NBA Finals Cleveland vs Golden State

[nashman]

Lol 82cards it's very easy to hate on the refs in the NBA where they have a very direct ability to alter games outcome. It is incredible that a team goes al season without losing back to back games and then loses 3 straight to the Cavs huh? Incredibly convenient to Lebron... That is all.

 

[Covert Rain]

Lol 82cards it's very hard to make up hating on the refs in the NBA where they have a very little impact to alter games outcome. It is not that incredible that a team goes all season without losing back to back games and then loses 3 straight to the Cavs because they had mental breakdowns. Incredible choke job with bad defense, bad shot selection, bad turnovers and timely missed wide open shots.

FTFY.

 

[nashman]

Very classy covert way to have a valid opinion, better to just be a jerk I guess. You can disagree without the nonsense above.

 

[Mainstreet]

Nashman, it's better to let it go and concentrate on the draft, trades and free agency.

The Warriors beat the Cavaliers in the Championship last season and no one is taking that away.

 

[Covert Rain]

Very classy covert way to have a valid opinion, better to just be a jerk I guess. You can disagree without the nonsense above.

Jerk? You are actually reading your own posts where you have repeated yourself over and over while ignoring what everybody is saying right?

At least I was somewhat joking like every else does when they use FTFY like posts.

 

[TJ]

Steph Curry's ugly shoes hit the internet by storm and they go winless since. Just sayin'

This is a more valid argument than saying the refs rigged the series.

Curry's "Psych Ward Orderly 6s" were just too much of an off-court distraction for the MVP to overcome.

 

[Dude]

Lol 82cards it's very easy to hate on the refs in the NBA where they have a very direct ability to alter games outcome. It is incredible that a team goes al season without losing back to back games and then loses 3 straight to the Cavs huh? Incredibly convenient to Lebron... That is all.

Did they not lose back to back to OKC? and then again to Cleveland plus one more. I will say it again. They slumped at the end going 7 and 7. Keep ignoring it and crying. They tanked on their own. Everyone but you and maybe a few more with tin foil wrapped around their heads can see it.

 

[Covert Rain]

Did they not lose back to back to OKC? and then again to Cleveland plus one more. I will say it again. They slumped at the end going 7 and 7. Keep ignoring it and crying. They tanked on their own. Everyone but you and maybe a few more with tin foil wrapped around their heads see it.

But....but...the refs.

 

[nashman]

Taking everyone's best shot trying to not let them beat the 72 games mark had a lot to do with the 500 finish. But hey Dude like I said see it how you want and nobody is crying ******** just calling how I see it! You don't like it tough many have seen the same things but just ignore that and keep making your whole they finished the season poorly. Don't mention they fought thru much tougher opponents than Cleveland to even get to the finals, just they finished the season playing not their best lol. Dumb argument I'm not making stuff up if you watch the games the Cavs got away with tons of rough play and won its not fiction it's what happened. The Spurs have made a living off of it so I guess the NBA is back to the old two different seasons officiating.

 

[Covert Rain]

The post above is all over the place. All I got is refs refs refs it's how I see it no matter what you all say.

 

[Dude]

But....but...the refs.

Taking everyone's best shot trying to not let them beat the 72 games mark had a lot to do with the 500 finish. But hey Dude like I said see it how you want and nobody is crying ******** just calling how I see it! You don't like it tough many have seen the same things but just ignore that and keep making your whole they finished the season poorly. Don't mention they fought thru much tougher opponents than Cleveland to even get to the finals, just they finished the season playing not their best lol. Dumb argument I'm not making stuff up if you watch the games the Cavs got away with tons of rough play and won its not fiction it's what happened. The Spurs have made a living off of it so I guess the NBA is back to the old two different seasons officiating.

********?

Who the hell cares or what difference does it make what they did before playing 500 ball. A great team can and does get beat and they did. The better team the last 14 games was not GS and that's all that matters. It wasn't the refs or thug ball. As to the many you speak of I'm not seeing it here or on TV. You must watch an imaginary sports channel for cry baby's.

 

[Dude]

The post above is all over the place. All I got is refs refs refs it's how I see it no matter what you all say.

The guy has lost it and should just let it go.

 

[Covert Rain]

The guy has lost it and should just let it go.

So moving on from the silliness about the refs, it's pretty damn scary if GSW next season get any of the players they are targeting. Kevin Durant? Al Horford? If they target Durant they would move Barnes. How freaking scary would that team be? If they get Horford they would have to move Bogut. Then there is a rumor they would target Dwight Howard which means letting Ezeli walk but being able to keep Barnes.

