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I've got a question for all the "Wiz did nothing...it was all Haley and Warner" people. Does Haley utterly failing in both KC as a HC and in Pittsburg as an OC and Wiz calling plays for an out of nowhere resurgent Chargers offense do anything to mitigate that stance? And before you say "It's not Wiz's playbook, he's just running the HC's offense, how come that argument never held water when people said the same thing about Haley running Wiz's playbook?

I'm glad Wiz is gone...the team needed a change badly, but I think there's still a lot of people here who don't give the guy the credit he deserves. He took this team to the Super Bowl...the Cardinals...TO THE SUPER BOWL. And won a playoff game the next year. That's beyond words ridiculous for this franchise.

Fully agree and at some point maybe the bashers will quit bashing constantly while posting about this years team.

I actually heard a panel discussion and one of them shared his discussion with players from the Chargers. I got the impression that they kept a decent amount of Turners Offense but loved the changes that Whiz had made. McCoy? got a mention but Whiz's name came up several times.

I came away with the impression that it is Whiz's Offense and he is very much in charge of it.

I love what Kurt did for the Cards-- but Warner can be a bit self serving in some of his after the fact analysis of his time in Arizona. During the Whis years he was also outspoken in his preference to put it on him-- let him make decisions and distribute.

I don't think you get to the SB on the back of just one guy-- it was the combination of many contributions.

Whis was a good coach-- he succumbed to what many good coaches succumb to when given far too much personnel input. His chief failing was the belief that he could get career 50% completion QBs over 65% - with a sketchy o line and no running game.

Agreed.
 

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I've got a question for all the "Wiz did nothing...it was all Haley and Warner" people. Does Haley utterly failing in both KC as a HC and in Pittsburg as an OC and Wiz calling plays for an out of nowhere resurgent Chargers offense do anything to mitigate that stance? And before you say "It's not Wiz's playbook, he's just running the HC's offense, how come that argument never held water when people said the same thing about Haley running Wiz's playbook?

I'm glad Wiz is gone...the team needed a change badly, but I think there's still a lot of people here who don't give the guy the credit he deserves. He took this team to the Super Bowl...the Cardinals...TO THE SUPER BOWL. And won a playoff game the next year. That's beyond words ridiculous for this franchise.

Chargers 7th in Points per game this year.
8th in yards per game.
4th in first downs per game.
2nd in 3rd down conversions to first down.
Only 6 sacks allowed, good for 3rd best.
Completion % at 73.9%, 2nd best behind Broncos.

Steelers 27 in points per game.
18th in yards per game.
15th in first downs per game.
20th in 3rd down conversions to first down.
15 sacks allowed, puts them at 30th.
Completion % at 63.6%, 13th place.

I do believe if a poll was taken the Big Ben would be considered the better QB over Rivers. Amazing how Whiz has gotten Rivers to play at an elite level again.
 

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