul him out on another bs foul lol. That would not happen to Lebron period in game 6 of the finals. I like watching GS play because they play beautiful team basketball which is being totally jacked by the defense Cleveland is being allowed to play! The Cavs are terribly boring give the ball to James he stands there for 15 seconds and drives and shoots or kicks it's ugly basketball. And yes is frustrating to watch them knock Curry all over the floor and not get called on it, their whole game plan is to grab curry and clay to kill the Warriors flow and should not be allowed. I'm glad Kerr straight up told the truth fines be damned they are getting away with way too much to not be called and then Ticky tacking the MVP out of a finals game that was well within reach.

There was one play with LeBron that had no impact on the game at all but I found annoying. Late in teh game Green is pressing up on LEBron and he's dribbling with one hand and using his other hand to hold Green off. Green got frustrated and reached in and stole the ball, but they called a foul./ If you saw the replay the only contact on that play was as Green reached for the steal, LeBron's offhand came up and blocked Green's hand. You can't call that a foul you can't use your offhand to hold off the defender like that.

I actually thought Green was getting a T for arguing that I think he did that quite intentionally in the hopes they'll get that call in game 7. It was completely irrelevant to THAT game, but what LeBron was doing there is completely against the rules and it was bizarre to me that the refs called a foul there all teh contact was his offhand clearing space.

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

Nashman, it is funny that you are commenting about the poor refereeing in this series, saying it is to the benefit of the Cavs, yet have said nothing about the terrible refereeing in the last 3 games of the OKC series, which were totally in favor of the Warriors. So, which is it? The amount of holding and grabbing on screens that the Warriors do to get Curry and Klay open is egregious. But you probably know that. I enjoy watching Curry and Klay shoot - don't get me wrong - but you have to admit that the favors, if any, have gone every which way in the postseason.

 

[Ronin]

Game 7 tickets are starting at $1,000.

 

[Ronin]

Fred Katz ‏@FredKatz 28s28 seconds ago
NBA just announced a $25K fine for Curry for throwing mouthpiece and a $25K fine for Kerr for critiquing refs.

 

[95pro]

Fred Katz ‏@FredKatz 28s28 seconds ago
NBA just announced a $25K fine for Curry for throwing mouthpiece and a $25K fine for Kerr for critiquing refs.

Kerr is either really smart or really dumb. They're hoping last nights beach-fest pays off in getting them the calls for game 7.

 

[Covert Rain]

Blaming the loss on officiating is a joke. Lebron was unstoppable aside from the times that physical contact resulted in a foul. Bad officiating had nothing to do with all the wide open missed shots by GS. Bad officiating had nothing to do with all the horrible defensive rotations and bad double teams in every quarter by GS.

 

[Russ Smith]

Fred Katz ‏@FredKatz 28s28 seconds ago
NBA just announced a $25K fine for Curry for throwing mouthpiece and a $25K fine for Kerr for critiquing refs.

Yeah that was obvious. I guess in a sense when LeBron and Lue whined it resulted in 2 wins for Cleveland but that had more to do with LeBron than the refs changing IMO.

one side point not being mentioned, how seriously did Kyrie hurt his foot? He only had 3 points in the whole 2nd half and one of those was the T after Curry got ejected. I don't know if it was the ankle or foot but it's the same left leg that he had the kneecap injury on last night. He didn't appear to be limping and maybe it was lebron was going nuts so Kyrie let him go, but he was very quiet in the 2nd half.

 

[elindholm]

Congratulations to the ten people who predicted a seven-game series in the poll. I was not one of them.

 

[TJ]

Kerr is either really smart or really dumb. They're hoping last nights beach-fest pays off in getting them the calls for game 7.

Aside from $25k hey could pay the league out of his sock, he has nothing to lose by calling out the officials.

 

[Russ Smith]

Aside from $25k hey could pay the league out of his sock, he has nothing to lose by calling out the officials.

You actually do especially given Curry's actions and then his wife saying the NBA is rigged. Refs don't like being shown up by players and they don't like coaches etc telling them how to do their jobs publicly like that.

Lue did it after game 4 and didn't seem to have any lasting impact so hopefully that will be the case in game 7.

That's why Curry's reaction bothers me so much, Jon Barry praised him for it said he needed to get mad he's being manhandled etc. I just don't see any benefit to showing up a ref, and showing the other team that LeBron is in your head like that.

I'm hoping Steph can regain his composure the thing is the last 3 games he is shooting 44% from 3, people haven't really noticed because they've lost 2 of those games but he has to an extent gotten his shot back, still not shooting great he's missing some open looks, but he's made 18 threes in the last 3 games. But he can't get in foul trouble they're not the same team against Cleveland without him and he has to reduce the turnovers, 4 a game in the finals is a big problem.

 

[nashman]

Lues comments didn't have any effect lol. What games are you watching man since his comments they haven't lost due to them getting incredibly physical with minimal fouls being called.

 

[AZCrazy]

All you ask for is an equally officiated game. Just make it consistent. Don't call the game differently in different quarters of the game, and don't let one team hack away while you blast the other for phantom touches.

This smells more like David Stern than anything else that has happened since he left.

 

[95pro]

They probably saw game 1 ratings and $$$ lit up in their eyes.

 

[95pro]

I'm also not sure what Curry's wife is crying about as well, you couldn't even breathe on Curry all year. Now the playoffs come around where defense and play gets more physical...

 

[Russ Smith]

with all the blowouts, an interesting note. After 6 games Cleveland has 610 points, the Warriors have... 610 points. First time in history it's even after 6 games.

 

[Russ Smith]

Lues comments didn't have any effect lol. What games are you watching man since his comments they haven't lost due to them getting incredibly physical with minimal fouls being called.

They're not getting more foul calls is my point. Lue complained about leBron getting no calls, since then he's had 8 FTA's in each game, it's not like he's shooting 15-20 FT's a game.

 

[Russ Smith]

I'm also not sure what Curry's wife is crying about as well, you couldn't even breathe on Curry all year. Now the playoffs come around where defense and play gets more physical...

She was more upset about what happened before the game if you've not heard the story.

Apparently the Cavs security people kept the players families on the bus far longer than is normal, nearly an hour longer to be exact. They said it was to protect them so they could be properly escorted in. Some are claiming it's because Jay Z and Beyonce showed up and they needed tons of extra security for them and it created a huge backup that delayed the bus with the families on it.

But the other thing is Curry's father in law, the wifes dad, was nearly arrested because the stadium police accused him of having fake credentials. The wife called it a case of "racial profiling" and was furious.

But she shouldn't have said what she said, she's not helping Steph at all.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Lues comments didn't have any effect lol. What games are you watching man since his comments they haven't lost due to them getting incredibly physical with minimal fouls being called.

You really think NBA refs care about anything Lue says? I don't think even players listen to him, much less the refs.

 

[nashman]

Not just Lue, Lebron talking about green and physical play, no fines by the way for the king, just suspend green for a game and allow the hackathon to continue on Curry and Clay and presto the Cavs are back in it lol. Whatever if you guys think it's being called fairly not sure what games your watching, just keep your eyes on Curry for a few straight possessions the guy is on the floor getting knocked around and held all day and not getting calls its crazy! You can't brush Lebrons freaking jersey or he gets an and 1 but you can knock Curry around all day and nothing.