It all sounds like crazy stuff but GSW would even get scarier. Evidently, they know they were out muscled and to finesse of a team and are looking to add some strength to the team.

 

[Dude]

So moving on from the silliness about the refs, it's pretty damn scary if GSW next season get any of the players they are targeting. Kevin Durant? Al Horford? If they target Durant they would move Barnes. How freaking scary would that team be? If they get Horford they would have to move Bogut. Then there is a rumor they would target Dwight Howard which means letting Ezeli walk but being able to keep Barnes.

It all sounds like crazy stuff but GSW would even get scarier. Evidently, they know they were out muscled and to finesse of a team and are looking to add some strength to the team.

That is one bad team. It took LB doing what has never been done before and them running out of steam and they still almost had it. If any of that happens or if it just stays the same the will and should be favored again.

 

[mojorizen7]

@JCSunsfan @Carolinacacti
Cavs in 7
We were the only three who nailed it.

 

[Russ Smith]

Without question Russ Kerry's lineups were strange in this game. He was I think fighting a losing battle trying to get the team performance they needed to win and guys didn't step up. As I said earlier this game was the most fairly called out of the last 3 and they lost it is what it is. I did not say they got screwed in this game but rather games that led to even being a game 7.

I think Kerr outsmarted himself. He thought he had to play big here and there or the offensive boards would kill them. the problem is he didn't pay attention to hwo the game actually went. the only big who played well was Speights and he barely played. Ezeli was very ineffective in the series, didn't rebound, didn't block shots, didn't score, there was no logic to playing him there. Just stick with the small lineup and if you actually do start to get killed on teh boards, bring a big in. What makes it really odd is most Warriors fans expect Ezeli to be gone for the exact reason he shouldn't have been in the game,he's not good enough and they will keep Speights and move on Ezeli rather than overpay to keep him. But in that moment, the coach who is quite willing to let him go, inexplicably trusted him and got burned.

 

[Russ Smith]

So moving on from the silliness about the refs, it's pretty damn scary if GSW next season get any of the players they are targeting. Kevin Durant? Al Horford? If they target Durant they would move Barnes. How freaking scary would that team be? If they get Horford they would have to move Bogut. Then there is a rumor they would target Dwight Howard which means letting Ezeli walk but being able to keep Barnes.

It all sounds like crazy stuff but GSW would even get scarier. Evidently, they know they were out muscled and to finesse of a team and are looking to add some strength to the team.

Howard makes no sense he's the exact opposite of what got the Warriors this far. He does block shots and run the floor and maybe he'd be fine without them running plays for him but I think he'd be a terrible fit.

Horford can shoot but he's gotten away from what he did that made him good.

Durant a great scorer not sure how he fits but would sure be interesting. I've seen rumors they might try to get Trevor Ariza which I think would be an upgrade from Barnes, better defender, tougher player. I'd love to see them get Afflalo as a backup guard who can defend and is tough but he's probably too expensive.

They have some questions how long is Iggy going to hold up that's 2 years in a row with back issues. Livingston wore down because he played so much in the Portland series with Steph hurt. And of course the big question is how injured is Steph, all sorts of rumors he needs both knee and shoulder surgery and so far the only thing he's admitted to is his elbow has bothered him ever since that hard foul into the stands where he had that welt on the elbow. he's claiming he's not due for any surgeries but will be interesting to watch.

 

[Covert Rain]

Howard makes no sense he's the exact opposite of what got the Warriors this far. He does block shots and run the floor and maybe he'd be fine without them running plays for him but I think he'd be a terrible fit.

Horford can shoot but he's gotten away from what he did that made him good.

Durant a great scorer not sure how he fits but would sure be interesting. I've seen rumors they might try to get Trevor Ariza which I think would be an upgrade from Barnes, better defender, tougher player. I'd love to see them get Afflalo as a backup guard who can defend and is tough but he's probably too expensive.

They have some questions how long is Iggy going to hold up that's 2 years in a row with back issues. Livingston wore down because he played so much in the Portland series with Steph hurt. And of course the big question is how injured is Steph, all sorts of rumors he needs both knee and shoulder surgery and so far the only thing he's admitted to is his elbow has bothered him ever since that hard foul into the stands where he had that welt on the elbow. he's claiming he's not due for any surgeries but will be interesting to watch.

I agree about Howard. I think he slows them down to much and would fundamentally change their offense when he is on the floor. Ariza is interesting. It's definitely going to be interesting if the rumors are true they feel they need to get tougher.

