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Enough of you BA.

No FG on 4th down?? Stupid

Your elderly QB is being harassed by a 3 man rush all night! Almost no screens/draws or quick slants???

Your Pro Bowl LT is at RT still????? Why????

Idiot.

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I'm sure some folks will try to argue against it but there's no excuse not to kick it on 4th down. You're guaranteeing points and an onside attempt.
 

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Enough of you BA.

No FG on 4th down?? Stupid

Your elderly QB is being harassed by a 3 man rush all night! Almost no screens/draws or quick slants???

Your Pro Bowl LT is at RT still????? Why????

Idiot.

**Self-BIM

*Biscuit

I just wanted a hard count or two. :soapbox:
 

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If Veldheer was at LT, Carson might be dead right now. At least he can see the guy coming from the right side and assume defensive posture to prepare for the inevitable hit.
 

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Valdeher looked like an older version of De Anthony Baptista after these 3 games
 

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He should have kicked it right after they sacked Palmer, I think there was about a minute left. Just kick the FG to get within a TD and leave yourself time if you can get an onside kick. Plus at that point they were just teeing off on Palmer so give him a break and kick it
 

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The game didn't end with 5 min to go? I had conveniently turned it off right then.
 

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He should have kicked it right after they sacked Palmer, I think there was about a minute left. Just kick the FG to get within a TD and leave yourself time if you can get an onside kick. Plus at that point they were just teeing off on Palmer so give him a break and kick it

Dawson isn't reliable from there. They should've kicked it on first down before the sack or on 4th down inside the five. If you're that close to the end zone you might as well give it 3 tries but kick on 4th.
 

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I'm sure some folks will try to argue against it but there's no excuse not to kick it on 4th down. You're guaranteeing points and an onside attempt.
Yep! At least give your team a chance to tie & keep fighting
 

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I'm not much of a BA fan these days, but I agree with going for it. We're down 11. we don't know if we are going to get the 2 point conversion after the TD, whenever we get it. If you get the TD first, and don't get the 2, you know that you need a second TD, not a FG. It was 4th and goal at the 3! You gotta be able to make something, that's basically the distance of a 2 point try.

Gruden wanted to kick the FG with a minute and a half, that's plain dumb. You only kick the FG if there is just a little time like 20 seconds and you are going to have to go Hail Mary.
 

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I'm not much of a BA fan these days, but I agree with going for it. We're down 11. we don't know if we are going to get the 2 point conversion after the TD, whenever we get it. If you get the TD first, and don't get the 2, you know that you need a second TD, not a FG. It was 4th and goal at the 3! You gotta be able to make something, that's basically the distance of a 2 point try.

Gruden wanted to kick the FG with a minute and a half, that's plain dumb. You only kick the FG if there is just a little time like 20 seconds and you are going to have to go Hail Mary.

I say go for it too. The 2 yard pass to Fitz the play before was a poor decision, You have to take your shots at the end zone and not let the clock run.
 

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I say go for it too. The 2 yard pass to Fitz the play before was a poor decision, You have to take your shots at the end zone and not let the clock run.

Disagree. Chip shot and you have a chance. Incomplete pass and it's over.

Simple odds and stragedy ignored by BA. I have a feeling he was frustrated and emotion got the best of him.
 

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Disagree. Chip shot and you have a chance. Incomplete pass and it's over.

Simple odds and stragedy ignored by BA. I have a feeling he was frustrated and emotion got the best of him.
I agree but is any FG a chip shot for this franchise? Lol. It's soooo ridiculous it's funny how we continue to suck at finding a kicker:bang:

That could've been a factor even though I'm on your side
 

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Disagree. Chip shot and you have a chance. Incomplete pass and it's over.

Simple odds and stragedy ignored by BA. I have a feeling he was frustrated and emotion got the best of him.

There is 1:00 left and no timeouts. When you are 2 yards from the end zone you go for it, because it would be very difficult to score a TD with under 1 minute if you get the on-side kick.

If there is close to 1: 40 - 2:00 minutes left, then your argument is legit.
 

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There is 1:00 left and no timeouts. When you are 2 yards from the end zone you go for it, because it would be very difficult to score a TD with under 1 minute if you get the on-side kick.

If there is close to 1: 40 - 2:00 minutes left, then your argument is legit.

They went for it three times from down there and failed. Even though Dawson is unreliable he makes that 99/100 times. You have to extend the game.
 

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I agree but is any FG a chip shot for this franchise? Lol. It's soooo ridiculous it's funny how we continue to suck at finding a kicker:bang:

That could've been a factor even though I'm on your side

If Dawson makes that FG it might be a different game at 10-0. It gave Dallas a boost. He's missed a FG in every game so far.
 

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I'm not much of a BA fan these days, but I agree with going for it. We're down 11. we don't know if we are going to get the 2 point conversion after the TD, whenever we get it. If you get the TD first, and don't get the 2, you know that you need a second TD, not a FG. It was 4th and goal at the 3! You gotta be able to make something, that's basically the distance of a 2 point try.

Gruden wanted to kick the FG with a minute and a half, that's plain dumb. You only kick the FG if there is just a little time like 20 seconds and you are going to have to go Hail Mary.

I agree with the going for the TD as well, you might as well. I was yelling at "Chucky" for saying to kick the FG early. If you get the TD and don't make the 2 the game is still alive and you know what you need. Also if you get the TD and the 2 now you only need a FG to tie, easier to get if you recover the kick. I don't think there is a wrong way to go here, I can see merit in both sides. It just didn't work.
 

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Yeah i dont know about the "just kick it" stuff when Dawson has proven he misses kicks.
 

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The whole season started as a risk.

Now it is falling flat. I cannot think of one thing the Cardinals needed to happen to be successful this year that has come to fruition.

Not one.
 

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