No PJ BROWN: What's Your Backup Plan?

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Azirish Stop Acting Like You Know Everything Your Not A True Suns Fan Just Like Ryanb Isnt A True Baseball Fan Of The Dbacks. Your Statments Make No Sense So Stop Acting Like You Know Everything About Basketball. Their Are A Ton Of Smarter People Out Their Who Know A Lot More Then You Azirish
 

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George,
My reaction to Banks last year was that he kept trying to "beat his man" rather than play within the offense. The result was that he was taking contested jump shots, rather than pass and wait to shoot when he's already open. One on one skills are great when time is running out, but until then, it is better to find the open man.

My reaction to these statements are that you didn't watch the Suns play much - in other years you have you admitted you didn't see many games, so is that still true?

Banks rarely shot anything resembling a contested jump shot - his 'one-on-one' play consists of driving to the basket. At the start of the year he was taking jumpers from the perimeter about like the rest of outside shooters on the team do and as the season wore on he became more and more reluctant to shoot, even when he was wide open. The problem was that he couldn't hit squat when he was open - whether he shot in rhythm or was hesitant.

Your notion that he didn't pass the ball to the open man is not borne out by the team stats. Raja got assists at the rate of 2.6/40 min, Shawn 1.7, Jr 1.3 - by way of swinging the ball to the open man. Banks had 4.7/40 (Barbs 4.8/40 & Diaw 6.1/40) so he was not the weak link you portray.

Admittedly not good PG numbers as the league average for points is 6.4/40, but then that isn't the question.
 

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My impression of Banks was made early. Last November he hit only 20 of 59 from the field, He shot better in Dec at 9 of 19 but fell below 40% from the field in Jan. His best month was Feb when he shot 32 or 63, but only 5 of 14 in March.

If anything, my impression of Banks taking a lot of outside shots is mostly due to remembering him missing them. Checking his hotzone numbers, he made 44 of 77 layups, but only 40 of 116 outside shots including 1 of 8 shorts and 5 of 29 for three. Since his Nov stats were pretty poor, that must have left a stronger impression than I realized.

I'm not quite sure why statements that being with "my impression" are considered proof that I think I know it all. I change my views all the time when people give me evidence that another perspective is more accurate. Doesn't everybody?
 

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Banks lacks a feel for the game. It is obvious to anyone who knows the game. It isn't something teachable (at least not at this stage of the game). He is a mechanical albeit gifted physical athlete. He is not a PG that is going to make anyone around him a better player. End of story.

The Suns know it, hope to showcase him and/or include his contract with something else to unload him. Humphries can not make him a point guard.
 

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Banks lacks a feel for the game. It is obvious to anyone who knows the game. It isn't something teachable (at least not at this stage of the game). He is a mechanical albeit gifted physical athlete. He is not a PG that is going to make anyone around him a better player. End of story.

The Suns know it, hope to showcase him and/or include his contract with something else to unload him. Humphries can not make him a point guard.

Mostly I agree. I have no hope Banks can become a replacement for Nash. However, I think he can get a bit better at playing within the scheme and hopefully be useful.
 

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Given that Nash probably only has a few years left to "mentor" a replacement re. the Phoenix system wouldn't it be nice to get someone in that can develop into a replacement? Maybe the Atlanta pick will generate something though the Suns startling lack of size may necessitate going for the best available big man. There are a few back-up PGs that would be a good fit (Steve Blake, Jose Calderon, etc.). At this point, the focus is obviously on the front court. Maybe next year.
 

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I have a feeling this system won't last after Nash is gone, nor will D'Antoni.
 

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Just read an article from DIME Magazine regarding the surplus of bodies the T-Wolves have after the KG trade and read something very appealing. They are predicting that PF Chris Richard won't make the final roster.

If I'm not mistaken he was a key reserve for he Gators last year and has size at 6'9, 250 I believe. I would add him to the list of Skinner, Roberts, Simien & Ely given Brown doesn't sign with us.

As for PG, there really isn't anyone out there now that would be an upgrade to Banks barring a trade so LB will have to do.
 

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I had Richard slotted as somebody to take at #59, but he is very limited. His summer numbers were not terribly impressive: 4.8 rpg in 15.8 minutes and just 3.5 ppg.
 

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4.8 rpg in 15.8 minutes and just 3.5 ppg.

The rebounding is quite good... .3+ per minute. If he could do that in the regular season I'd be impressed.
 

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I had Richard slotted as somebody to take at #59, but he is very limited. His summer numbers were not terribly impressive: 4.8 rpg in 15.8 minutes and just 3.5 ppg.

Those numbers don't blow you away, but they certainly are not discouraging. That's just under 10 rebounds in a little bit more than 30 minutes. I wouldn't mind Richards at the end of the bench with the hope that he might surprise. He has great size.

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There's a pic circulating with the five Gators in their NBA jerseys. Richards, whose energy and power I liked at Florida, looks like he's hiding a few small children under his jersey. Then again, maybe Boris could mentor him and his off-season training regimen.
 

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Those numbers don't blow you away, but they certainly are not discouraging. That's just under 10 rebounds in a little bit more than 30 minutes. I wouldn't mind Richards at the end of the bench with the hope that he might surprise. He has great size.

Joe

It's an issue of context. This is the summer league and ranked 157th in minutes played. He did not play much in part because in two of his four games he had 4 fouls in under 20 minutes.
 
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