 

[JCSunsfan]

@JCSunsfan @Carolinacacti
Cavs in 7
We were the only three who nailed it.

What do we win!!!

 

[sunsfan88]

Any debate about whether Bledsoe is better than Kyrie should be laid to rest.

That game winning 3 he hit with Steph's hand in his face was absolutely ridiculous. Reminded me of Kobe with some of jaw dropping shots he's hit. I don't think Bledsoe can dream of ever hitting shots like that on such a big stage.

No doubt that he's a scoring guard but damn he can do that at a very high level.

 

[sunsfan88]

https://mobile.twitter.com/dmansworld474/status/744730972533334016?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

K-Love making the impossible possible...

I was telling my friend just yesterday how this was probably the most underrated play of the NBA finals. I don't think Love, who is a very unathletic player, is getting enough credit for having stuck with Steph on this play despite the ball handling exhibition by Steph. Love isn't a good defender but he came through clutch for them on this play.

 

[sunsfan88]

kerr is a moron why did he start Ezeli? he's single handledly tied the game up for Cleveland

You aren't the only one, I see many Warriors fans starting to slowly turn on Kerr and wondering if it was maybe best to keep Walton over him.

I think its foolish because imo Kerr has done a wonderful job with that team.

However, it can't be easy losing your two lead assistants in back to back years in Gentry and Walton.

 

[Russ Smith]

You aren't the only one, I see many Warriors fans starting to slowly turn on Kerr and wondering if it was maybe best to keep Walton over him.

I think its foolish because imo Kerr has done a wonderful job with that team.

However, it can't be easy losing your two lead assistants in back to back years in Gentry and Walton.

Moron is obviously too strong a word but he got completely outcoached by Lue. Among many things he had 2 timeouts left when the game ended. I could even live with starting Ezeli if he learned from the mistake and didn't play him again in the 2nd half but he doubled and tripled down on that.

I started reading Warriorsworld again recently hadn't posted there since like 2005 I think. I asked that same question there and about 25 people so far have said scroll back to during the game we were all making the same comment what is Kerr thinking playing Ezeli so much. the conventional thinking is the Warriors will let Ezeli walk, wants more money than he's worth, so he literally played a guy the team fully intends to let go in such a critical part of game 7.

I guess if it works he's a genius. For example I thought Lue was nuts sitting Kyrie mid 4th but it worked perfectly he came back in and hit some big shots. And of course part of the why is Lue took a timeout to rest his team.

I don't know who's better the team was totally healthy when Walton was coaching it, kerr had to deal with injuries during the season to Curry, Iggy, Bogut, Ezeli etc, adn then again in the playoffs where Walton had a healthy roster. But the team had a better win % and seemed better under Walton. Just seemed like he had a better feel for calling timeouts Kerr is a firm believer in let your guys play through it and figure it out. Huge upgrade over Mark Jackson but I can't help but fell his use of Ezeli and Varejao literally cost him his 2nd title.

 

[Russ Smith]

So moving on from the silliness about the refs, it's pretty damn scary if GSW next season get any of the players they are targeting. Kevin Durant? Al Horford? If they target Durant they would move Barnes. How freaking scary would that team be? If they get Horford they would have to move Bogut. Then there is a rumor they would target Dwight Howard which means letting Ezeli walk but being able to keep Barnes.

It all sounds like crazy stuff but GSW would even get scarier. Evidently, they know they were out muscled and to finesse of a team and are looking to add some strength to the team.

So some of the hot Bay Area rumors now do indeed include Dwight Howard. I'd be surprised, back in 2013 they went after him and didn't get him but I found a quote from Kerr, then an announcer, he wasn't exactly gushing about him at the time.

"He’s an All-Star, a great player, but I don’t think he’s a superstar at this stage of his career. Even though it feels like Houston hit a home run and the Lakers struck out, I wouldn’t count on it. Dwight’s a physical specimen and an incredible presence defensively, but it’s tough to run your offense through him. He’s not a good passer, and you can’t rely on him to get baskets down the stretch against a really good defense."

They also of course are expected to go after Durant if he's out there. And there are strong rumors they are intrigued by Dirk Nowitzki they think he can play both the 4 and the 5 in their system because he shoots it so well. Obviously not as good as he once was but would be a nice fit for the Warriors offense short term.

 

[Russ Smith]

I swear this isn't me writing under an assumed name (-:

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/...eli-why-varejao-golden-state-cleveland-062016